We had plans to use 9 nukes along with chemical and possibly biological weapons during the invasion of Kyushu

Thanks for the live demonstration.

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Operation Olympic, part of the larger Operation Downfall.

Don't really know what you're asking, but the military brass were the ones that came up with this.

Plan was basically this.
Nuke the beaches and then wait two days to invade.
Invade with all marines/army having gas masks as the navy pounds the remaining defenders with poison gas + regular artillery.
At least for the initial beach landing.

Kyushu had 900,000 defenders, only 96,000 Japanese defenders in Okinawa, and they still caused ~17k deaths and ~45k wounded.

Going with the increase in defenders and adding that to US deaths that's ~159k deaths and ~422k wounded
This is nearly half of the overall casualties we had, just in one invasion.

Japanese had plans to launch a modified plague bomb against West Coast cities. This isn't the same thing, of course, but it has to be considered that America would've wanted revenge for this, making the chance of us using biological weapons even greater. Possibly against cities that aren't strategically important, but still need to be taken. But the initial plans already called for all US personal to be in gas masks, so yeah.

>deploy the plague as a bio weapons
>use gas masks
that wouldn't do jack shit. plague spreads through flea bites, unless it's a rare pneumonic form which is less feasible as a weapon

if they planned on using the plague, they would have to kit the soldiers up to be resistant to insect bites + provide tons of rodentcide + flamethrowers to eliminate any source of infection.

the japs wanted to use bio weapons to harm america at home and turn our focus towards the homefront. but using bio weapons on an area you are about to invade is dumb as hell

I wasn't saying the US had plague. There's no evidence we had that disease.

Japan was the ones that were going to use the plague as bio-weapon. I don't know what US, it's not declassified as far as I know. But if they did use them it would've probably been some viral disease. Maybe a deadlier form of the cold or something.

And i'm not saying it isn't dumb, and bio-weapons weren't really heavily considered either. They were just an option.

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ah I see. my bad. I gotta read more carefully. thanks for the info tho

KILL'EM
KILL'EM ALL

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>Don't really know what you're asking
It's pretty simple, sometimes plans are proposed with some logistical estimates but not accepted. Like for example the couple of instances where Japan navy generals had proposed plans to invade Australia during WW2 that were denied each time, yet people went on for decades after the war as if they weren't.

didn't you purposefully make the T-34 literal deathtraps for its operators?

>our troops
>YEAH KILLEM

I wish the US and Japan could have avoided war. It's a somewhat farfetched idea, but if some of the decision makers were different (Yosuke Matsuoka, Cordell Hull), peace could have been maintained.

I'm not 90 years old
Fuck off John Wayne
Your mother is a lard tub and father smells of homosexuality

USSR couldn't truly invade Japan. As fucked as Japan was, Soviets simply lacked transport and navy there to do invasion. And because of a little navy, they wouldn't be able to make advantage of numbers, military experience and better weapons.
Otherwise they would actually try to invade it and wouldn't give up on Japan itself as easily as they did.

Oh, I understand. But the thing is that since the plans were abandoned after the surrender of Japan it never got to the point where the president would accept it or not. So in a way, yes it was just proposed. But at the same time it's generally considered by military historians to be what would've occurred. And these are people that have studied in detail every aspect surrounding the plans.

Only other plan was to just keep glassing Japanese cities, but nobody really expected that to work, and Truman wasn't a big fan of civilian casualties these caused.

USSR could've easily taken control of Korea + Manchugo however.
Sure that's not Japanese main-land, and would really have mattered much to them in all likelihood. But it might have caused morale problems.

do russians hate homosexuality so much because they deeply lust for each other, and a culture of hate is the only thing preventing a massive love fest from causing total state collapse?

I think it's the same as universal healthcare in USA

okay Ivan

Okay what

USSR did invade Manchukuo and Korea in august.

damn. that is actually pretty deep. I don't know how to respond to that.

I mean, I guess I could say that we don't bait and beat up people because they suppoer universal healthcare

we only had two nukes though

t. socialist

uhhhh.... I mean.... how does the healthcare system work in russia? does it work well? or is it bad?

Kyushu isn't that small. Would be roughly 1 nuke per million

Quality depends on the location, but medics sometimes try to suck off as much money as they can.
Some operations (not cosmetic) are free.
There is also private clinics, which have better quality of service on average, but personnel is aimed on sucking money from you even more.

interesting. thanks for that insight. in sounds sort of like a cluster fuck. it's an extreme cluster fuck here, of course.

Well if you did that's pretty much the birth of nazi USA
And I'll be honest, you have done Japan a good job by removing kyushuu though, they're famous for producing subhumans now

>private clinics, which have better quality of service on average

No, they do not. They are same shit as state clinics, with the same crappy outdated equipment and same incompetent doctors.

t. knower

manchukuo yes, korea is another story though
basically, soviet invasion of manchuria ended with a big capitulation of the kwangtung army in manchuria because japan proper surrendered in the august fifteenth, and had it not been for that they, rallying in north korea along with the armies in korea, would have kept fighting against soviet armor in the mountains (essentially, north korea and southern manchuria is a huge mountain range) which would have put afganistan to shame. their vaunted armoured zerging doesn't really work well unless they are on huge plains like those in europe and manchuria. america also lost to the fucking chinese army later in the battle of chosin which was fought in the very region.

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