Future of relationship between China and Russia

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That's Mongolia

What does a picture (which you've posted on Jow Forums like 10 times already) of random lazy jobless fucks have to do with what he said? You can find unemployed alcoholics everywhere.

>even guks day-dreaming about collapse of Russia

Welcome to the club, buddy. B-belt is getting bigger and bigger every single day.

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Nope. That's The Great Horde Empire of XII.

It becomes SIGNIFICANTLY more rich (all oil is there), the south-western parts collapse into civil war, basicaly we're good.

Because it's the real China outside Shanghai skyscrapers.

shut up Chang go poop in the street.

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Streets are not enough.

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Local nuke depots disagree with this picture.

If they are to become what Canada is to the US then nukes wouldn't help defending them

Canada and US are basically the same culture. Russians and Chinese culturally are 100% aliens.

If canada had nukes their relationship with the US would be a completely different story.

Aren't they settling more and more Chinese to these area to build their own communities?

I'm from Nakhodka, near Vladivostok. There are no chinese settlers here whatsoever, only expat traders or very rarely actual businessmen (even japanese are more frequent)

Can't speak for Baikal area though

humm I see
Though, specifically for the area around Vladivostok, I have heard a lot of opinion from Northeast area of China claiming that Russia together with North Korea have blocked off any trade route the allow their production to be exported via Sea of Japan and thus responsible to the economic decline in that area and that China should have a port there

Logistics nightmare

Well, that's bullshit, China didn't have access to Sea of Japan for about 150 years and didn't use it anyway; all that was in my place were a bunch of savage manchus and han criminals that were repatriated back to China.

There are railroad links with Heilongjiang however and both ports of Vladivostok and Nakhodka are very busy ones, so I don't really think China has any issues with exports when they often just do it here.

From the point of view of those who claimed such,

When Russian come to that part of land, it was Qing dynasty in China with Manchu being the ruler of the area. There are traditionally tribes that live in the area, but because that is the area Manchu originate from, so it was destinated as something similar to National Reserve and banned others from entering.
After conflicts and confrontations, Qing governments realized they need population to hold the territory, so they allowed and then encouraged people moving into the Northeast China. However the Qing government continues to be pressured by Russian government together with other foreign governments in other part of China to give up lands
After the collapse of Qing, Korean peninsula was controlled by Japan at the time. Railroad was built across the border and trades are established, and the area subsequently developed into a heavy industry base although later being used to establish Manchuria.
Then as Imperial Japan collapse, Soviet army move into Manchuria and controlled North Korea and also helped the rise of Communist Party of China.
Then as Communist Party come into power in China, China is now part of the Eastern bloc and main direction of trade is now to Soviet countries and such so the lack of port at the time is not much of a problem at the time.
But as bilateral relationship worsen and China perform reform and opening up, the need to trade with countries in Western bloc increase and the lack of port in the area have been theorized as reason for the lack of investment/development in the area after reform and opening up, at least compare to rest of China.
And yes there are now connection and trans-shipment via existing Russian ports, but it seems like customs and such as well as things like handling fee and time make the overhead too large to be consider as an attractive option for the level of development see in other part of China

At least that is the theory proposed by those support the idea

Blue part is gonna be rich if they will deal with logistics nightmare and those faggots in Yakutia who think that they can have their own ethnostate without leaving Russia.
Red part is gonna be fine too, i think.
Green part is probably gonna fall apart and turn into fucking hell with lots of local wars. It'd be better if Reds and Blues just splitted it between each other.

So they just complain the remote part of the country is remote? Sounds frankly quite silly, it's like complaining bumhole Shanxi is not as rich as Shanghai. I get the plight of the locals in Heilongjiang of course, but I really don't think many people would support them just so their area could be a bit more rich. China has a huge coast anyway, and Harbin is actually a nice city all things considered.

It is more like, "We could have been a gateway for China to the world (mainly to Japan and America) if we actually have a port instead of being a remote corner of the country like the current situation" if I understand it correctly. Although I don't believe it would actually be that much of a game changer even if they can really get a port.

I don't really think that even if China still held it it would be rich like the coast. The area is not very populous and to actually sell imported goods you'd have to actually transport them to highly populous China proper; to Shenyang, at least, and from there further south. It would be absolutely the same as it is now: a sparsely populated entry points of cheap foreign goods (Japanese and Chinese in our case) of which only a small fraction is used on site, preventing actually big wealth from being created, and the goods just go all the way back around Transsib to western Russia.

It would be rich had the place been very important, i.e. if it was like St.Petersburg which once was our only point of sea access and the capital; it's the same situation in Shanghai which has huge population and so do its close proximities, making way for insane wealth from all the trade.

no, because canada isn't a superpower. Russia is.

Bullshit. We only have nukes.

And T-I-G-E-R-S

What a retarded comparison.
As this one said , most of the Canadian population lives on the border with USA and culturally close to it. 77% of Russian population lives in the European part. And despite all the memes about Russia being Asian, it's not culturally similar to China.
And unlike Canada, Russia has a strong military and a lot of nukes, so China can't project same way as USA on Canada.

GDP(nominal) per capita, 2018
>Russia: $11,947
>China: $10,088

GDP(PPP) per capita
>Russia: $28,958
>China: $18,066

usnews.com/news/best-countries/power-full-list#close-modal
globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

And in addition to that. 76% of Canadian export goes to USA, huge reliance.
Only like 10% of Russian export goes to China. Biggest Russian trade partner is EU by far - 45% of exports.

We are actually more like the EU's Canada if the EU can be called a single entity

Only more violent.