Why don't you have a gun, Jow Forums? How can you even defend your lolis if you don't even have a gun?

I don't feel comfortable googling "cp law in argentina" but try with /lat/ they know about this

>don't need it

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That's awful, user. You have my sympathy. Every banned loli is a strike against freedom and decency. I hope someone is already planning a revolution.

Y-you too...

>Why don't you have a gun, Jow Forums?
I do tho.

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Thank you user.

Will do as soon as I get my license.

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Very cute! I like the classic A1 furniture.

Don't you want to censor the serial though?

>Will do as soon as I get my license.
Wonderful, your lolis must be feeling safer already. What were you planning to buy for your first raifu?

>I need a gun to feel safe

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No i need a gun incase i need to kill someone

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With my bare hands.

no need to defend something that's illegal

I'm saving for a Smith & Wesson M&P R8, and a HATSAN Optima SB-W.
With a shit salary, I might want to get something cheap at first.

There is not a single individual on this planet who can claim to win a gunfight without a gun or some other device that evens the odds.
But that's even more reason to defend it, because you can't depend on your tyrannical government to defend what's yours.

>Don't you want to censor the serial though?
Lol I'm sure government already knows everything, and a private citizen can't do shit.

Besides...

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Wheelgun and scattergat? Unexpected. Why not an autoloader and a rifle?

>Lol I'm sure government already knows everything
I'm sure they do, but that's no reason to make it even easier for them.

I hardly find rifles to be on sale. Not even my local provider have these.

About autoloaders, these are quite expensive so, not for now.

Also user, why should I get a rifle or a autoloader instead? Just asking.

>projecting

You should get whatever you enjoy shooting more. Personally I find rifles much more interesting and enjoyable to shoot than handguns, but you do you.

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Ive been shooting and its fun but not fun enough to bother getting my PAL

Well, revolvers have low capacity, are complex and are hard to modify. Shotguns are less effective than rifles, particularly at range. There's a reason why police forces and armies around the world prefer rifles and autoloading pistols over revolvers and shotguns.

Scattergats do have that versatility going for them, but it's unlikely you'll benefit from that. The burger above has a point, but remember that your lolis deserve the most effective defense.

I bought a glock 26 and remington 870 but I sort of neglect them. Maybe I'll CC the 26 one day, but it seems like a massive legal hassle to even come close to using it in a defense situation

I will get my mr223a3 soon

Poor time to be buying a semi-auto in Europe. If you had been a year faster, you wouldn't have had to deal with the new EU bullshit. Also, are you sure you want to pay extra for the HK brand? Lots of cheaper ARs out there that are equally as high quality. And pistons in ARs is a silly idea.

But I live next to them

I got two

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>but it seems like a massive legal hassle to even come close to using it in a defense situation
Still better to deal with the legal fallout than die if you ask me.
But how does that affect anything?

But are they yours or your government's?

Thanks. I'll keep all of this in mind.

I wanted to get a revolver to keep in my car for trips, and one for my house (which is very narrow) so I think that a Scattergat will be enough for now, until I move and get a better-paid job I suppose.

What is preventing you from keeping a semi-automatic pistol in your car for trips? A shotgun is better than nothing, but a rifle is better than a shotgun.

My governments but I don’t see them firing, cleaning, or carrying it
When I get out I’m buying a Romanian AK. Not buying one now cause I’m here obviously.

Because I am the loli

>korean and japanese flags as targets on the right
nice

>My governments but I don’t see them firing, cleaning, or carrying it
But you can't use it to defend your lolis.
Then you need to protect yourself.

There's Jow Forums for that

Jokes on you finn I’m not a fan of lolis

But Jow Forums can't or won't always be there for you. Case in point:

No one wants to hurt me because I'm too qt

>What is preventing you from keeping a semi-automatic pistol in your car for trips?
Price. These are very expensive if you get 282 USD monthly, so for now I will stick with a much cheaper option.

I will probably get a rifle in the future. But I will have to lurk more to find a reliable source to get them. Also, I don't know how expensive these are in Peru so I will probably have the price in mind while I decide if I should get a rifle or a shotgun.

How expensive are rifles in Finland user?

I can't understand how pistols are more expensive than revolvers, because over here it's the other way around. Revolvers have more moving parts, are harder to machine and use more metal parts which drives the price up.
>How expensive are rifles in Finland user?
Depends on the rifle. You can find AKs on sale for ~300 euros, while brand new ARs are 1300 and up. My rifles were both 2k.

>Why don't you have a gun

1) no gun license
2) no money
3) it's pretty much pointless with out current gun laws

>defend

Self-defense in my country is outlawed. Firearms can be used only for hunting and shooting practice at shooting ranges. If you use a gun against someone else you would get severely punished even if it's an armed thug who's going to rob/rape/kill you.

There’s always rape and pillaging ass, wouldn’t be against it if we ever invaded Italy for whatever reason not that I’d want to, yall are tight.

>Why not make a firearm next?
Not him, but in Canada doing that will get you v&.

>1) no gun license
>2) no money
>3) it's pretty much pointless with out current gun laws
Just buy one illegally and the only thing to worry about is 2).

>Self-defense in my country is outlawed. Firearms can be used only for hunting and shooting practice at shooting ranges. If you use a gun against someone else you would get severely punished even if it's an armed thug who's going to rob/rape/kill you.
Ever heard of the 3S rule?

>Just buy one illegally
Yes, because clearly for an assburger who spends his life on chinese cartoon discussion forums and has absolutely no relevant real-life contacts of any kind whatsoever, doing something like illegally buying a fucking firearm is completely trivial and no different than buying a pack of beer at the self-checkout.

>be american
>talk about lolis
>end up talking about invading other countries

>If you use a gun against someone else you would get severely punished even if it's an armed thug who's going to rob/rape/kill you.
unless you're a young rich gopnik driving a 150k mercedes SUV and you dad is a deputy director of operations in the vtb bank
then you get to shoot people in the streets and night clubs

Because owning guns is illegal in Brazil but we already have the police to save us, that's why our crime rates are among the lowest in the world.

Simple examples little homedog

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There's TOR. Buying an illegal firearm is about as simple as buying drugs.

>buy one illegally

I don't want to get imprisoned for 8 years. Also, even if I had money I don't know where and how could I buy an illegal gun.

>Ever heard of the 3S rule?

What do you mean?

>you dad is a deputy director of operations in the vtb bank

Kids of these rich bastards usually live outside of Russial.

I don't get it either. The revolver that I'm planning to buy is about 118 USD while a simple pistol is about 820 USD.

>You can find AKs on sale for ~300 euros, while brand new ARs are 1300 and up. My rifles were both 2k.

Cool desu. I have been lurking for a bit on the internet and I found a semi-automatic RUGER 10/22 Sporter (1102) 22 LR about 429 USD. I think that I may get it, but I will have to see if I can really afford it.

>TOR

VPNs and Tor are unavailable in Russia, Roskomnadzor forces all ISPs to block the IP addresses of Tor exit nodes.

>If you use a gun against someone else you would get severely punished
Aren't the Russian authorities very corrupt? But then again, if you don't have enough money to get a gun then you won't have enough money to bribe an official.

>TOR
Let's just ignore for a second that it serves as an NSA honeypot, and for the sake of argument assume that it's really completely anonymous. Then what? You still have to actually go through with the transaction. This part alone is way too much to handle.

Maybe. In america, legal battles can be absolute hell and drain you of money, financially crippling you for potentially decades. It's really scary shit. Or you can get tossed into our for-profit prison system that will also financially cripple you

obviously in a dangerous scenario I'd rather have my firearm, but there is always a huge cloud looming over me if I have it because I have to think about every risky action carefully. if you even show a gun that could be considered some for of intimidation or threatening

>Aren't the Russian authorities very corrupt?

Yes.

>money

It's not only about money, but mostly social status and connections. If you're a regular citizen not related to the mafia which rules the country and you try to bribe someone then most likely your money would just get confiscated and you get imprisoned. As simple as that.

what if you are a qt grill? do they go easier on women like they do in america?

yeah, its better just to let a criminal decide if you live or not, not the other way around
if he wants to kill you, then he just kills you
but hey, at least you didnt react to it, and died like a brave soldier, defenseless

>If you're a regular citizen not related to the mafia which rules the country and you try to bribe someone then most likely your money would just get confiscated and you get imprisoned.

Wow. Things are definitely simpler on here. What a shame user.

That argument might make a little sense in Brazil or even in Fatistan, but in civilized countries it's completely irrelevant.

oh really, your country doesnt have armed criminals? damn
but hey, everyone has 2 lives, and when a criminal point a gun towards you for the first time, he obviously wont shoot

No idea about girls. I never interact with them and I have no gf or female friends to ask about their experience.

I fucking hate you

>What do you mean?
Shoot, Shovel, Shut up.

With that gun, you lose to a Russian bear.

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I just need my keris, spear and katana to protect my lolis

>Roskomnadzor forces all ISPs to block the IP addresses of Tor exit nodes
But the exit nodes only connect to the end site. If you're browsing a .onion site, it all stays within the system. You don't connect to exit nodes directly, you are relayed through random users, which makes it hard to block. I hear China managed to do it with a smart script that spoofs TOR algorithm and blocks the nodes if it gets through. I don't think your measures are quite at the great firewall level.

The firearm homicide rate in Canada is 0.61/100,000 people per year, which mostly includes gang members and aboriginals. In most European countries, it's substantially lower, typically around 0.2 or so. For comparison, that's similar to your odds of dying by falling off a ladder or scaffolding. It's simply a non-issue in the civilized world.

>Let's just ignore for a second that it serves as an NSA honeypot, and for the sake of argument assume that it's really completely anonymous
Yes, let's, because it isn't relevant in this discussion since NSA and Russian authorities don't share data.
>You still have to actually go through with the transaction. This part alone is way too much to handle.
Buttcoin (or some other cryptocurrency), mail service. Granted, you will have to take a leap of faith and trust the provider, but if they're legit you're pretty safe.

Yeah, it's called brandishing. But still, your best bet is to ventilate the nigger who's about to shank you and then run like fuck.

But I have a bigger gun too.

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>since NSA and Russian authorities don't share data.
I'm Canadian. The NSA certainly does share data with Canadian intelligence.

>mail service
That's a risky way of doing it.

>but if they're legit you're pretty safe.
They're selling illegal firearms on the dark web. Of course they're not legit. It's a huge leap of faith to be taking.

imagine a criminal pointing a gun towards you tomorrow?
i'm not talking about the probability, but what will be the result when it happens

>covers face
>doesn't cover name patch

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so what would you do? pull out your gun, take the safety off and shoot them while they're already aiming at you?
I always laugh at you wannabe John Wicks thinking you would do anything but freeze like a deer in headlights

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>imagine a criminal pointing a gun towards you tomorrow?
Yes, what about it? I could also imagine tripping on untied shoelaces tomorrow, smashing my head on concrete, and dying. I could imagine a million different ways of dying. The reason I don't is because of probability. Firearm homicides are no different in this regard.

Also, even if I did own a gun, it's not like I would bring it with me when I go to fucking university, or when I'm going out for a jog, or when I'm walking my dog on a sunny summer saturday at mid day. In short, not only are the odds of dying of firearm homicide incredibly low, but owning a gun wouldn't even substantially reduce them.

Oh wait, I confused you with the Russian. Still, I'd say the service is fairly safe since there's a fuckton of pedos on TOR and they only seem to get busted if they're dumb and they let some personal information slip.

>That's a risky way of doing it.
Then there's meeting face to face and dead drops. I'd say mail service is the least dangerous of the above, just send the parts separately and use someone else's address. Ask some junkies how they get the stuff when they buy it on TOR, they can probably give better info than I.

>They're selling illegal firearms on the dark web. Of course they're not legit. It's a huge leap of faith to be taking.
Fair, but criminals often operate on trust. Take ransom trojan gangs for example, if you pay them, they WILL return your files. If they didn't, nobody would bother giving them money, and they wouldn't profit.

Yeah, 9mm shield that I carry.
Gonna put on a new grip if I ever get around to it

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>so what would you do?
Look for an opportunity. When they for example order you to take out your wallet, he's expecting you to go to your waist and you can draw without getting shot yourself. Or drop your shit on the ground and shoot when he's picking them up. It's a pretty shitty situation if he's already pointing at you, but you're still better off armed than umarmed, since you at least have the option of trying something.
>take the safety off
What safety?
>I always laugh at you wannabe John Wicks thinking you would do anything but freeze like a deer in headlights
This is true, it's hard to know how you'd react in a high stress situation like that. Training helps, though, and keep in mind that it's likely a stressful situation for the mugger as well.

>wannabe John Wicks
that's what comes to your mind when someone talk about defending themselves using guns? weak
imagine what training could do to someone?

>not having an Assault Rifle TM

>might as well as just carry a baseball bat

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The more you leave the gun home, the higher the chance that something happens while you don't have your gun with you. Sure, it's a low chance, but it's still something to plan for. Or do you not fasten your seatbelt when you drive?

You're right though that knowing how to fall properly is statistically more important of a skill to know than having a gun on you. But the good thing is that you don't have to choose.

i train drawing like every day.
>safety
lel, nobody uses a safety anymore, its all DA/SA or glawks with no safety

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>Or do you not fasten your seatbelt when you drive?
Fastening my seatbelt isn't at all cumbersome, in fact you get in trouble if you don't. Walking around in public with a firearm? That's a huge risk, and extremely cumbersome. I mean, I can't even be assed to bring my phone with me when I'm walking my dog.

That isn't an "Assault Rifle", that's a pistol.

I do have an "Assault Rifle", two in fact.

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I thought we were talking about self defense. A mugger just wants your wallet and you would rather shoot him? I wouldn't want to take even a criminal's life for that, I'd just let them have it and let the cops sort it out

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can you get a legal AR "Pistol" there or do you cucked by barrel length?

>Fastening my seatbelt isn't at all cumbersome
Neither is carrying.
>Walking around in public with a firearm? That's a huge risk, and extremely cumbersome.
No it's not, if you have a good holster. You barely notice it's there, and others for certain won't.
>I mean, I can't even be assed to bring my phone with me when I'm walking my dog.
You don't have your phone in an iwb holster. Have you tried carrying? It isn't uncomfortable at all (if you are a normal sized human bean)

I'm pretty sure you won't get an AR with a pistol permit, stock or no stock. But you can get a AOW permit (which are admittedly harder to get). Pic related.
Current lengths are 40cm barrel, 84cm total. Will be reduced to 30cm barrel and 60cm total in a couple of months.

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because there is a lot more chance that a criminal will want to rob you, rather than just kill you, but still he will use a gun in case you try to react