For any Americans who have moved out of the U.S, is the grass greener on the other side?
Sometimes I look at pictures of Norway and Switzerland and they look so much aesthetically better but I'm not sure if trying to move there is worth it. I'd never be fully accepted, it's hard to find a job etc.
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I used to live in Germany and Estonia.. During this time I pretty much have been all over Europe except the Balkans. Yes indeed the grass is greener 100%. Only one thing I can think of that makes the US better.
- The ability to jump in the car and go to a 24 hour drive through or going to eat at Denny's at 3 am.
I live in Sweden half the year. Europe is great, I really love it- but home is home. America has a lot of problems and EU countries generally take better care of their people but I'll always have a sweet spot for my state/home town. American living and EU living are two vastly different things, I'm lucky to get a healthy balance of both desu. If you can swing that I recommend it.
Norway is nice. But it would not have a lot of the things you think of when Europe comes to mind.
Switzerland is nice and it does have a lot of those things (really cool historic cities, near a lot of other countries, different languages etc.). Immigrating there's hard though.
I've heard immigrating to Iceland is pretty easy, compared to other eu countries- but the language is tough and like said about Norway, it's really not what you'd think. Scandinavia generally feels more eastern European than Western European. If you want that "European" look Americans romanticize Scandinavia definitely isn't for you.
You can find the same Swiss and Norwegian landscape in the states though
>Scandinavia generally feels more eastern European than Western European.
Splain
Coastal British Columbia too! They have fjords that look like a copy/paste from Norway.
The only real difference is that they have villages in the inhospitable mountains
Scandinavia looks like this. The town I live in in Sweden
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and this is Iceland
If you don't mind that boring, bleak Eastern European look then go for it. If you like the traditional European look, travel elsewhere.
>Moving to some more cold shit
I am working hard for 20 years, saving and investing all my money, then moving somewhere tropical to live like a king
Costa Rica, Belize, Ecuador, Phillippines or Thailand
Probably somewhere in latin america since I'm already bilingual
Fuck being in the depressing cold any longer
>estonia is better than the us
Ahhhh now that's comfy. The landscape I want to live around. I'd love to live somewhere like Forks, Washington or the Alaskan panhandle because of the aesthetics and cool weather.
>Video
Has that same soulless feel as a typical suburban hell around here.
>Has that same soulless feel as a typical suburban hell around here.
Yep, pretty much. Rural scandinavia is comfy though.
All great choices! Look up Peru and Cambodia. Cam. is dirt cheap, and I mean that literally. Things there might as well be free using the dollar.
That would probably be my biggest problem with Scandi life(especially with regards to the nature). Even where I'm at, it looks awful when everything isn't green.
Something like this (or just a southern canadian landscape in general) year round or close to it would be ideal
Rural norway looks comfy. But it reminds me of rural America for some reason.
if you want that just move to Washington dude. What's stopping you? Move to a comfy small town near Seattle.
Yeah it's nice and honestly I find it more appealing than anything that there is to offer in Europe. Our nature is unparalleled.
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Denmark
Sweden
Will do, I have time to think though
too much time :(
Finland
don't come here
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why are you so insecure
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i apologize for him. he is probably 16
retaliating with an even brainleter post is childish. if you ignored him that would have really hurt his feelings. now you are making his effort worth it.
>muh Norway
>muh Switzerland
why are these countries such boring American asshole magnets? Imagine being such a dried up vagina that you look up meme economic statistics on Wikipedia to decide where you live.
Is Norway the new trendy place to move? I remember a few years ago it was Hong Kong and Japan.
fjord in norway
Switzerland looks very nice to live in though, it's not just the standard of living and wages.
>Born in New England
>Southerners hate me for being a yankee
>West coasters hate me for being a east coaster
>Alaskans hate me for being a mainlander
>Hawaiians hate me for being an outlander
>Every other country hates me for being an American
>Other parts of New England hate me for being from Rhode Island
Guess I'm stuck here then
>Hong Kong and Japan
I would never want to live in either of these, especially Hong Kong.
I plan to immigrate to Greenland
Why would you even consider such a thing?
why in the fuck would you do that? Are you planning on committing suicide?
Because i like the cold
No. But I have other reasons
>tfw Greenland gf
You're going to get homesick and it's gonna be painful. Greenland isn't exactly a nice place to live
I don’t care. My family despises me, I’ve been sent letters not to come to thanksgiving. I don’t care.
Wow this thread blew up, thanks anons.
Hard mode: How the fuck do I move to those countries as an American? How unrealistic is this?
I used to live in Mexico. It wasn't much different other than the pay
What did you do to make your family despise you?
I’m bi.
I mean have you ever been?
and YOU'RE moving to HER? Usually it's the opposite... Why the fuck does she want to stay in Greenland?
If you have the money, most countries are better to live in than here.
She’s poorer than me. And moving to Nuuk with me.
i live in Italy 4-5 months a year and it’s nice at times but i wouldn’t want to pay the taxes. I think if you are poor Europe is better, if you are rich America is better.
I thought the same way too, then I got a nice dose of culture shock and it made me really reevaluate the US
I was born in the US, moved to Canada with my mom as a kid, came to hate it when I grew up, then moved back. It's much better here. Canada is depressing, cold, boring, expensive, and society in general is very inefficient. The people are standoffish, smug, one-dimensional, and ignorant, yet act as if they're God's gift, the friendliest, most well educated, people on earth.
I imagine most of northern Europe is the same. My interaction with northern/western Europeans (except for the Irish for some reason) both on the Internet and in working at a touristy restaurant has completely turned me away from ever wanting to visit the place.
Explain?
Armenia might be a good one to consider. People are very hospitable, good food (very unhealthy though, but as an American that's not too much culture shock), good watermelons and pomegranates everywhere, interesting language and culture, proud people, Yerevan is beautiful, etc. And it's very easy to move there, the hardest part would be learning the language. However, it's very conservative, so you would have to be willing to put up with that...
Georgia was also cool to visit but good fucking luck learning their language. THREE fucking alphabets on top of their language being extremely bizarre and isolated. It would be an uphill battle the whole way there.
Oh right, here’s the kicker. They hate me more than my uncle who’s gay because they consider me as “impossible to exist” they’re the world’s biggest hypocrites too. If you aren’t part of the family but gay, they’ll say “oh well you’re just a gift from god” but if you’re part of the family, they want to beat the gay out of you. And they still hate me for still identifying as bi despite me getting a gf.
When you move to another country, you'll always be considered an outsider and every little cultural difference will make you feel out of place. It won't feel natural and you'll grow an insatiable lust for a conversation with people back home.
Yes, America is an ugly fucking land.
maybe where you live
No, universally it is absolutely disgusting land that Europeans are not adapted to.
That's not necessarily true. I know a guy who moved to Finland and he claims that he feels more respected and accepted there than here. I also know some Russians who move here who say they would never step foot back home and don't identify as Russian anymore
pretty desperate to decide to live in greenland just so you can fuck an eskimo.
I’m despised by my family so it works
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If I was truly in love with someone, I would move to France if I had to. And I fucking hate France.
>- The ability to jump in the car and go to a 24 hour drive
why can't you do that in germany or estonia
Based. fuck biscum
>t. Hans on vacation
Can't handle a little heat?
At least in my experience it felt like that. I spent a few months in Germany and I just couldn't adjust to the abrasiveness and how introverted everybody is. How do Germans make friends if talking to strangers is weird?
Fuck off fullfag
Why do you hate France? I love France.
Germany has fast food stores open at 3 AM?
Why, what did you do?
yes
This t b h.
Africans should live in Africa, Europeans have light skin adapted to Europe
Read some of the posts, I answered it already. Specifically this one:
It was a bit of exaggeration. I like their culture, history, and countryside. But their people were, for the most part, extremely condescending yet had nothing to really show for it. I don't think I could stand living in a place where the average person feels obligated to posture towards me for no real reason. Plus the cities were gross and smelled awful, romantic my ass
I'm in love with the idea of moving to some southern european vineyard and chill for the rest of my life but that's just Witcher 3 inserting that picture in my head.
OP don't move north, the 9 months of shitty weather and shades of gray will make you suicidal.
I live somewhere with six months of winter, I wish we had 12
Regards, a man with allergies
well being gay/bi is just a choice so why do you have to be a special snowflake?
Your parents are based.
Hans don’t make me beat your ass and fuck you into gaydom
My language is the third contiguous language of a majority Christian speaker base in West Asia in the row after Georgian and Armenian. The speakers currently use one of six scripts depending on one's background. If you're knowledgeable you should be able to guess what it is. Don't try to move into them either as they're being genocided for the third or fourth time this century. Oh, and many don't actually use those six scripts as the language is declining as well right now. Don't try joining their church either since they've been headquartered in the U.S. since before WW2 because the British thought they were trying to build a theocracy.
I'm pulling this info out of my ass but I'm 100% sure that North American winter is way different than North European since our latitudes and sea streams are not the same.
North American winter varies entirely over a 4 hour drive
You cant just make generalizations like that
Most of those posting under the US flag on Jow Forums, are self-hating whites and millennial progressives of the following type:
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They desire the transformation of the United States, which they consider the most racist country to ever exist, into a non-white country, and are actively leading the charge to turn it more diverse and multicultural, while marginalizing the white males and reducing their social and economic power. Many of them are members of Antifa, and all of them fully support the protests taking place on college campuses, where they receive their liberal arts degrees. They consider it important to include PoC in all forms of media because it helps people especially in Western countries to make the psychological adjustments that are necessary for the transformation of their countries into multicultural societies.
They despise white America more than the most anti-Americans on Jow Forums are capable of, and are the most eager proponents of its destruction. The leading figures of the anti-American and anti-white intellectual movement in the US, are almost entirely composed of white males. They are united in their belief in and support for the extermination of the white working class demographic in the US. They consider it, just like the extermination of the bourgeoise in Marxist ideology, to be an inevitable step in the creation of a post-racial, multicultural United States, where the power is no longer dominated by white men, but distributed among women, ethnic and sexual minorities.
They are known by many names - bugmen, soyboy, numale, yoga shrimp, incel - in their desire to be recognized as allies to People of Color, women, transsexuals, and homosexuals. Despite the abundance of natural beauty in the USA, many spurn living in these areas as they are full of rural, Trump voters who are anathema to them. They fantasize of living in Europe or Canada instead.
Chaldean? I'm almost certainly completely wrong but I'm way too tired to try and get it right
What I'm saying is that there's no way you can achieve a winter as depressing as a Nordic one, unless you're living in Alaska or Northern Canada.
I've met American soldiers in Germany with German wife's they say life there is pretty similar to America. I've met Americans who live in the U.K they say it's nice, but it's too cramped and terrorism is a real issue. I've met retired Americans at Mexican beaches and in Costa Rica/Panama they seem the happiest since they pretty much just relax 24/7.
What’s with the copy-pasta?
>the 9 months of shitty weather and shades of gray will make you suicidal
Then why do most people kill themselves in late spring and summer when the weather is at its best?
You're right about the language, but it's usually not called Chaldean (in English) but Aramaic. Actually, despite the pedigree as the lingua franca of the ancient Near East, ever since the departure into Israel of Jews, some Chaldean Christians now believe that only Christians speak the language. Prior to the WWI 'genocides' the language (in its northern parts) was largely contiguous with Armenian and Armenians. They were, in fact, independent for centuries after Armenians weren't, in southeastern Turkey. Photos of that region and info can be found at tyareh.org
West of there, Aramaic speakers may have been geographically contiguous with Greeks or Greek-speakers, being the fourth majority-Christian language of West Asia, but not majority Asian itself.
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> too cramped and terrorism is a real issue
That is because getting shot isn't part of our culture.
Winter in Maine is colder than Helsinki
What's so bad about Nordic winters? Little sunlight and lots of snow? Excuse my American ignorance but that sounds like every winter everywhere
Yeah, but getting rammed with a truck or knife stabbings is cool.
>is that a bird? is it a plaNE OH GOD
Not as cool as the OG terrorist attacks
To be fair, Helsinki is as south as you get in Finland pretty much
The common theory is that the sudden change in environment makes the contrast between the already depressed's mind and the outside world even more apparent. So basically it's something like
>The wheather is fine and I still feel like shit. Nothing will ever feel good again. I guess I better kill myself.
You know you're living in a dark age when even the villains are getting lamer.