Tell me why Belgium is not a real country
How is speaking 3 languages so difficult for people to graspe?
Or perhaps it's funny because Nigel Faraday once said it
Or the "all Flemish hate Walloons" meme
Tell me why Belgium isn't a real country, with claims backed up by evidence
Depends what qualifies a real country to you I guess.
is this girl a meme already?
What do you think personally?
Yes
Belgium is a rogue province of the Netherlands
At it's core a country is a geographic location where many people have decided to unite in order to lead better lives as a whole.
"Rogue state or outlaw state is a term applied by some international theorists to states they consider threatening to the world's peace. This means being seen to meet certain criteria, such as being ruled by authoritarian governments that severely restrict human rights, sponsoring terrorism and seeking to proliferate weapons of mass destruction"
No it isn't
So say Belgium IS a country?
It's a country but not a nation.
There are no "Belgian people" you guys just united because Catholicism but nowadays you aren't even religious so there's no point
Can multilingual countries be nations?
What do you mean there are no Belgian people?
I'm Belgian
Depends what you mean by multilingual. Every country is multilingual to some degree.
To have more than one official language
Because it was made up in 1830 something by frenchy faggots and perfidious anglos who wanted to weaken the Dutch so they couldn't compete with them in conquering the world.
If the vast majority of your country speaks the same language, are the same ethnicity and share the shame culture, then yes.
this is pretty true
I don't think I've ever come across someone calling themselves "belgian"
No, you are African
Go back to school. You are making us meds look even worse
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Belgium should just be divided between France and Netherlands
Real countries consider themselves one people. And don't need four parliaments. And argue about linguistic lines and land grabs within their own borders.
>Tell me why Belgium isn't a real country, with claims backed up by evidence
The largest political party in the entire country is a separatist party.
There is a muncipality where the majority of the population speaks French, but civil servants aren't allowed to speak French with them.
Belgium has SIX different governments: the "Belgian" one, the Flemish one, the Walloon one, the Flemish speaking one, the Francophone one and the Germanophone one.
The country is failing because it's three different nations forced to share soil with one another. I insist that, if the arbitrary language border were redrawn to actually follow the factual language spheres (meaning Brussels would be part of Wallonia rather than an enclave in Flanders), the two halves of Belgium would almost instantly go their own way.
why? Im not saying belgium is a real country because it obviously isn't, but then again why should it be divided now?
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Belgium was created as a post Napoleon buffer zone between France and central europe. The Netherlands were already out of the picture for what concerns global dominance.
Because nobody is satisfied with the current arrangement. It's like a married couple that stays together to keep up appearances.
No, the United Netherlands was that buffer zone. Belgium was France weakening said buffer zone.
>How is speaking 3 languages so difficult for people to graspe?
guess English isn't one of them
Alright
What if we actually make Flanders and Wallonia separate countries?
all countries are a social construct. There's no "real" country
then we become real countries
>Mediterranean identity
Worthless until you start sinking refugee & NGO boats, jabroni. The Mediterranean will be Sub-Saharan in 2 generations if you don't.
Also fuck French hypocrisy.
Oh wow I made a spelling error, how many languages do you speak?
Colours are a social construct. There's no "real" colours.
Then, like I pointed out in my earlier post, we get a shitstorm over Brussels. They're Francophone, but technically the stretch of land between Brussels and Wallonia is Flemish... even though almost everyone there speaks French... which is why civil servants in the region aren't allowed to adress the locals in French... even if both of them speak French... even though federal Belgian law entitles all citizens to receive government aid in their preferred language.
Belgium doesn't work, and that's why it works. It's such a shitstorm it can't even properly split.
Rape is a social construct.
Belgians just need a stronger sense of nationhood. If the Swiss can manage four languages and various ethnicities, then so can Belgium. The EU isn't really helping in that regard though.
>Belgium was created as a post Napoleon buffer zone
Jesus christ mate did you even read the fucking links? Who are you to call people stupid when you can't even read?
>The Netherlands were already out of the picture for what concerns global dominance.
Of course, but they were quite strong united with Belgium.
English, Mandarin, half-forgotten Spanish and half-forgotten German. Practicing is a bit of a problem when surrounded by nothing but English speakers for hundreds of miles
It's nice not being sandwiched between 2-3 major countries who dictate my culture.
Start building your wall, Jimmy. We are all waiting
They don't dictate my culture at all, what are you talking about?
that's a very American post
Just read books, man. They are cheap and smell good too
we are not a proper country
I dont identify as a Belgian but a Walloon rather
Flemings don't identify as Belgian either, they are Flemish
pretty much two countries forced together
Swiss culture is being cucked into neutrality by France, and nazi gold. I wouldn't really call that a strong culture at all.
Having multiple languages (excluding lingua franca, of course) seems to be a penalty/ceiling for a country to organize and exert its culture abroad. Sure, there's a nice diversity for local consumption, but it inhibits cultural projection.
Budget already passed actually, but our Congress tried to push through immigration reform at the same time (the same way Reagan got tricked ~30 years ago). We're far closer to our wall than you are to policing the Med.
>he's seriously denying French and Dutch domination over Belgian culture
The worst thing Canada and Mexico have ever done to us is give us poutine and genuine tacos (not like the garbage Norwegians call tacos). We haven't been a French province dictated by French culture
Switzerland is a confederation, not a cunt.
The problem is that both flamish and walloons are a bunch of whiny cunts. I mean I wish it wasn’t true but every Belgian involved with dumb regional politics is some whiner that can do nothing but spout the same dumb memes over and over for 100 years
>Just read books, man
If you think Belgium was the result of the Napoleonic wars peace treaties it's you who needs to read more.
Smaller countries will always get influenced by their stronger and bigger neighbours. How is that bad though? All Europeans somewhat share cultures.
Okay
Give me examples of French and Dutch culture in Belgium
>If the Swiss can manage four languages and various ethnicities
"Good fences make good neighbors"
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Switzerland's unique geography allows linguistic and religious communities to follow strict natural boundaries, which do not result in these hotly contested border areas like that fucking corridor in Belgium. They're also given a great amount of autonomy in how they rule themselves, which also prevents this "WE are paying for THEIR shit" attitude. Switzerland is the worst example you could've named.
You also cannot "just" have a strong sense of nationhood, it is something that either happens or it does not. Unless, of course, you want to force all Flemish to speak French with the Jules Ferry Laws 2.0, but something tells me that wouldn't fly.
>Swiss culture is being cucked into neutrality by France, and nazi gold
Why does it not surprise me when an American says this?
Language alone is considered culture.
>All Europeans somewhat share cultures.
Well yeah to some extent.
We do you dumb fuck. Maybe not Dutch and Bulgarians but there are certain cultural trends shared throughout Europe
To WHAT extent? Explain to me how Albania and Estonia have the same culture.
I meant western Europe, come on
>We do you dumb fuck
>Maybe not Dutch and Bulgarians
Pick one, "you dumb fuck"
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Central European nations share come culture too. And some Central Euros are Germanics which share culture with Scandis and western-Euros.
And western-Euros share a lot with the Britons.
Then SAY Western Europe.
>both americas have no culture
WESTERN EUROPE!!
Language and religion are just basic cultural tenets