Which one of these is objectively the better series?
How much there is difference?
Gods: Stargate SG1: Ascended beings Star Trek TNG: Q continuum
Technology gone wrong, assimilating everything else for its own benefit: Stargate SG1: Replicators Star Trek TNG: Borg
The variety of aliens: Stargate SG1: Humans everywher in the galaxy Star Trek TNG: Humanlike (a bit too much humanlike) aliens everywhere in the galaxy
Setup: Stargate SG1: Travel around the galaxy finding technology to help benefit Earth and secure it Star Trek TNG: Travel around the galaxy to learn new things while practically already being the most technologically advanced group of humanoids in the galaxy
Hard to say. Was raised watching SG1 with my dad though, so I'll have to go with them. They're both campy and comfy, I guess SG1 wins for me because TNG characters seem more 'quirky' funny, while SG1 characters have humor well integrated into their character
Logan White
SG1 Star Trek is mostly shit desu
Isaiah Morris
oh fuck, you said 'objective'. nvm
Lincoln Cox
Say that to my face private not in cyberspace and see what happens.
Can someone rate these for me, compared to each other: warhammer 40k star wars star trek star gate battlestar galactica
and briefly tell me what are they all about so far I have looked into wh40k and liked it a lot, looked into star wars and it was not very good at all, and only heard about remaining the remaining
im sensing a theme so idk, maybe they could be comparable?
Brody Wilson
I'm a fan of some of these:
40k - Tabletop game. The video games and other shit really just exists to promote awareness of the board game. You pick an army and massacre your bank account to buy the figures (or save money on ebay) and build up a force. most of the time is spent painting. Rules (currently 8th edition) come out every few years. 40k's lore is awesome because it's grim as fuck and everything is OP because every other thing is OP. I play death guard which are human super soldiers that were corrupted by chaos thousands of years ago and now serve a demonic god of disease.
Stargate - SG1 is the best, atlantis is okay. the other one i didn't see. it's about a US military program that uses a star gate (a giant fucking metal ring) to travel to other worlds. they encounter all kinds of aliens
I like the others but care less about them.
40k > SG1 > Star trek = Star wars > BSG (new series)
Blake Hall
SG1 was very much a product of its time. It'd be difficult to see something like it being made in this day and age. To some extent, the same goes for TNG as well.
DS9 on the other hand, still feels quite fresh.
Henry Harris
To add a bit: 40k is not comparable to any other setting I can think of. Basically it's a shitty future where humans rule 1 million planets across the galaxy, but are being fucking assaulted on all sides by chaos and aliens. Factions include:
Imperium (humans) - A facist theocratic autocracy that basically fights off aliens and chaos with the imperial guard, which uses the tactic of spamming humans until the enemy runs out of ammo. There are other human forces too, like the space marines which are raised from child soldiers and genetically modified to be walking tanks. Then there's the inquisition which destroys entire planets if they show any corruption. The imperium worships the emporer (big-e, e-money, emps), who is this super human from like 10,000 BC who rose up to lead humanity to rule the galaxy, but his super soldier son was corrupted by chaos and turned on him and put him on life support.
Chaos - There's a parallel dimension in the 40k universe of pure emotion and thought. It's ruled by 4 super gods- Khorne (rage, violence), Nurgle (disease, decay), Slaanesh (depravity, excess, soy), Tzeench (plotting, magic). These gods have legions of followers and demons and launch attacks into real space and fuck up the imperium. They have legions of corrupted space marines too.
Aliens - Tons of them. Eldar are arrogant space elves. Orks are basically Somalian militias in space who use magic to make things work. Tyranids are xenomorphs but in massive fucking army forms. Tau empire are basically space communists. There are tons
John Cruz
For me it's SG1
Sebastian Robinson
>Couldn't make it through the first season of SG1 because too much cheese >Yet made it through the first 2 seasons of TNG
Yeah okay
Charles Miller
I really tried, the one with the mongolian people just completely turned me off, now granted I was younger when Star Trek first got my attention
but what is "its time" anyway? the series ran for 9 years
Christian Sanchez
TNG aliens were better and more diverse, but SG1 "aliens" are same species that has been spread for other planets.
But overall, you cannot compare those. They are so different series.
Dominic Collins
They are both comfy as fug to watch OP, I can't decide, I love them both too much.
That being said I have every episode of SG-1 on DVD but not TNG.
Leo Jones
the mongolian episode was kektastic
the nine bands will one day adorn every planet in the galaxy, just you wait
Bentley Smith
Not him but I have no idea why people keep using that term to refer to TV shows without context.
Usually that phrase gets used in regards to entertainment media when it's in the context of social changes. Like when people look at Archie Bunker's incredibly blatant sexism and racism and say "Well it's a product of its time" when that really is the case, those themes were considered fine at that time it was made so it is what it is.
The best I've ever had explained by someone using the phrase was in regards to structure and seasonal length. TV back then had standalone episodes and long 20+ episode seasons. Nowadays most shows are half that and have continual arcs.
Personally I am a fan of the old way. While it has its drawbacks such as a lot of filler content, I feel those filler contents and longer seasons build a larger universe much better. If you took a show with a large, "lore" heavy universe like Star Trek or Stargate (or many other old shows) and reduced them down to 8-10 episode seasons with no filler, they wouldn't feel so "deep" in background story and universe scale.
Luke Long
Can't comment on Warhammer, sorry, but if you want a summary for me I would go
Stargate > Star Trek > Battlestar > Star Wars
Stargate is just my thing, I'm a huge fanboy for it. I love the entirety of SG1 and Atlantis (I am a huge apologist for late SG1, lots of people hate the last 2 seasons, I really like them with a very minor gripes). Universe for me is REALLY hit or miss. I liked some concepts (the core show idea of the ancient ship and its purpose) and someof the themes. I loved Robert Carlyle (he carried the show) and the characterization/conflict between Rush and Young. Otherwise it was a shadow of Stargate and felt REALLY wrong within the series overall tone, it got much better right near the end of its run and cancellation, way too late.
Star Trek is classic, it has a LOT of content, great universe, huge fandom. 6 series to choose from, all have their strengths (some more than others). I enjoy all of it, love TNG and DS9, even enjoy the usually maligned Voyager and Enterprise. I've had some enjoyment from the new series, but it doesn't feel very Trek most of the time.
I feel Battlestar gets way too much hate, it's not perfect and it's certainly no Trek/Stargate, but I really don't see why it gets the level of hate it does. It has some of the same problems that Stargate Universe did in regards to overly emotional content and a lot of disharmony in the characters (In fact, many people at the time called Stargate Universe a BSG wannabe)
Honestly I don't have much fan fare at all for Star Wars, it has iconic characters and weapons and planets and all the things the other series do but it just doesn't draw me in. I like New Hope and Empire, I don't have much care for any of the others, Force Awakens bored me to death, I never even bothered watching any of the other 3 since. I enjoy the video games (mostly older ones) of the Star Wars series way more than the movies.
Jack Scott
has anyone seen stargate origins?
Xavier Lopez
I think of it as more as a reference to limitation of technological sophistication, not necessarily just to delineate societal or methodical evolution. For example, B5 had full CGI shots for all ship models, and for its time it was alright, but that's the only part of the series that's aged badly today.
Matthew Rivera
B5 > alle
70s battlestar gallactica was kino btw
Kevin Foster
lmao, don't even bother.
>Oh by the way Catherine Langford traveled with the gate in the 1930s but she forgot and that's why she was was shocked when she saw the Stargate activate in the original film. Thank god that US army Jeep had enough power in its battery to power the gate so they could go adventure/
Christopher Phillips
What I meant was the whole post Cold War, end-of-history period, with America emerging as a largely uncontested hegemon. SG-1 was almost entirely centered on the US, and every other country was more or less along for the ride, with the assumption that this would always be the case. There are only existential threats, posed by contact with hostile alien races. Back then, it was excusable, but nowadays it feels weird.
TNG and DS9 were also rooted in that whole post Cold War world, but they feel less divorced from current events than SG-1. It also feels less unusual because they replicate the ever-shifting nature of international politics on a galactic scale. The Federation is arguably the most powerful faction in the Alpha Quadrant, but tensions run high in relation to the other powers, and eventually they have to contend with the existential threat posed by the Borg and Dominion, not merely physical but also ideological.
Hunter King
I can understand that, especially how fucking weird it feels to have the Russians and Chinese being so alright about the US having the Stargate and the technology is enables (Even with their minor disputes about it over the course of episodes like Politics, Full Alert and The Scourge.
That just would not fly at all today.
Gabriel Reed
Gonna have to say sg1, it's mostly out of nostalgia more than anything else. Loved the characters, the whole story was pretty great among other things, the time loop episode was easily my favorite.
Catherine and her dad are studying the Stargate in like 1938 in Giza when suddenly the Nazis show up and they activate the gate because they know how. They take her dad hostage through the Stargate and then Catherine and her friends escape and go after them.
It is like a high budget high school play, it is SHOCKINGLY bad, the effects are insanely bad. It's hokey as fuck and written awfully.
Go to /tv/ and see if you can get people to post the webms that used to get posted a lot when it was first being released. Holy shit is it BAD, if you're a big classic Stargate fan (and not just a trendy sci-fi "lover") you will want to blow your god damn brains out after watching it.
