>pay thousands of $ to fly overseas to visit stuff like this
>"Oh it's so romantic why can't we have it at home?"
>if anyone tries to build similar stuff here, run to City Council and protest it claiming it'll ruin the neighborhood
>"This is going to ruin the parking!"
God.
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poor people are adorable
Feels bad man. We could have such a nice country. We had a blank slate, we could have built anything. Rome, Florence, Venice, Paris, we could have made a perfected copy of the best of each. We could have built a utopia.
Instead we built stripmalls.
US actually had bretty aight architecture before the 1930s and 1950s. Much of it was destroyed to make room for highways.
Over half the surface area of most American downtowns is asphalt. I think houston's is like 60% and many are around 75%.
you can't copy european cities. new york is cool though
American developers spend a lot of $ now building "urban infill," basically turning underused lots into places similar to Europe in form so people can walk around and have a nicer neighborhood vibe.
It's really expensive, though. So we can only do so much and the new units are always expensive.
Construction in 2018 is just expensive. Especially with Trump's tariffs.
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Fakeass disney land pseudo-European shit exists all over the place as a tourist attraction. Pic related its in Michigan.
Nobody ever tried to build it as a city. That shit worked for medieval peasants with medieval peasant needs. Its 2018, retard. We've been to the moon. You don't want to live in OP. Building OP in 2018 is just plain fake, parking or no parking. We don't ahve that history, we weren't around in medieval times, we are a modern nation, get the fuck over it.
stripmalls will take me to the retarded bullshit future far faster than something tasteful and sane like paris though
>Fakeass disney land pseudo-European shit exists all over the place as a tourist attraction
No it doesn't wtf are you smoking
well yeah we build modern neighborhoods here too, and they all have one thing in common, they're soulless and empty. it's simply not possible to recreate european cities today even for europeans
Yeah it does are you kidding me, have you ever left your moms basement.
Pic related its in Washington.
because you weren't third world enough to grab the people's money to build shit, so no fancy churches and shit
considering most of your architecture is private, you are great
You did rebuild Venice though and it's embarassing. Las Vegas should be nuked
A handful of sites in a 300 million person country isn't everywhere, you're a dumbass.
But mainly you're a dumbass for thinking cars and parking lots are the only option.
Over half of Gdynia is gardens and parks. One city we created artificially.
Cagers were a mistake.
>posts china
The chinese can't even make a can opener that doesn't break on the first use.
Also Manhattan is the best city on Earth. Other boroughs are shit though. Well, Brooklyn is trying at least. But those cast iron buildings are honestly 11/10 aesthetics. No other city can compare with the /comfy/.
Its not about parking or cars dummy, Chicago doesn't have a lot of parking, most big cities don't. Medieval buildings can't be used for dense building, they aren't practical, and worst of all they are fake. It looks like disneyworld tourist crap because it is.
Americans love to go and visit kitschy "old world" themed places on vacation, but nobody wants to live there. You're just nostalgic for the past, have fun dying of Black Plague.
Soul comes with time, man. Good design and time.
I don't want to recreate European cities, I want to reclaim American ones.
>Oh it's so romantic why can't we have it at home?
Even if we did carbon-copy the architecture, much of the charm would be void and moreso because of our uncultured swine.
I...I'm sorry. I've never been to vegas and was unaware. I can't think of a single reason not to carpet bomb it.
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OP: "We should rebuild ye Olde Worlde European charm but like in the USA this time!!!"
: "Oh wait nevermind thats embarassing"
At least our Venice won't sink
BAHAHAHAHA
It's full of fat americans, though. I don't want to go there.
God, that's not what I wanted. I mean like, build a city in the style of paris or such, not a plaster themepark. Like, copy the building designs, general aesthetic, city planning, and make a useful, functional city. Instead of just winging it and ending up with abominations like houston. We could have planned, we could have modeled a new city based on such and such as suitable to the climate. A venice in Louisiana would be fine. In a desert it's just...cheap and fake. I want a liveable city, built for function, but built in old world style, is what I meant, and there shouldn't be a problem copying a particularly great section of an old city and building around that as a cornerstone. Is what I meant.
>we should have built replicas of famous cities
it would have been shit, just like China's
I dream that one day, automatic cars will make parking lots obsolete (you'll just tell your car to go home, or go be an uber after it drops you off). hopefully we turn those parking lots into parks, but we'll probably just turn them into commie blocks and warehouse stores.
I wasn't talking about architecture at all. Form is what's important, you can change architectural details any time. Even the OP is very simple, just bricks and terra cotta. A lot of the most scenic places have simple architecture when you look closely.
Look at this scenic street on Christmas. The buildings are just plaster. But the form puts them about 5 stories, next to each other, on cozy streets. Just like in OP even though they're wildly different places.
That's what's important. You can do it with any functional architectural style and the result is nice.
If anyone tried to build it here it would be nothing more than a cheap tacky knockoff filled with starbucks and maybe an apple store.
Neither will theirs once they dam the spainish moroccan straight.
5 story buildings kill city density though and causes skyrocketing rent. Yeah those short buildings look cute and cozy and that type of building has a place too. But not in any modern American city.
Pic related is San Francisco's cozy housing which homeowners refuse to tear down or build more high densely to "keep the character" and meanwhile people can't even afford to live there anymore.
Denser is better. Taller is better. And plaster doesn't hold up as well as steel.
Personally I don't mind chains going into places like this. Rather have them here than in a strip mall.
Anyway where do you think apple stores and starbucks are located in the rest of the world? They don't have strip malls you know.
>Anyway where do you think apple stores and starbucks are located in the rest of the world?
Ideally nowhere.
you're a good one
You're thinking too extreme, man.
People aren't going to go from suburbs to high-rises, those arne't equivalent goods. 5 stories can be very, very dense on small streets in well-designed neighborhoods. I have no problems with 12 stories either but 5 stories does not kill density. Suburbia kills density.
And super-high density isn't always the goal. It's walkability and atmosphere. The rents are high because 5-story buildings make the neighborhood damn nice.
"Suburbia" would already be gone if city living was more affordable (and green spaces were abundant and crime rates were lower). The reason why city living is not affordable for many is due to 5 story cutesie "character" bs like you show in
not necessarily, paris was renovated as a copy of london because napoleon liked it.
look up "critical regionalism" and "new urbanism".
Not really. In my shitty there are plenty of 1 story single family homes. If you tore down some of them and built 5 story mixed use, it would massively increase density. This is true for everywhere outside of places like manhattan, beijing, taiwan, and singapore. There's plenty of single family housing even in brooklyn. If you ripped that bullshit out and put in rows of dense 5 story it would massively improve the place.
As much as I would love everything to be a skyscraper, I ask not for the impossible.
Will do. Do you /n/ post?
Agree. The majority of most burgerstan cities is shitty detached single family housing on the outer rings, and a bunch of gas stations and strip malls in everything but the financial center. Plenty to rip out and grow to 5 story before we get into turning everything to cyberpunk level towers. No use building towers when next to it is probably a fucking 1 story detached mcdonalds surrounded by a parking lot.
Pfffff no.
You think suburbia would be affordable if the government didn't subsidize oil, the auto industry, home ownership, and pay for all the highways, roads, and infrastructure it takes for a suburb to exist?
Suburbia only exists because of decades of govenrment engineering. Cars have been about 75% of our infrastructure for over 70 years. You could only think cars are cheap if you don't think at all.
>"character" bs
>good design is bs
t. lives on a diet solely consisting of mcdonald's because fuck having taste