>A kid declared cerebrally dead by the medic equipe was given the Italian citizenship to avoid the British government pulling the plug
What do you think about it? Did we do the right thing?
A kid declared cerebrally dead by the medic equipe was given the Italian citizenship to avoid the British government...
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Why are you asking me? Your taxes are probably paying for him. Did you do the right thing?
He is a cabbage with no hope of recovery, his family need to let go.
I can understand why the family did it, the NHS has a bad reputation of leaving treatment too late, refusing alternative treatments and killing children. But in this case, the kid is clearly dead.
>Utilitarian argument
so we should stop funding researches for the few ill people?
You want to rephrase your question to clear your point up a bit?
He is not ill, he is fucking dead.
>pope recieves parants kids in vatican
>next day italian government gives citizenship
makes me think
Just let the poor kid die in peace...
his family are putting the child under so much pain with no hope for recovery
I mean, if you think is just a matter of money, and that we shouldn't spend it on a tiny minority (in this case just a person) then do you agree on saving said money even in other cases such as Multiple Sclerosis research since it affects only >1% of the population?
What is this grudge against letting humans fucking die when they are already dead aside from some bodily functions?
Ok i will play along. Lets say a miracle happens and he wakes up, he will be a drooling spastic forever, is that fair to him or his family?
It's not about how many people it affects, this is about whether this person can feasibly be saved or not.
Well, our government would have harvested his organs.
I'm for pulling out, he's dead, just saying we shouldn't use that particular argument.
This brings up a terrible precedent for this kind of immigrant tourism. Very soon there will be thousands of people moving towards Italy for the very same reason and abusing the country's social system.
>cerebrally dead
Why keep a heart without a brain pumping?
why would you waste public resources keeping the organs of a kid alive while he's dead?
Follow the country of God miscredents
there is no research as it is invasive
you have to understand that your life isn't in the cycling of blood, which can be done through a pump, but in the electric potential of the brain
your argument from him being a research subject is the utilitarian argument and that his worth as research subject is greater than the finality of death of which he cannot receive due to his price in science
we can emulate life in a piece of human flesh but when this human flesh is the human body we no longer just consider it a piece of meat, so really the argument rests on the perception of death and whether or not science should be used to save life or prolong death
Depends on what they in the UK classify as brain death. Complete brain death is actual death because your brain tissue has liquified, leaving you literally brainless.
if he's basically a veggie putting him to permasleep would be the humane thing to do. you dun goofed italy
Anglos are subhumans, don't try to reason with them
We always have to make a fool out of ourselves, don't we? The kid is practically dead, no one can save him, in fact the doctors in Italy are just keeping him alive without actually curing him, because there's simply no cure for his disease
If he is dead veggie, then how can finishing or not finishing him be humane?
I don't know if having only one eye contact on changed my perception on certain things or not but I feel that it makes me think that these responses are extra morbid today. I shall continue to experience this one eye contact life for today.
we don't fully understand how consciousness is formed in a body. there may be something left and that something might be in a world of constant pain. by finishing him off we are sure that the lights are off
this zombie state is not something any normal person would prefer imho
>braindead
>pain
uh
that's sad desu
i feel bad for the parents though, they didn't need that false hope.
>Charlie Gard
>Alfie Evans
The wonders of public healthcare
He's brain dead, so pulling or not pulling the plug matters little
abdelhak nouri will be the eu's terri schiavo
Good post
Satanic atheism hates the sanctity of human life. Notice how the immoral always love the lives of animals but have no qualms about the murder of children.
come lick my feet mr. poop
that should be the parents' decision, not the state's.
Disagree. Keep him around in case someone needs fresh organs.
Then the parents can decide to pay the >$1000 a day.
The parents aren't footing the bill.
Not to mention, his care is tying up hospital resources that could be used on patients who actually have a hope of recovery.
>Did we do the right thing?
Well, depends, will you harvest the organs the kiddo does obviously not need anymore?
t. Latin America's Anglo client state
We only get to exist once.
Maybe there is enough activity to allow some dreaming.
If the kid is really completely gone, keeping the body alive hurts nobody.
>keeping the body alive hurts nobody.
except tax payers, other patients who would need those machines or bed and if the laws allow organ harvesting the people who need the organs...
But we are a Chinese mining company and sorry, sometimes I forget that New Zealand is an anglo country, your people are the only good anglos.
How Can Our Brains Be Dead If Our Souls Aren't Dead?
I have met both brainless and souless people.
Souls are stored in the balls ya dummy
that's how succubus kill you they suck your soul out your peepee hole
KEK
>Did we do the right thing?
yes, because this one weird trick raised your nation's average IQ by 5 whole points
Lets see.
He's braindead, no chance of recovery. Body will not live off the machines. He's dead.
Not to worry though; that 'free' healthcare will keep him alive as long as the tax payer money keeps flowing in.
They would taste nice with some fava beans and a nice chianti.