Redpill me on the War in Donbass. The separatists sound like retards IMO.
War in Donbass
I support the seperatists because Ukraine side are literal Nazis and Swedish Neo-Nazis
R.I.P. Motorola
Really?
No but it's efficient Russian propaganda.
This.
Ukraine wanted closer ties with the EU so Russia chimped out and invaded Eastern Ukraine under the guise of "Russian backed rebels"
pretty much, that venture is entirely a russian operation, in a world without nukes they would have up and invaded that whole country already, much like they did the baltic states 80 years ago
azoz battalion are literal nazis you dumbasses
there are extremists on both sides, that much is obvious
t. Ivan Ivanovitch Churkin
>WAHHH WAHHH A FEW PEOPLE ARE NAZIS NOOO
They are.
Basically they're like the south in American Civil War
Everybody knows what they fight for isn't sustainable or isn't even a good thing, really. But they weren't the ones that started the war
more like dumbass
Ukraine is full of nazis. Even their diplomats are nazis.
Like 3% are nazis
And 97% are okay with it
Just to clarify, the southern leadership in our Civil War commenced hostiles.
Muh evil Ukrainian nazis make up less than 5% of the Ukrainian resistance.
t. ukie nazi apologist
not a lot of people sign up for right-wing death squads, you are right
that doesn't make them any less bad
After reading a lot here it's clear Russians are the bad guys, or maybe I am being brainwashed, idk
Yeah and very few nazis in Russia right? You literally have the most nazi bands of any country and there's countless documentaries on Russian Neonazis. Even many Azov volunteers are from Russia...
So what? One group of volunteers are extremists – not good but not a big deal either.
What’s more important is Russia fucking up lives of millions if Donnass citizens for some geopolitical 11d chess.
But user the separatists are literal r*skies
their oligarch in chief is not far off from a fascist meme dictator as well
Lie. Ukrainian nationalists parties barely got 2% during the last elections. And not every nationalist is a nazi.
Fuck I don't know shit about us history sorry
You sure that isn't just "winners write history" sort of thing?
Shouldn't have made the analogy, but you get the point. Kiev coup guys have agenda and slogans. Donbass are the guys caught by surprise by the whole situation and in a defensive reaction the fall back on the commie stuff with gangsters instead of the party.
Had to talk to them though, not bomb them
Outdated info. Our most radical nazis are in prisons. The rest are on police control. For last few years, since 2011-2012, when they took participation in riots, police thumbed up them really hard.
Would've mattered if Ukraine was a democracy
Nazi groups are rule the streets. Police scared of them. Also battalions formed by nazi organizations are the most violent on the East.
Wew lad, even if it’s not, then at least they allow every clown and opposition leader to participate. Can’t say the same about Russia, right-o?
It's Russian propaganda to the Left in Western countries dislike Ukraine and the Ukrainian cause.
The Russians use separate propaganda channels to make the far-right think Ukraine is a Jewish country.
Lie. I’ve been to Ukraine after 2014.
The Southern congresses were firebrands to the letter, they weren't at all shy over their intentions. Their letters, correspondence, and orders are well documented.
This.
For leftists:
>Ukraine is full of evil nazis
For the rightwing:
>REMEMBER BASED RUSSIAN EMPIRE? UKRAINE IS NOT EVEN REAL
Lol, there are only Russian propaganda around, which contradicts to itself. This is just the new level of conspiracy.
You are just a retarded American and I doubt that you have the intellectual curiosity, attention span or basic intelligence to redpill yourself on anything.
But for me, the start of my redpilling process was probably this video:
youtube.com
I was a brainwashed normie liberal before then, reading soros/american sponsored media and supporting Maidan and "democracy in Ukraine".
But watching dead Russian children in videos from Donbass and realizing that there is zero empathy for these people, their wishes, interests and their very lives in the West slowly but surely started a process that eventually had most of my political opinions change 180 degrees.
It's ironic that a western liberal media and a liberal western jew (Simon Ostrovsky) managed to produce by accident some quality journalism from there which made me realize that not only there is another point of view from the one in the jewish media, but that the people of the Donbass and the Russians in general were right.
what
They banned a popular party and prominent journos get pressured, some are killed like in Russia circa 1996
Yes, why is that surprising? Putin also supports nationalist parties in other countries while being strict on it in Russia.
Stalker IRL
That's an interesting analogy, never thought of Donbass as the Confederacy. It's alright, to be fair our history outside of the 19'th/20'th centuries is for the most part rather boring. But the Confederates started the war with the attack on Ft. Sumter
> Putin also supports nationalist parties in other countries while being strict on it in Russia.
Cool story, canada
>>>/nigger/
> starting a war for nothing
> blaming the other side for the casualties
> they are right!
Well done, free thinker!
And what did you see?
There are groups of nazis, who dictate to journalists and business in Ukraine, what is allowed to do and what is not. And police can't do anything with it. Could youi see it as a tourist?
I tried to find any English info about it, but all English media silent about such cases.
Those ebil nazis haven't put a hand on the several hundred thousands of Jews, Turks and other minorities in Ukraine.
This but honestly.
>starting a war against your own population in response to civil unrest which was in response to an illegal coup
>shell civilians every day
>call Russia "aggressor" even though they sit on the sideline like cucks while Russians are being killed en masse
>some nigger in fucking Chile shares his learned opinion about these matters
well done retard
It's Donbass that is being shelled, not Kiev. Pretty easy to see who is the aggressor here, unless you're a nigger or an anglokike
They are too smart and never would do that. They know whp western media do care about.
Why are you worried about it?
You don't understand the situation. The post-Soviet countries after Soviets fall down became poorer. And they want to be part of Russia. For them Russia it's like California for us.
There are Ukrainian Army and new formed volunteer's battalions came to Donbass, and they were really aggressive toward local people. There were literally mass graves. Thats Ukraine started the war.
I have friends there and they complained a lot about the war, the politians but “nazi” aren’t even a problem. Ofc there’s no info in English, you are eating Putin’s propaganda as all other Russians who read stuff in Russian.
That sniper rifle turned my benis into the big benis
LOL can't make this up. Exactly what the Dane was saying.
Ukraine is run by jews - right wing. Ukraine is a nazi country - left wing. Love it
Every Russian can read Ukrainian.
Jews and Turks are rich in Ukraine. Being rich in Ukraine means you can hire nazi group to protect your interests.
I have a Ukrainian friend and I want to talk to him about it. He is from Donskt and I just want to be educated on the subject.
I believe he doesn't really choose sides but is upset at how the Ukrainian government handled the situation.
Illegal coup? The president ran away lol.
KGB-lead civil unrest with armed people involved is asking for a government response.
Go consume more Russopropaganda.
Get out of here
>>starting a war against your own population in response to civil unrest which was in response to an illegal coup
>>shell civilians every day
>>call Russia "aggressor" even though they sit on the sideline like cucks while Russians are being killed en masse
>>some nigger in fucking Chile shares his learned opinion about these matters
>well done retard
>It's Donbass that is being shelled, not Kiev. Pretty easy to see who is the aggressor here, unless you're a nigger or an anglokike
Wonderland Ukraine where jews hire nazis for protection.
Ukrainian media also says about that cases. They can't hide it, because there are lot of evidence and reports on social media.
> Redpill me on the War in Donbass. The separatists sound like retards IMO.
cleansing of ukrainian pro-russians by anti-russian scum putler and ukrainian govt.
t. redpilled nationalist
regards,
russian soldier
Yeah, sounds like shizophrenia, but this is Ukraine nowadays.
...or just Russkies in need of a reality check.
No, you just stupid.
I wasn't the one came up with it, I have to admit
m.youtube.com
>Donskt
Donetsk? They are rebels.
>he doesn't really choose sides
This was a personal chose of each other.
But the south did start the civil war?
your opinion of our history is only that
Yes Donetsk. Here is what he has to say:
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The losers are the ones who wrote the history considering loads of people still think the Civil War wasn't about slavery and that it was a rich industrial north vs. a poor agricultural south.
Southerners are subhumans and deserve nothing but pain and suffering.
Russians are subhumans and deserve nothing but pain and suffering.
There was a vote to impeach the president though
It didn't get enough votes according to article 111 of Ukrainian constitution
In not shitting you, Google it
Nice proxy, hohol.
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Nice proxy Ivan
After they were told fuckoff by unconstitutional Abe?
Are you drunk?
I know I am but you still make no sense
I waited your post
nothing of that sort ever took place
>80% yкpaинцeв гoвopит нa pyccкoм
100% ukrainians can understand russian.
About this letter. My opinion is the same.
Still no single Ukrainian in the thread but a ton of Russians gaslighting everybody.
Hello, troll farm!
Shh putin will kill you if you do not denounce your enemy as a nazi.
So are the nazis the good guys or not? I know they were the good guys in ww2. But are they here?!
Ukies worship bandera. They deserve genocide.
Yeap.
>oни peшили peшить пpoблeмy cилoй,
Ukrainian government totally hopes on the European and American help. But they don't care about ukrainian government.
All Ukrainians have to work tomorrow to afford good schools for their kids whod be paying off the IMF
And you're not everyone
Its a very complicated thing, nothing is as black and white.
You really have to take it down to an individual level while regarding both sides propaganda and legitimate sources from outside or neutral forces.
Both sides are obviously killing thousands for personal gain, but there is also a lot more personal going.
Cant wait for the videogames the Ukranians will bring us after this
This thread is open for everyone, you know. If Ukrainians have nothing to say and they know that, then you can make some conclusion for yourself.
here is the proof
proxyhohols btfo
They stopped posting on Jow Forums a while ago because of nonstop retarded memes when they would.
> are nazis good guys
> serious answer
Are you KC refugee or just a random autist
t. Jean-Pierre Hoholovich
t. once/current/future Russian satellite country
This was just a seizure of authority. And accidentally happened revolution.