2017 GDP figures are out! Celebration!

China officially reached 12 trillion!
Brazil has overtaken Italy
India has overtaken France
America and China grew relatively the same

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cnbc.com/2017/06/28/chinas-debt-surpasses-300-percent-of-gdp-iif-says-raising-doubts-over-yellens-crisis-remarks.html
uk.businessinsider.com/imf-report-china-debt-risk-global-financial-system-2017-12
foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/21/nobody-knows-anything-about-china/
bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43406560
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth#Ming_China
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Our GDP has not shrunk.

>I believe in China's GDP numbers

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>Russia still in a cuck position

Another tough year ahead for us Russiaboos.

I wish we didn't have terroni
Congrats Brazil

Somebody stop Brazil now, i'm scared

h-hey indian commonwealth bros

Stop with the conspiracy theories. China is successful.

These have been out since October 2017 though. You meant official figures? I am suspcious of them being official because some nations have not released Q4 2017 GDP figures yet.

>Israel
>$350 billion

So they get between 3 and 5 billion in American handouts every year.

Where is the remaining $345 billion coming from?

american companies like intel etc.

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Israel's economy is pretty good.

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So American companies also give free money to Israel? How do Americans feel about that?

They have a very dynamic startup-oriented capital venture market. Tel Aviv (and Jerusalem to a lesser extent) are heaven for startups

>it’s all fake!

You do get that third world GDP is almost always undercounted, right? All that shady informal work is not accounted for.

There is a reason, on average, prices are much lower in the third world.

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>believing numbers from the Chinese politburo

Brazil was $3.2 trillion in 2011

So will Japan's GDP continue to shrink every year as their population contracts?

>2 places up
neat

They don't give free money, they give job opportunies for political reasons. They could perfectly moe those jobs elseweres.

See

got a comparison for PPP GDP figures?

do first world countries account for under-the-table economic activity in their counting?

We love it.

All American banks donate a 1% of usury profit tithe to Israel annually.

Also when your biggest export is blood diamons, it's pretty fucked up.

The israeli diamond industry is far from being "moral"

Where is Finland??

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It's part of the plan to de industrialize the west and its allies. The Japanese economic miracle got them too strong too soon and spooked the globalists out so their wealth is now being transferred to the chicoms

We account for them much more often.

How many stay-at-home wives do you think exist in the First World relative to the Third World?

The much higher supply of these informal services in the third world explain why their prices are much lower for no good reason (in a GDP sense).

Japan's population contraction is due to low birth rate and negligible immigration though, so i'm not sure what you mean.

Why it's just a natural recource. They are pretty good at other fields.

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>our nominal GDP is only $56.933 billion
>mfw DR Congo has a GDP of $40.415 billion, even though they have 35 times the population of Slovenia

44. place

A country of 1b people overtook a country of 40m people, breathtaking

All the diamond industry world wide is based on exploitation and shady stuffs.

Of course you don't dumbass.

Hello Ahmed! Did you push any French women out of your window today?

>25% diamonds

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Someone take a shit in your cheerios this morning or something?

for the lower countries

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>t. Shlomo Bergenstein


Why would a "dane" come out of nowhere to suck israeli cock like a JIDF shill and get this triggered?

>2% blood
Wtf

>Politburo

Nah their National Bureau of Economic Statistics. And each year the IMF helps them formulate the GDP statistics and calculate them using international best standards.

stlouisfed.org/publications/regional-economist/second-quarter-2017/chinas-economic-data-an-accurate-reflection-or-just-smoke-and-mirrors
>Former Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke and research analyst Peter Olson have argued that the Chinese NBS’ lack of transparency may be more of a factor in the unreliability of the statistics than its lack of political independence.4 For example, the NBS produces data series that are less volatile than those from other countries, making China’s time series statistics seem unreliable or manipulated. Bernanke and Olson have pointed out that this smoothness is more likely a result of technical issues rather than political manipulation.

>The degree of unreliability of China’s official statistics may be less egregious if the country is compared with other developing countries. The World Bank, which classifies China as a middle-income country, ranks low- and middle-income countries with populations greater than 1 million by a statistical capacity score, reflecting the country’s ability to produce and disseminate high-quality aggregate data.

>In the past, China’s score has been at or below the median (38th percentile of low- and middle-income countries scored in 2004. However, in the 2016 rankings, China earned a score of 83.3 out of 100, putting it in the 83rd percentile.

>This score means China is actually on the upper end of the distribution for statistical capacity compared with similar countries. China’s score improvement comes mostly from better methodology, improving timeliness and periodicity of data releases, and joining the International Monetary Fund’s Special Data Dissemination Standard, a voluntary program that evaluates a country on criteria important for international capital markets.

25% of their economy is in diamonds that can already be synthesized in a lab with higher quality, clarity, and size.

I think it's just because Japan has had absolutely retarded monetary policy for the last 30 years. their debt is insanely high so they refuse to deflate.

how are you accounting housewives into this? like homecrafts? I meant more like bartering, businesses taking cash and not reporting it, paying employees under the table etc.

I wonder how much of that is due to Chinese investment in mining there.

1.4 billion to 66 million*

Compared to their neighbors its pretty good. Israli economy is a miracle

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>their National Bureau of Economic Statistics
>each year the IMF helps them formulate the GDP statistics
Literally proving my point. You must be easy to satisfy. I have a bridge you might be interested in buying...

2.6 actually

>bomb them to rubbles for no reason
>"haha you suck lol"

It is impressive what they've done from such a difficult position.

>muslim hands typed this post

That's a decent economy, but yeah the non-oil arab states are behind israel.

You're part of the coalition and participate in everything we do you rat

That as well. I simply am using the best example.

In an economy supply = GDP. (Or demand = GDP).

But because third world housewives and informal trading (or illegal) is not accounted for, you have unexplained cheaper prices relative to the first world. Meanwhile in the USA we are much more likely to have the statistical accounting necessary to input these informal economic transactions (and the supply they represent). Third world shitholes cannot even balance their books, so why do you expect them to have a perfect statistical representation of the entire economy?

If anything, China and India (and many others) undercount their GDP. That is why you can buy stuff so much cheaper out there despite international trade fixing that arbitrage difference.

What part of The Most Presitigous Western Economic Organization Fact Checking Your GDP To Help You Get It Right do you not understand?

I honestly don’t give a fuck if you want to bury your head in the sand. It has no effect on China.

>The Most Presitigous Western Economic Organization
Kek. Morons like you are why evil exists.

>I honestly don’t give a fuck if you want to bury your head in the sand. It has no effect on China.

Lol man, I sure see you post this stuff alot for someone who doesn't care what other people think

what happened to Nigeria? the drop on oil prices?

>Argentina's gdp grew 16.9% in one year
yeah, something doesn't add up

>current prices
Yeah, list discarded

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why are people saying the eu is dying when we grew with more than usa and china?

Eu 900.498
Usa 821.500
China 796.329

I think people were expecting it to fall apart due to Brexit. This is the EU's fastest growth rate in ten years.

I do expect the exit of the UK to have a negative effect on the EU's rate of growth for a few years though.

Poland behind Sweden once again? It's like a second deluge for them.

The International Monetary Fund is evil for your Jow Forumsmutt mind.

I care for what rational people think. Not a Jow Forumsmutt who wastes my time and calls me names.

Because >muh ebil EU is a good scapegoat
Can't wait to overtake the Americans

>RUSSIA
JUST

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Yeah that confused me to no end because the peso fell 30% last year. Maybe they had discounted Argentina’s old GDP numbers as fake, but that wouldn’t explain such a huge jump in one year.

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>what is real GDP growth
Learn what deflator is, brainlet. OP's pic is nominal figures.

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>for no reason

holy shit india is only 2.8 tn?
you only have two years left buddy, how gonna pull it off?

We were one of the strongest opponent of Israel in 2006, back when our president was worthy of being called a french president.

wh*Tes BTFO. China century now!!!!

I assume you are angry at Obama for not starting a war with Iran when they intercepted your boat in 2016 in their waters then.
Surely you wouldn't have double-standard.

IMF believes for some reason.

Hey Ausfalia how's life ALLLLLLL the way down there?

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unlike the US, Russia has a balanced budget and low debt. and iirc China has no debt and a balanced budget. and lower prices aren't "unexplained" it's because the population is less wealthy, so sellers can't get away with charging such high prices.

I meant compared to last year

good goy

If you want year to year comparison, then you look at real GDP growth.
imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDP_RPCH@WEO/RUS

Russia grew 1.5%.

>China has no debt
Wrong. Chinese government debt is low, yes. But private debt is pretty bad.
cnbc.com/2017/06/28/chinas-debt-surpasses-300-percent-of-gdp-iif-says-raising-doubts-over-yellens-crisis-remarks.html
uk.businessinsider.com/imf-report-china-debt-risk-global-financial-system-2017-12

looks like Ukraine had a good year. any idea why that is?

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>Hezbollah attacks Israel first

REEE SCHLOMO WHY ARE YOU BOMBING US?!

holy shit China. and that's from 4 years ago. I'm going to bet that it isn't any better now. not sure why I thought Chinese debt was so low. was probably confusing it with how much American debt that China owes, versus Chinese debt that America owes.

It's easier to grow from such low levels. Remember, Ukraine fell 6.6%, 9.8% in 2014 and 2015. Also the way percentage works, if you fell 10% you'll have to grow more than 10% to get back at the same level.

we will soon be richer than Sweden. Also 99% white. Feels good

I'm amazed that Sweden is still so rich.

>holy shit China. and that's from 4 years ago.
Here from last year, it's higher than in 2014 >In addition, our estimates based on monthly data on total social financing suggest that China's total debt surpassed 304 percent of GDP as of May 2017," the IIF noted.

>not sure why I thought Chinese debt was so low.
People only look at the government debt. This is wrong. Government is not the whole economy.

>a nation of 40 million will soon be as rich as one with 10 million
about time

china needs to pay denbts

We I'll be dammed

>trusting Chinese numbers

The truth about Chinese IQ and intelligence.

>We don’t know how good Chinese schools really are because the much-quoted statistics provided by the Program for International Student Assessment (PISA) that placed China first in the world were taken from the study of a small group of elite Shanghai schools. As soon as that was expanded merely to Beijing — another metropolis — and two rich provinces, the results dropped sharply. (PISA’s willingness to accept only this limited sample is typical of the gullibility and compliance of many foreign NGOs, especially in education, when dealing with China; I have seen numerous foreign educators fall victim to obvious Potemkinism, including believing that Beijing No. 4 High School — the rough equivalent of Eton — was a “typical Chinese public school.”) We don’t know the extent of the collapse of rural education. We don’t know the real literacy figures, not least because rural and urban literacy is measured by different standards — a common trick for many figures.

foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/21/nobody-knows-anything-about-china/

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>trusting China about anything

Have you heard about China's 'four new inventions'?

bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43406560

>In the 17th century, the idea of a spherical Earth, now considerably advanced by Western astronomy, ultimately spread to Ming China, when Jesuit missionaries, who held high positions as astronomers at the imperial court, successfully challenged the Chinese belief that the Earth was flat and square.[79][80][81]

>The adoption of European astronomy, facilitated by the failure of indigenous astronomy to make progress, was accompanied by a sinocentric reinterpretation that declared the imported ideas Chinese in origin:

>European astronomy was so much judged worth consideration that numerous Chinese authors developed the idea that the Chinese of antiquity had anticipated most of the novelties presented by the missionaries as European discoveries, for example, the rotundity of the Earth and the "heavenly spherical star carrier model." Making skillful use of philology, these authors cleverly reinterpreted the greatest technical and literary works of Chinese antiquity. From this sprang a new science wholly dedicated to the demonstration of the Chinese origin of astronomy and more generally of all European science and technology.[79]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth#Ming_China

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I thought India's GDP was $2.4T in 2017
Why did the numbers for every country change?

>European
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Why everyone expect Russia to be super wealthy and shiet? Like when people say "lol Russia GDP less than Italy"
Is Italy some kind of shithole for you? I cannot understand that, sorry

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This is important. Note it

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GDP doesn't give you a perfectly good indication of economic development. It only accounts for income flows, not the quality of those flows. If you spend an incredible sum of money on worthless real estate development projects that will never come to use, that may inflate your GDP, but doesn't lead to long-term sustainable income generation.

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Everyone knows that user