WTF I love Islam now

WTF I love Islam now

Stop watching anime

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From what I know, so-called "Messenger" prohibited it not because it is haram or something like that, or because his Allah (who pretty much existed only in his head) told him so. The reason was that contemporary artist mocked Mohamed for his lies etc. And since he couldn't deal with it in some reasonable way, he decided to ban it.

Also, about that part "Generally, it is prohibited to depict animate things"; take Persia or present Iran for example. In Persia there was a tradition of depicting humans in various miniatures. And also there were/are some good artists. Check works of Iman Maleki; really remarkable artist.

Just bought Quran after reading this thread

THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND MOHAMMED IS HIS PROPHET

>Not watch an*ME
>But talk about big eyed pale waifus in afterlife

Its worse than weebfags, its ironic weebfags
S*Mitic religions are shit
Choose PAGANISM

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fuck off. all muslims need to hang

In my option, maonetto is very first user of history. My theory:

1 this dude strolls in the desert and gets bored of working, just like user
2 prophet guy very lazy. Tells everyone he can see Allah while sleeping, making of dreamings so nobody must wake him up during nap. Just like user
3 overgrown manchild, what he does not like nobody must like. Just like user
5 likes loli, just like user

I'm considering to buy it
Not that I believe in it, but kinda curious to see what they think

I assume the symbol he writes next to "the messanger" means the same as PBUH?

yeah

Anime >>>> Islamic cancer

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t. weeb

Nearly all cultures from a thousand years ago works prohibit anime
The only difference is, all other cultures have progressed, but only Muslims still follow a thousand year old dogma

I keep telling the Muslim animebros they're going to get stoned but they don't listen

t. Nafri immigrant

meh, we all sin one way or another so why not, its just one more :^)

No, he was just copying Jewish law without realising that those were meant for idols, forgetting the fact that Moses made bronze statue of serphant and ordered to make ark with two cherubs on it. But hey, that illiterate moron thought that Virgin Mary was Miriam, sister of Moses and Aaron, so what could you expect from him...
As for Persians... They were quite deviant regarding religion. I mean they have some culture of wine drinking.

Islam is a forgery from start to end. Even that halal bullshit was taken straight from Jewish kosher.

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t. Islamic scholar

quora.com/Was-the-Islamic-Golden-Age-genuinely-a-liberal-era-or-does-it-only-seem-that-way-when-compared-to-the-bad-state-of-their-contemporaries

"when the office of muhtasib fell to one Ibn al-Hajjaj. He was openly Shi'ite, and most well-known not for his religious credentials but for his opus of scatological, or deliberately obscene, sexual poetry. I imagine his idea of public order involved encouraging women to show some leg."

>thought that Virgin Mary was Miriam, sister of Moses and Aaron

Not true btw. The Virgin Mary does exist in Islamic texts.

Yes she does leaf. Read the Quran.

Islam needs a Martin Luther badly

>music is prohibited
wut

You sure are Soooo educayted, such Mufti of Islam and so on
marvelous butthurt retard/ 10

>Islamic (((scholar)))
lmao

>t. Islamic scholar
If you honestly think most Islamic laws aren't just Jewish copypasta you may be retarded.

>educayted

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It's an old critique that has been dropped by western scholars. Muhammad himself had actually talked with people who brought it up :

"When I came to Najran, they (the Christians of Najran) asked me: You read "O sister of Harun" in the Qur'an, whereas Moses was born much before Jesus. When I came back to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) I asked him about that, whereupon he said: "The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostles and pious persons who had gone before them"

The Virgin Mary has her own separate tale in the Quran. It's different than the Biblical account , but is definitely not set in Moses' era.

>Abrahamic faiths have similarties

WOAH

>Abrahamic faith
>Islam
Pick one.

>it is prohibited to depict or reproduce animate things, such as people, animals, etc.

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Basically. The only difference is instead of the Sabbath as holy day it's a Friday.

theyre literally 3 sides of the same triangle

if you ask enough imams and preachers then everything is haram.

>Create anti-Islam anime
>Muzzies can't chimp out because watching this anime is haram
Checkmate

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The fuck is with these mental gymnastics used to justify their kids watching cartoons?

Aisha playing with dolls has nothing to do with the messenger's command. Clearly shows made for kids should also be disallowed and they should only be playing with dolls.

Well we cannot forget the dead religions of the Babylonians and Sumerians can we? There is more than 3, maybe there are some we haven't found yet.

Jews, Christians and Muslims all see Abraham as the founding father you retard

>implying
hell muzzies chimp out at everything

>Well we cannot forget the dead religions of the Babylonians and Sumerians can we? There is more than 3, maybe there are some we haven't found yet.
You can probably shoehorn Mormons in there as they follow the Bible and their book of Mormon makes them as different from Christians as the New Testament separates the Christians from Jews.

Islam is backwards because prohibition doesn't work. Most religions tend to focus on what they offer, not what they forbid. Which is why people like Buddhism.

The Jewish and Christian God is YHWH, the Islamic god is called Allah, short for Al-Ilah, a moon god in pre-Islamic Arab paganism.

So no, Islam has nothing to do with Abraham, you fucking retard, especially when it was conceived two millenia later.

>I was merely pretending to be retarded
Ah yes, so the fact that father of theirs was named Imran is also a coincidence.

The Christian God is Jesus.

So no, Lutheran Christianity has nothing to do with Abraham, you fucking retard, especially when it was conceived two millenia later.

>The Christian God is Jesus.
Blasphemy. Jesus is Son of God.
>Lutheran Christianity
>German flag
Like pottery.

His life was pretty much every MILFfag dream though, as his first wife was twice his age when they got married. The rests except the lolis were MILFs too.

>Abrahamic faiths have similarties
Its not a similarity but a blatant copypaste and it wasnt an only one. Infact, he didnt just copy from Bible and Talmud. Take the account that Allah saved Jesus fro Crucifixion. This is a gnostic heresy of Basilides, but it made sense in the Gnostic context, since they thought that Jesus was a Spirit and couldnt be crucified. Here however, Jesus is an ordinary human, so whats the point? Infact, Allah is a fucking moron, since this event, that he could prevent, started a rival religion that is followed by third of the world population and is still growing.

The Hebrew word for God is YHWH, the Latin word for God is Deus, and the Arabic word for God is Allah.

Al-ilah is a title, not a name, since the pagan moon god was seen as the king of the other Gods. His actual name was Hubal.

Jews, Christians and Muslims all recognize the same Prophets, with notable exceptions being Jesus, who is only recognized by Muslims and Christians and only worshipped as the son of God by Christians, and Mohammed, who is seen as the last and final Prophet by the Muslims.

>>The Christian God is Jesus.
>Blasphemy. Jesus is Son of God.
Eh, Jesus is God, Arius. repent or Santa Claus will punch you.

>The Hebrew word for God is YHWH
No, mr. German Education, Hebrew name for god is "El" and for God "Elohim", YHWH is one of the names denoting his eternal existence.

Allah is arabic word for God, retard. In here, protestants use Allah (with local pronunciation instead arabic pronunciation) to refer the God.
Jew, Christianity and Islam worship the same God. There's a reason why I'm allowed to eat your food (except when it contains pork) or kosher foods, it's because you kill it under the God's name.

Have you ever seen the scutum fidei, you fucking idiot? If you ever left your house, you'd probably see it plastered over the inside of at least one church.

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>Jews, Christians and Muslims all recognize the same Prophets,
No, Because muds also have Dhul Qarnayin, who is either Alexander the Great or Cyrus.

What do you mean like pottery? I am Lutheran

Not a prophet though, just the man who walked to the end of the world to see the place where the sun sets (in a muddy pool of water). He also walked to Gog and Magog, where the people are trapped behind a wall between two mountains. Not a castle or anything, a fucking wall. They can't walk around. Because the earth is flat.

This shit is direct knowledge Muhammad got from Allah, so you can't escape around it by invoking Muhammad's limited knowledge. This is literally Allah speaking according to Muslims.

Sorry I am not familiar with Hebrew, I assumed that YHWH is the hebrew word for God since it is the most commonly used

You talk about the Trinity without understanding it. No Christian refers to Jesus as God.

>No Christian refers to Jesus as God.
Please tell me that you are JW and not actually a Catholic

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That's because most Christians don't understand the Trinity

Zurkanain is just an apostle (I don't know the exact word for this), not a prophet.
Muhammad is both an apostle and a prophet.

Actually "El" just means god as well, and was actually used as the name of a pagan deity at first (much like Deus in Latin languages comes from the Greek Dion, a conjugation of Zeus). Elohim is the plural form of El, but in the Old Testament this plural verb is used as if it were singular (presumably royal plural or something, you can see this with monarchs referring to themselves as "We"). YHWH does indeed refer to God's eternal existence, meaning something like "I am (who I am)" or something among those lines. And then there's "Adonai" which simply means "Lord", even in secular contexts.

>No Christian refers to Jesus as God.
I guess Thomas wasn't a Christian then.
biblehub.com/john/20-28.htm

>Al-Ilah
lol that is not a specific god. that is a title

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>Muhammad is both an apostle and a prophet.
Alongside with Jesus too.

Jesus is God in the context of the Trinity, yes, but when was the last time you heard an average Christian referring to Him as such?

Wait I though -el was an angel, like Mikha-El or Hel-El (Lucifer's previous name).

you're enclosed in your little bubble if you think other religions don't prohibit random things for no reason as well.

The average Christian is a fucking moron who doesn't know the contents of his faith though, and the Church has no interest in educating them. Francis is more interested in coming across as "hip" and being down with the kids.

Vatucan II was a mistake.

Not sure about Michael and Helel, but I know that Gabriel means something among the lines of "Friend of God", and Israel means "Wrestles with God". So the -el in their names refers to God in some way.

You have to understand that white Buddhism is different from actual Buddhism. White Buddhism is incredibly simplistic and comes down to "just be chill, man".

>Falling for the Moon God meme

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah_as_a_lunar_deity

Jewish and Christian Arabs called God Allah too before Islam you imbecile. It's related El and Elah, the Hebrew and Aramaic words for God.

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Come to think of it, you're right.
Mikhael = Who is like God?
But still for Helel, it's the shining one.

>Jewish and Christian Arabs called God Allah too before Islam you imbecile.
I never stated or implied they didn't.

>Dhul Qarnayin
He is not a prophet.

fuck you and the Portuguese.

>God(the creator of everything) has sons and has to pay the electricity bills and has to take a rest after building the universe

Christianity is greek mythology tier in terms of depicting god.

Allah doesn't need to rest or have sons(because he created the need for that so it can't be in him)

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>Jesus is God in the context of the Trinity, yes, but when was the last time you heard an average Christian referring to Him as such?
Do you actually... you know... go to Church?
nope. it means "god". Like Michael means "Who is Like God?", Lazarus came from "Eliezer" ("Help of God), Mahalalel ("Praise of God" from verb "lehalel") and so on and so forth.

abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Helel.html#.WvRnFdSFOUk

Helel is thought to be a conjugation of halal ("to shine) and unrelated to the -el suffix (kind of like how Baldwin is a translation of Badouin and unrelated to baldness).

>Allah doesn't need to rest or have sons(because he created the need for that so it can't be in him)
but who created Allah? maybe "rest" was already created by whoever created Allah

>Do you actually... you know... go to Church?
If you're limiting yourself to the Church, then you're doing it wrong.

>Arab education
Understandable since your retarded prophet thought that Trinity was, Allah, Jesus and Mary.

Moses' father is never mentioned in the Quran. It specifically says that her father is Imran like you pointed out, which didn't really matter for his critiques at the time, they only asked him about Aaron but not her father. Even the Bible itself doesn't mention Mary's father, so you have to refer to traditions that suggest Joachim was her dad. And even then Joachim was from the Jude tribe, not Levi like Mary.

If I recall it right, according to old Kanaan, the God intended to not let people know about Lucifer's true name, so yeah his name doesn't follow the "-el" actually makes a sense.

>Jesus is a God
>The Holy spirit is a god
>god is god

>christianity is monotheistic

One google search and short perusal of the holy trinity wiki page could tell you what you don't know and save you, and people replying to inform you, the effort wasted in these posts.

>Moses' father is never mentioned in the Quran. It specifically says that her father is Imran like you pointed out, which didn't really matter for his critiques at the time, they only asked him about Aaron but not her father.
Ok, I say it slow this time
In Tanakh there Are children of Amram: Moses, Aaron and Miryam
In Koran, there are Children of Imran (aka Amram): Aaron and Mary (Miryam):
>O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a wicked man nor was thy mother a harlot.
But yes, these are mere coincidences, I'm sure...

>Muslims in charge of reading comprehension
How's the 600s these days?

All of them are manifestation of the God. So they're the God itself, thus monotheistic.

>manifestation of the God
Nope, not exactly. Hypostasis differs from Manifestation. Three Hypostasis are all individual persons yet one in essence (homoousios)

Another Georgian pointing out that literally nowhere in either Gospels or the Apocrypha, or early Christian tradition, Mary is mentioned to had brother named Aaron.

Exactly, then he was asked about this very verse here and he responded in the hadith I mentioned above.

I don't think Muhammad assumes Aaron is Jesus' uncle. Because that would be moronic. This critique is super old and it doesn't really matter as much as some other debatable statements in the Quran.

Ultimate redpill: both islam and anime are shit

Based on what Christians think god is he can't have a son or family or even rest.

They are too dumb to understand what god is in Christianity.

God in Christianity is the same in Islam, but Christians reach the complete opposite conclusion.

The concept of God, as described by theologians, commonly includes the attributes of omniscience, omnipotence , omnipresence , and as having an eternal and necessary existence. Depending on one’s kind of theism, these attributes are used either in way of analogy, or in a literal sense as distinct properties of the God.

>God is most often held to be incorporeal (immaterial)

Now, why would something like that descend or have a son?

It is like a human imposing his own human behavior on a god.

considering that romans and greeks had a lot of deceptions of god/s with sons and families

and that Christianity was created under the roman empire makes me think that it is complete fabrication
Not true. Also there are many sects of Christianity that had that belief. What you believe in today is just mainstream Christianity that have been changed over and over again.

your religion is joke

>Exactly, then he was asked about this very verse here and he responded in the hadith I mentioned above.
Yes, and respnse basically was "I was pretending to be retarded". As pointed out, literally nowhere but Quran it is mentioned that Mary had Brother named Aaron or Father named Amram, but Miriam, Brother of Moses, had them Both.
>I don't think Muhammad assumes Aaron is Jesus' uncle.
if he knew better, he would, but he was illiterate and uneducated. Thats how heresy of Basilides, and bizzare stories from Talmud ended up in the Quran. He didnt even knew difference between insired scripture and rabbinical thought, because according to Mohammad, "one that kills one human, kills entire universe" was revealed by Allah, while it wasnt, its not mentioned in the bible, it is opinion stated by a rabbi in mishnah sanhedrin

Only Catholic, Orthodox, and Coptic Christianity matter. And no, it doesn't change over and again like you suggest.

>deceptions
depictions*

Shia are not muslims anyway

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That's not retardation. That's actually been used before in the Hebrew bible. And his response was good enough for his Christian critique at the time.

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>Not true.
Yes it is.
O People of the scr1pture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs. (4:171)
And:
The commentators Baidhawi, Jalaluddin, and Yahya agree in interpreting the three to mean "God, Jesus, and Mary," in the relation of Father, Mother, and Son.

>Also there are many sects of Christianity that had that belief.
First of all no, there arent.
There was one (1) sect that had similar views. They were named Collyridianism.

>your religion is joke

>if he knew better, he would, but he was illiterate and uneducated.

there were hundreds of rabbis and priests who converted to Islam that had no problem with that verse.


jew like arabs name the same names of great people they had in history.

Wtf I love anime now

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And yet another retardation: If you used it as member of the tribe meaning, it wouldnt make any kind of sense, as Mary was descent from David, tribe of Judah. She wasnt a Levite.

Why do we not let God decide whether Anime is good or not instead of relying on thousand year old texts?

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>there were hundreds of rabbis and priests
that were threatened or taxed heavily to be converted and for them this verse didnt matter, because after conversion you couldnt criticize opinions of your pedophile prophet, or else youll be murdered.