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Japan fought nazi with America
It's my boner

one grandfather shot j*ps at kokoda
the other was in northern ireland and wanted hitler to win

He fought the Japanese.

does communist China count

>your grandfather
both my grandfathers were like 10 years old during ww2
are you like 40 yo OP??
if so then get out, Jow Forums belongs to qt boys in their early 20s

I'm 23, but my mom was born in 1960. Also I'm a girl(male).

Both KMT and China fought against the pons so yes

My grandfather would have fought the nips had we invaded. His uncle was a literal Nazi, guy was in the SS and personally took part in executions.

My grandfather on my mom's side was a paratrooper. He fought in the Bulge and also helped free a death camp.

All four of my great grandfathers fought in World War 2. One was a Spic bomber pilot, who participated in various raids on Germany. Another CHI grandfather was a tank commander in the European theater and killed Germans AND Italians. He got mad when I bought a German car. Pretty awesome dude desu. Still alive and owns and maintains a World War 2 era Jeep and used to have an operational half track out in the desert when I was a little kid.

My Dads grandfather paternally, was in the 442nd segregated Infanty and won a bunch of medals for killing Germans. My only White great grandfather, father of my dad's mom, fought in the Pacific as a flamethrower operator. He's almost 100 and still alive and still refuses to buy Japanese products. He likes my dads dads family despite them being AJA since they killed foreigners during the war. Pretty awesome dude desu.

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My grandfathers didn't fought on the war

Feels great to live in a forgotten continent away from any world issues

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No but my great grandfather did.

That's pretty badass. Anything else in the collection of stuff from the war?

My grandfather passed away in 2011, but he fought in the 325th Glider Infantry in the 82nd Airborne. He never jumped during the war, but did do a demonstration jump after VE Day for the Russian Generals. Pretty cool to think Zhukov probably watched him jump.

He saw action in the Ardennes, he was the only guy in his unit to survive when they got overrun on Christmas in 1944. He also took out more than his fair share of Panzers and got the Bronze Star.

Thanks to him, I have a British commando dagger, a Luger, a 10 meter long swastika banner, a Wehrmacht helmet, and a Soviet flag.

He also accidentally got a bunch of Red Army soldiers sick by speaking broken Russian.

Pic related, it's a company from his regiment.

But Brazilians fought in the Italian campaign.

Well, I have a grandfather that I never didn't meet and I knows nothing about him
Maybe he fought on italian campaign and I don't know

>Another CHI grandfather was a tank commander
bet he loves trump now!

My grand was in cavalry division. But they didn't use horses. only trucks and tanks. They were fighting G*rmans and Romanians.

How fucking old are people in this thread? My grandparents were only born during WW2, and I'm 29.

my great grandfather fought in ww1, my grandfather was in ww2 and korea, my dad was in nam. I'm barely 21.

My grandfather was in the OSS fighting the cold war before WW2 was even over. Soviet communications were secretly relayed to his and he broke them to spy on russian troop movements =_=

Same age, but my grandparents had their kids at like 40

23, one grandfather fought and the other was a bit too young to fight but he was in flight training.

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My grandpa Roger (his actual name is Rogelio but he only uses that when speaking Spanish) was in the 2nd Armored. I don't know everywhere he fought but I know he was in Italy at one point, then later in the war ended up going from France to Germany. He brought back a bunch of shit after the war. Kept a Garand which I think he still has in a box in Texas somewhere. Used to have a BAR but got rid of it in the 50s. He used to own a liquor store in East LA and would keep it under the counter.

My other MX great grandpa (the pilot) was fucking insane. He kept a hand grenade after the war and used to keep it in a bowl of fruit in the hallway when my mom was growing up that he kept to use "incase burglars try to break in" eventually he got worried that the fuse was going to degrade and cause it to go off or something so he had the police take it at some point in the 60s too. He participated in incendiary and carpet bombing raids on Germany and expressed no remorse over it after the war. He hated big governments and thought fascism was the epitome of an overbearing big government. He also thought we should have nuked the Soviet Union after Japan surrendered. Died when I was 12.

Grandpa that was in the 442nd died when I was young so I don't know much about him.

My grandfather that fought in the Pacific doesn't talk about the war too much but has some cool Japanese stuff and an Imperial flag with a bunch of Kanji that he claims are the signatures of all the leading admirals of the IJN on it. Doesn't talk about the fighting a lot but he told me a few weeks ago about this Filipino Japanese collaborator they captured at some point whom they used to call Jappy Fuck-Foot. They didn't have anywhere to hold him as a POW while on the move and they didn't want to kill him since he was like 18 so they made him wash their laundry when they'd stop by water sources. He ended up trying to run off one night in the dark and ran straight into a Japanese minefield .

Both of mine fought for axis.

He thinks Trump is a narcissistic coward.

My CHI family are all JEB!-fags.

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As long as I've got you all here:

Why did we only invade AFTER stalingrad and kursk?

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Americans seem to get children really late. Then again statistics might've been slightly skewed in East Germany because having children made you eligible for upgraded housing and other perks, and both my grandparents and my parents had children in their early 20s.

To let the commies and nazis bloody each other up for a bit, making our job easier

This. Police in California kind of just stand back and let Antifa and Neo-Nazis attack eachother at protests before stepping in for the same reason.

Mum's dad was in the 9th Australian Division.

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And in both cases, we were actually on the side of the nazis. We're not just "letting them bloody each other up," we're actively stalling, hoping the nazis will get rid of the communists.

great grandfather died suspiciously in Italy

Not true by any measure since the US was supplying the USSR with jeeps and guns and such

Good on him. Alt-right edgelords like to think that since WWII vets were a fairly conservative generation, they were actually all Nazi-sympathizers or some bullshit like that. Not true at all, my grandfather broke down crying until the end of his life about the horrors he saw in the camp he liberated.

I know my grandpa was decently conservative but pretty much everyone in my family agrees he'd be rolling over in his grave about what's going on now.

Pretty crazy stories. IIRC I had a great uncle who fought in Japan, I don't know much about him other than that he saw action at Iwo Jima and he drowned after the war. We have a few Japanese flags and a banner with some Kanji on it that belonged to him. I asked a friend of mine who studies Japanese to translate, he said it was from a shop selling sake and soy sauce.

There was a lot my grandfather never talked about until later in life. He shared one story with me, a month or two before he died, where he was about to toss a hand grenade into a room to clear it but instead said (in German) "come out with your hands up." Right after that, out walked a terrified 15 year old kid in the Hitler Youth. He also mentioned that when he was in Belgium, I think just before the Bulge, they got to have pancakes for breakfast one day and these two starving girls, probably orphans, went up and all the soldiers gave them some of the extra food so they could have a hearty meal. That in particular really stuck with him.

IIRC he joined because he saw the Nazis as undemocratic and expansionist. The annexation of the suddettenland was a major factor. He originally wanted to join the ski troops, but instead the Army thought he was smart so they put him in Carnegie Melon.

He realized if he stuck around there, he'd sit out the war in college so he thought "fuck this" and flunked out on purpose so he would get combat duty. They put him in paratrooper school and he ended up being a replacement in the glider infantry.

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Smart.

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When I was born, my mom was 34 and my dad was 40. Both of them came from bigger families, my mom was born in 1960 and was sort of a middle child, and her father fought in WWII.

My mum's dad gathered intelligence and directed artillery towards the japanese in Papua for a couple of years. I don't believe he ever personally shot anyone, but he definitely saw some shit and was responsible for some shit. He came back and became a building inspector and raised his 5 daughters and 1 son with his wife who was a housewife.

My dad's dad landed in sword beach on D-day as a royal marine (part of this unit I believe en.wikipedia.org/wiki/41_Commando) and spent the rest of the war going around Europe killing nazis. He definitely saw some shit and didn't like talking about it. After the war he served for a couple of years in British forces around the world, including in India when they were protesting non-violently for their independence. After the war he met up with his sweetheart in Britain (who had run away to Israel to become a nurse during the war, and doesn't like jews anymore because they treated her like shit when the she/The British pulled out of Israel), they moved to Australia as 10 pound poms, and he became a bricklayer and they raised their 3 sons. I think they wanted to get away from what they had seen during the war.

One fought japs and the other fought krauts, but one thing they had in common was they both hated fascists. They're both dead now, but I'll honour their memory and fight fascism with force if I ever need to, which I hopefully won't.

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This. We were basically the oil that kept the Russian war machine lubricated.

Interestingly, the Brits actually thought of bombing Russia early in the war during Molotov Ribbentrop since they were providing the Germans with oil.

Also interesting is how the US was allied with Russia in the west but neutral in the east. When American crews bombing Japan landed in Russia, they were taken prisoner. The Russians even copied the B-29 bolt by bolt after one crashed.

user- ben bernanke, antifa, and the alt-right are all liberals. They just disagree on social issues.

My grandfather arrived in 45 from Germany as a "war refugee" at the age of 20.

Thankfully we were under Salazar so nobody cared, and the locals received him well. My father outright refused to ask what prompt him to escape. All we know is that he was in the army, and was in Netherlands was pushed back. He told us he was in the 18. Armee and the Waffen SS but he didn't do anything weird and was stationed most of the time in the Netherlands.
I really wanted to talk more about it but he never did. He was a cool granps though, visited many time and really cared for me and my sister. He left my father some stuff from the war that I am to inherit.

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Not true. Bernanke is a liberal. But alt-right are protectionists, which is antithetical to liberalism, and antifa are leftists who tend to be very anti-market.

On some level, you can use the term "liberal" to talk about anyone ranging from Barack Obama to Gary Johnson.

Liberalism is more than just neo-lib, user. All three are 100% liberals.

Wasn't Portugal a bit of a crossroads of both sides in the war? I've read you'd see German and British planes parked next to each other on the tarmac in Lisbon.

I also had relatives in the SS, but not the Waffen SS. My great great uncle was a guard at a camp and personally took part in a number of executions. He was hanged after the war at Flossenburg.

Also antifa are not leftist, they only think they are. They're liberal """anarchists""" with a thin thin coat of le punk rawk XD paint

They're controlled opposition, and are firmly liberal. Look at what their actual beliefs are, they want to abolish all regulations and legalize prostitution lmao they're straight out of the koch foundation

I dunno. Maybe some alt-right types are liberal on some level, but Antifa would probably call themselves anti-liberal. I have a lot of leftist friends who support antifa and they usually call me a "milkminded liberal."

Antifa are definitely not the same as modern liberals who range from Bill Clinton to Bernie Sanders.

Both grandfathers were in the service and both are buried in the same large military cemetery. I'm not clear on what dad's dad did exactly but he did a thing or two as his medals are in the family safe (incl. one purple heart IIRC). Mom's dad came down with Multiple Sclerosis after joining (drafting?), and apparently there were buzzings around him that he was faking but at any event he was discharged, honorably I guess.

This thread is getting pretty spooky.

They would definitely claim to be something other than liberal, but that doesn't make them necessarily right. A lot of people who describe themselves as "anarchists" canvas for the democratic party.

>Good on him. Alt-right edgelords like to think that since WWII vets were a fairly conservative generation, they were actually all Nazi-sympathizers or some bullshit like that. Not true at all, my grandfather broke down crying until the end of his life about the horrors he saw in the camp he liberated.

This. Conservatism =/= fascism and Nazi sympathizing. The US as a whole was very conservative at the time and still quite racist but the general population still realized Nazi Germany was fucking evil. Even my ultra conservative grandpa, the dude who fought in the Pacific doesn't like Trump or the Alt-right fags and he's only voted Republican and made racist jokes every second sentence his entire life. People who lived through the era of European fascism and literally fought against it aren't going to be supporting people espousing it's ideals. These are people who actually saw their friends heads getting blown off by German soldiers; they're not going to be taking the side of the hick wearing the SS uniform at a rally in Georgia.

>IIRC he joined because he saw the Nazis as undemocratic and expansionist.
Same, my great grandfather wasn't a citizen and was already making very good money as machinist manufacturing his own self designed auto parts for Ford when the war started and would have never had to join. He just went in because he was very into the ideals of independence and personal freedom that the US represented and thought Germany and Italy were threatening that.

I don't know why people like the dude below thing they'd support it.

Are you fucking retarded? We gave the the Soviets the inflation accounted equivalent of trillions in material and armaments aid.

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Guess I'll share a bit more too. He was wounded during the second German offensive in the Tobruk siege and also took part in the second battle of El Alamein and every thing there after up until he was wounded again in Borneo. He died from a heart attack before I was born so I never met him.

My dad's dad either didn't serve because he was in war essential industry or did but just wasn't directly in combat.

We were neutral, that's why he choose Portugal.
His brother left too, but to Switzerland.
They went on foot, I can only imagine the fucking balls.

My dad is old.

My dad had me at 42. Born in the fifties. Be glad user, more time to spend with him.

My grandfather was in the National Youth Organization (EON) in Greece prior to WW2, served during the italian invasion of greece and then fought in the resistance during occupation and afterwards fought in the civil war

meant for
My bad.

Not really, as he could be my grandfather. So he will die probably rather soon.

I think even then, the racism and conservatism at the time was a lot different from alt right and evangelical stuff today. There were some people who were openly gay or even transgender (see Christine Jorgensen) back then were just seen as maybe a bit of an oddity more than anything else.

It was really just "don't make my life too different, stay out of my business, and I'll stay out of yours and we can probably coexist." People didn't really have strong feelings about stuff like that until all the culture war stuff we've seen since the 60s.

The racism too, outside of the south, was a lot different from alt right or Nazi shit. Most people who probably threw words like "nigger" around might have believed in some stereotypes about blacks that would be seen as racist today but if you asked any of those individual people, they probably didn't support policy based on race and would be fine with most non-whites if they prove themselves to be decent people.

At the end of the day, WWII vets were a generation that as a whole might have skewed more conservative, but they had their members who leaned more strongly one way or the other, and it's really hard to project modern politics on people from a few generations ago.

It's all fucked to high hell now because of the demographic change in the West. Then minorities were seen as individuals. Now they're seen as masses.

Liberal-nationalist militiaman, fought against Nazi-collaborationist government in Czechoslovakia. After war, was chased out by reds, under threat of execution for not having been one of their partisans.

bloody wogs ey?

I also have a relative who fought for the Germans as a human minesweeper. He escaped and was forced to join the Red Army.

In my view, allowing war refugees was a policy error and paved the way for the disastrous decision to end the White Australia Policy.

lel well you can fuck off and get shot by communists like your grandad would have then

>Then minorities were seen as individuals. Now they're seen as masses.
That's not even anything new, at least in the states. Maybe it's because we've had mass immigration for years, but there have always been groups that were seen being totally generalized. In 1907, 1.3 million Europeans came to the US, a much ratio with the US population compared to the 1.5 million (from all over the world) that came in 2016.

There were similar attitudes throughout US history, as well. There was the (in)famous No-Nothing Party, which claimed that importing Catholic immigrants would repress liberty in the US the same way the revolutions of 1848 were repressed in Europe. They legitimately believed that the Pope was sending large numbers of immigrants to subvert the Anglo-Protestant culture in America.

For a long time, continentals and even, perhaps somewhat moreso, the Irish were seen as foreign, non-white, and uncivilized. People claim that mass immigration will cause demographic/cultural change in the US, but that already happened a very long time ago. Very few Americans descend from the Anglo colonists, and most regional cultures have obvious immigrant influences.

Sorry they fought with the Germans instead

>I think even then, the racism and conservatism at the time was a lot different from alt right and evangelical stuff today. There were some people who were openly gay or even transgender (see Christine Jorgensen) back then were just seen as maybe a bit of an oddity more than anything else.

>It was really just "don't make my life too different, stay out of my business, and I'll stay out of yours and we can probably coexist." People didn't really have strong feelings about stuff like that until all the culture war stuff we've seen since the 60s.

In more socially open parts of the country like California and NY yeah, but certainly not in some areas like the deep religious south.

My grandparents make it sound like that's how it basically was here in LA before the civil rights movement. People were kinda racist and certain businesses wouldn't let other ethnicities in (still a rarity more than a norm but totally legal then), people of all ethnicities would lob racial jokes/insults constantly and every one kind of clustered in their segregated redlined neighborhoods but my grandma says people didn't really go out of their way to make trouble for other groups at the time for the large part. Shit stirrers weren't very common and people just wanted to be left alone in their unchallenged segregated communities. She remembers White people looking at her weird and making all sorts of bizzare race based assumptions about her intelligence or her capabilities when she'd apply to jobs "above Mexicans" but she still ended up with a good paying bank job in the 40s as a brown person.

Inversely, my boss is friends with an old gay dude whom got his his knees crushed under cinderblocks and hit in the head with baseball bats for simply admitting he was gay in East Texas back in the 40s.

I feel like the ratio of racist people to non racist people isn't any different than it was back then, but in the past it was just fully acceptable for racists to discriminate and attack.

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>he can't distinguish objective policy analysis from personal self-interest

fight me irl sheep-fucker

I hope they shaved your grandmothers head in the town square.

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>There was the (in)famous No-Nothing Party, which claimed that importing Catholic immigrants would repress liberty in the US
And they did.

>They legitimately believed that the Pope was sending large numbers of immigrants to subvert the Anglo-Protestant culture in America.
And he was.

>my grandparents
>brown
LE NOT EVEN 56%

>he doesn't believe morality should influence policy
meet me at the maccas carpark ya greasy cunt

I had meant to add outside of the south.

I'm from the Chicago area, and my family is pretty whitebread, but according to my mom, her parents' relationship was frowned upon since her mother was the child of Irish immigrants and her father (though fully Americanized) had a German and French background. They were both Catholic, but it was taboo enough that it wasn't okay.

Obviously things are better for minorities today, and I think plenty of people from back then would welcome these changes while also being put off by things like pride parades, Black Lives Matter, etc.

Based

Lmao no. I can say whatever the fuck I want about the Pope and nothing will happen except maybe some Catholics sperging out at me.

Catholics did tend to support the early welfare state (if you can call that suppressing liberty), but it was mostly orchestrated by elite Anglos from the Northeast.

In an ideal world I would be in charge of everything and MY morality would obviously influence policy. Why should I accept others' mistaken ideas about what is "moral" as a legitimate basis for policy?

My paternal grandfather was a convinced fascist even after the war but Italy is kinda both in the Axis and with the allies kek, anyways I don't remember much of what he did during the war but he went to the north when the yanks came from Sicily and once the war was over he walked all the way from Friuli to Puglia, and at that time people had the most peculiar tradition: if you were a man in his 20s/30s/40s walking around, chances are someone would kill you lol, when the war ended stray fascists tried to kill as many diserters as they could and partisans rounded up all the fascists they could find. Somehow he made it to my hometown and shagged my granma tho, fun times the '40s

ok sweaty

My ancestor :)

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Yup but it is a different situation now. Then it just European ideologies and people basically shitposting against each other, kinda like here in Europe but on another continent.

Now it's more tribalistic than anything. People are auto segregating outside big cities. This "alt-right" movement will only gain traction in the US.
It's not that they're good, it's just that there is no alternative and people will not go down without a fight. The Indians didn't do it in the Americas because they knew their fate was sealed with the numbers game.
Plus a lot of shit was really really badly done in the US that will only throw coal in the fire. Forced people to live together originating white flight. Racial quotas.

If the US is already divided, just a little crisis could blow everything up.

can't google so I assume that's actually ur ancestor
cool

>Now it's more tribalistic than anything. People are auto segregating outside big cities.
It wasn't that different back then, honestly. If anything it's less divided today. Back then, if an Irishman walked into a German bar, he'd get the shit beaten out of him.

Nowadays, if someone walked into a different ethnic group's restaurant, neighborhood, or house of worship, they might get stared down but that's it. From the research I've seen, and in my experience (I went to a somewhat diverse high school and I live in one of the most diverse neighborhoods in the country), people assimilate within one generation.

A big part of white flight is actually exclusionary zoning, if the policies were more market oriented there'd be less of that ethnic segregation.

My city as a whole is notorious for being segregated and it causes very visible problems, but you also see lots of people assimilating while still retaining their original culture.

I will say that the United States historically has done and still does a fantastic job assimilating immigrants compared to most other countries. Muh heritage is mostly German (most of my great grandparents immigrated here), and on some parts of my dad's side people lived in heavily German speaking areas, and you couldn't really tell what makes me different (other than appearance) from a friend of mine whose parents came here from Jordan right before he was born.

It is. I'm if you're curious.

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You'll see user. As I said, it's different.You can choose to ignore it, or acknowledge it and try to fix it. I don't need to prove my point, the present is already proving it. From here on now, the ride keeps going and we're in it.

Like I said, there are problems with cities being overly segregated. Pic related is my city. I don't think restricting immigration will do much to fix anything (with the birth rate that inevitably happens with development, immigration is necessary).

The single best thing we can do is zoning reform. Market Urbanism has a lot of great writing on the topic.

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Dirty brown spics, i mean brown wops ruining america.

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God dam, no one mixes with the black neighborhoods compared to the rest.

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My neighborhood is actually one of the counter-examples to that. It's one of those super mixed up blobs on the north side. Wiki says "As of 2015 41.9% of residents were white, 24.5% were black, 24.1% were Hispanic or Latino, and 6.4% were Asian. It was the Chicago neighborhood in which the racial plurality had the smallest percentage, indicating the highest level of racial diversity.[7]"

The whole situation here is a lot more complicated than "no one wants to live with blacks" though that definitely played a role for a long time. There was even a "Nazi" neighborhood here at one point.

Situation is already fucked, hence why restricting immigration now is too late. The US will just keep plummeting down in quality of life as they have been since the 90's. Too many groups fighting for control. Too many bias everywhere. Too much intellectual dishonesty for propaganda pushing on all sides. You will go down the path of the U.S.S.R. with probably a little more blood if it happens.

I'm being pessimistic, I know. But you still keep talking about keeping birth rates and immigration when we should focus on automation and helping other countries, not bringing them in.

I have to go user, it's 7 am here and I have work. I wish you guys all the luck but has the son of a White Rhodesian father and White Mozambican Father who became "Retornados" trust me on this : they will not be lenient on you as you are on them. Remember you're still writing this in a position of power in society.

>Market Urbanism

Maybe, but as lot of liberal policies is more about trying to be trendy with the situation (all though liberal policies were incredible). For example house supply is indeed a problem, and Market Urbanism addresses that. But the zoning.. meh.

I can see you live in bubble since you used the word diverse, and that's bad itself, because that basically means non-white. I'm guessing you didn't mention it was 100% Asian neighbourhood but with Tibetans, Chinese, Japanese and Koreans. Or a 100% White with Swedes, Serbians, Iris and Ukrainians.
Remember what I told you user- everyone's playing cards against you. It's up to you if you fold, call, or go all-in.

>dude dead people xD

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meant Mozambican Mother*

pls typos all around sorry I slept very little. Hope you can still figure it out for the most part.

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>the other was in northern ireland and wanted hitler to win
Did he hate the british that much?

All my grandfathers were too busy working and making money to fight some war that was irrelevant to their lives, same as all the politicians and coropate owners/bankers i suppose.