question to non-anglos can adult foreigners learn your language and speak it properly without messing up things? not talking about accent because i've never ever seen someone who weren't born in Poland speaking perfect Polish they always make an absolute mess when it comes to cases there is one Russian on youtube, who gets 95% of it right, but he still makes mistakes once in a while, he speaks with a heavy russian accent tho, but suprisingly correct
It's not because Polish is hard. It's because, to become completely fluent like a native speaker, you basically have to live in the country, and nobody wants to live in Poland.
Jace White
>i've never ever seen someone who weren't born in Poland speaking perfect Polish some people dedicate their lives to finishing super mario 64 with as little A presses as possible but nobody bothers to learn polish
Asher Hall
Not really that they would make any mistakes, they just speak it more "simple way"
Parker Fisher
No. I've even heard smart people who live here make mistakes occasionally.
Hudson Barnes
generally the less native speakers a language have the more complex its morphology and syntax become.
Lincoln Foster
i thought italian and spanish languages are almost english tier easy
Dylan Wright
This
Brandon Parker
>Non-Anglos talking about how "easy" English is Can guarantee that you people do things like pronounce "off" and "of" the same way.
Ryan Russell
Prove it
>English >easy
It's funny, the subhumans who keep saying this speak English horribly. English is "easy" to be mediocre at, but very hard to find someone who's actually competent at it.
Blake Cruz
Polish is a fucking retarded language, no one cares about speaking to some round headed room temperature IQ car thief or moving to a 2nd world country with commie blocks has* not have
Christopher Ward
Missed fewer and not less
Christopher Smith
This is the number having to agree with gender and case right?
Not having grammatical cases doesn't make a language easy, you know.
Carter Green
>generally the less native speakers a language have the more complex its morphology and syntax become. explain why spanish is virtually the most spoken language (in terms of spread) yet it has like 40 conjugations
No native English speaker pronounces of and off the same way. Not in Canada, not in the U.S., not in the U.K. or Australia.
Jack Howard
>of course
Matthew Brooks
You don't know shit about languages. The perceived diffculty of a language has more to do with similarities between your native language and the one that your are learning than it does with grammar. Yes, having a relatively simple gramar helps, but not as much as you think. The real reason that you don't hear foreigners speak fluent Polish is because it's not a very popular language. German has one of the most unique grammars, making it hard for speakers of even other Germanic languages, yet there are people who have never lived there who sound almost exactly like a native, because German is a popular language to learn.
Landon Green
You're just proving his point.
Jonathan Collins
>i am fluent in english Why do people do this when they're clearly not? Why are they so delusional? t. i'm not fluent far from it
that's a sandhi phenomenon, phonologically the "f" in "of" is still a [v] but it's devoiced because the "c" in "course" (which is a [k]) is a voiceless consonant.
Joseph James
the less you know, the more you think you know
Kayden Green
Most of the posters on Jow Forums write and a native level, though I bet a lot of you listen poorly and can't speak for shit
Christopher Lopez
It's the same, never. Obviously if the languages are related (like Polish and Russian) you can learn it much faster, but native level in any language can only be achieved by decades of daily use. And still, people will always see you're a foreigner or speak kinda funny.
Well, portuguese has as many conjugations as spanish, but it's not like we wonder what tense the sentence is in. We instinctively know that if you wanted/needed to do something but can't, you use futuro do pretérito, but most people don't even know what futuro do pretérito is. We also know what kind of pretérito is used for the different pasts, but i can't most can't even cite the types of pretérito
Lincoln Barnes
This is exactly what defines a native language. I can't quote most Russian rules either, it just werks. I can quote most of English rules, but when I speak it it only works like 90% of the time.
Camden Brown
I first heard of sandhis when I studied the linking sounds in English many years ago. Internalizing those "rules" made my spoken English sound much more natural. I only realized recently that Italian also has sandhis when I was reading a really thorough Italian grammar. It's mindblowing how many little details native speakers know unknowingly.
Brayden Campbell
Speaking a language doesn't mean you understand and know all its rules.
I know English grammar and rules because I learned it at school. I can't say the same for Spanish. Even though it's my native language, I couldn't be a Spanish teacher because I don't remember shit about grammar rules. I just know stuff because I know it.
