Which will be the future of China?
1. economic collapse, and China is divided.
(Tibet, Uighur, Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc.)
2. Maintain current status.
(US is still superpower)
3. China is not a global superpower
but occupies East Asia
4. In the end, China takes away America's superpower
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Chinese will seat in the throne of ASIA while russians will seat in the throne of EUROPE
All of the above at the same time.
It's been like this for the last 4000 years or so.
soft transition to a representative democracy, xi is an anomaly regarding ccp trends within the past few decades
will not reclaim taiwan
will lose a minor border conflict to india
will become world leader in AI
will accept refugees
He really isn't though. Every time corruption gets out of hand, they break out the communist puritanism card which in a way is kind of what the Cultural Revolution was.
I dunno but they won't take away america's superpower status at the current rate they're going. they got their support from the west which allowed them to explode in growth. now its severely slowed
>I dunno but they won't take away america's superpower status at the current rate they're going
They won't for the simple reason that they don't have anything to offer the world that would be an improvement on Western democracy and market economics.
>Things that will not occur in this millennium
corruption was what kept china at home with their own internal conflicts, xi has been very harsh against corruption, especially that which undermines the power of the party.
again, xi is an anomaly
>It's gonna be a democracy guise
China has learnt too much about destabilisation operations to collapse.
He has and then he hasn't. If you look into it, most of the party members who were sacked for corruption coincidentally happened to be Xi's political opponents, chiefly allies of Jiang Zemin's sons.
Hong Kong will be independent
Why do you think this? Isn't China eager to bring them into the fold
4. China is based and REDpilled
Because I am Korean
I know more about China.
China's economic growth in the beginning copied South Korea.
(China stole the Korean economy, not Japan.)
Japan is a country that has industrialized since the 1870s, but it is not applicable to China.
Europe, South Americans do not know the reality of China
China will have a low growth rate in the future.
China already has a growth rate of about 3%
The Chinese Communist government is manipulating GDP.
China will not stop the democratization movement in Hong Kong.
right you are my fellow ching chonger
CHINESE WILL BE THE RULERS OF ASIA, SHITTY KORREA
It is good that you speak English.
We are learning Spanish.
A new era comes...
>will lose a minor border conflict to india
lolno
China is an utter shitpile held together with fake CCP statistics. The country has gotten very rich indeed since the 80s-90s, but most of that wealth goes to line party officials' pockets and little benefits the people at all.
Of course that's putting aside the simple fact that the country has far too many people to ever attain truly developed nation status.
no
United States is ruler of Asia now
China is only economically powerful.
However, its economic power is also weakening.
Southeast Asia and India are chasing China.
When will this meme end? Hong Kong itself does not even want independence. They want stability and money. Remember that time when Hong Kong wanted democracy so bad they revolted against their British rulers for over a hundred years? Yeah that never happened.
>China is only economically powerful.
And even then, not really since economic growth is built off of stolen technology.
Deng Xiaoping's reforms were always meant first and foremost to strengthen the state. The needs of the people were never really factored into the equation.
It's sad in a way. The people were promised all kinds of wealth and prosperity by the party that's never materialized and discontent is growing.
>(China stole the Korean economy, not Japan.)
It seems to me that Tito's Yugoslavia was more the model for China post-70s than anything.
Visit China for two weeks and travel outside tourist zones. Then report back to me. :^)
>Visit China for two weeks and travel outside tourist zones. Then report back to me. :^)
Is it bad?
You tell me.
ITT: Westerners circulate lies about China and post photos showing the poorest backward rural regions
Democratization movement is still very far away from becoming independent. Not to mention the democratization process is effectively suspended now in Hong Kong
That's the national policy of Communist party of China. Let some people become rich first.
Hebei is one of the poorer province but still far from poorest
You have to go back, Zhang.
think this trade war has exposed just how paper thin and weak china's economy really is. the US could completely blow it up if it really wanted to
I guees we're all doomed and China'll get whole world.
They completely rely on stolen US technology. If Trump cuts them off, they'll revert back to the Middle Ages.
Just like the Soviet Union back in the day. All communist cunts are the same in the end.
Dumb yank, stop believing your fake propaganda.. Xi Jinping is lifting many people out of poverty every day.
They still have some problems but they're fixing them rapidly.
In 2000 their GDP per capita was of 960 dollars, now it's 15300 dollars and it keeps rising
I've often joked that Henry Kissinger "made" China and the CCP will die shortly after he does.
We broke the Soviet Union, we can break China too.
3 but US is trying hard for 4
They will rise but I don't think it's fair to call the 21st century the "Chinese century". It will just be a perminate shift to a multipolar world. Bonus points if the EU federalizes.
We had a multipolar world in the Cold War. It wasn't pretty and it was actually a lot less stable and peaceful than today.
Yes and the Soviet economy was much smaller and less connected to the world economy. I'm scare of the future. I'm scared for my future stock portfolio.
And resume their regular cycle of chaotic civil wars and eating each other.
The Soviet Union had a lot less people than China, Spongebob.
Where are you going with this?
Just what I said. China has a big economy simply by dint of having a billion people. It's the quantity over quality thing.
What?
Such blatant samefagging
Fuck off back to Peking, Ling Ling.
Do people still call it Peking?
This Chilean is a know CCPbot. Hide and ignore.
ITT Chinese 50 cent shills
My 老师 from Taiwan does. She's kinda old though
Statistical approach is required.
Since 1950, economically successful countries are
S.Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Israel and some of the Middle East country(Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, etc)
(Western Europe, the United States, and Japan are different cases)
Other countries, such as Thailand, Malaysia, and the Philippines, have fallen into 'Middle Income Trap'
(These countries were economically promising, but they suffered an economic downturn when their national income reached $ 10,000.)
China's current national income is $ 10,000.
If China continues to grow and become an economic power, it will have to follow the style of Korea and Taiwan.
There is no room for investment in the financial markets,
because United States and the United Kingdom monopolize a financial market.
Also, since Hong Kong and Singapore dominate the Asian financial markets
There is no room for China to enter.
Singapore and Hong Kong are financial cities and are not suitable for large China.
The oil-producing countries in the Middle East are inappropriate to china
The reason why Korea has been able to grow economically is 'continuous exports'
Korea goes through cheap light industry, heavy chemical industry.
and Korea was able to successfully transition to cutting-edge industrial exports.
The reason why Korea was able to develop is that developed countries opened the their market to korea.
(Of course, it is also the factor that Korea endeavor, its technology)
Korea has made an FTA with the US, Europe, Canada, and Australia and has
actively entered the world market.
The Western advanced nations did not refuse technical cooperation with Korea.
Samsung and Hyundai are collaborating with Western advanced nations.
The reason why Western developed countries embraced Korea is because Korea is literally a 'comparatively small nation'.
Korea is a democracy and it is not a threat to advanced countries in the West.
But China is a threat to the Western world, and Western advanced countries will not cooperate with China.
Innovation and technological advancement do not simply come from research and development.
It comes from cooperation with the world.
The iPhone is only designed by the United States.
The world make iphone together.
German cars are not made by Germany alone.
Europe made that car with cooperation.
In order for China to develop technology,
China needs help from developed countries.
But they will don't.
Because China is threat to West.
Of course, China will continue to grow, But
Maybe Central Asia, the Middle East, Southeast Asia and Africa will continue to cooperate with China.
However, China will never keep the same growth rate as before.(8~10%)
China's GDP growth rate will decline to 5%, 4% and 3%
Strong competitors like Southeast Asia and India have emerged.
China's influence will gradually decline.
Get to the point, Park Chan Dong. Is China gonna collapse or not?
I don't think china will collapse.
In order for the economy to collapse like Japan in the 1990s,
Real estate and the stock market should plunge.
But China is a dictatorship, the government forced to manipulate real estate and stock markets.
But it is certain that the growth rate will decline.
You can only manipulate those markets for so long before investors pull out and liquidity plummets. Even in a dictatorship, you can't just magic up demand for million dollar studio apartments.
You don't know shit, gooky dooky. An economic slowdown or decline will lead to increased unemployment. Even if 10% of China is unemployed that's like 160 million people. 160 million people without a job? Revolution. You think a dictatorship will save them? Wrong. A crack in a dictatorship is like a crack in a dam. It will be exploited, not only by foreign powers (hint hint: CIA) but also all the enemies that Xi made over the years. Shit is gonna hit the fan. It's gonna be fucking glorious. Riots will assplode all over the country. Chinks are gonna kill each other by the tens of millions. Warlords are gonna pop up and wage small-scale wars with each other for decades. Chinks are gonna starve by the hundreds of millions. Bands of chinks are gonna prowl the cities of China looking for people to capture and eat like in The Road. I'm almost climaxing just thinking about it.
China is fucked.
>333
kek has spoken!
You have a point.
However, since China has a population of 1.4 billion people
I do not think real estate will collapse in a moment.
It is because of the population and the demand for real estate.
And the urbanization rate in China is still around 54%.
There are still many people who will migrate to the city.
Explaining why Japan's real estate collapsed in 1990,
This is because Japan continues to build buildings with high urbanization rates.
And China places restrictions on real estate purchases.
For example, the Chinese government forcibly blocks individuals so that they do not own more than one house.
And China makes individuals pay a real estate deposit 50%.
Since there are many ghost towns in China, the price of real estate may fall
But I do not think it will collapse.
Of course, as you say, unexpected variables can cause collapse.
>It is because of the population and the demand for real estate.
Most people in China are too poor to afford said real estate.
These Chinese construction projects in Africa and whatnot...if you look into it, it's really just a rather desperate attempt by the CCP to solve unemployment in their huge population because past events like the 89 democracy protests were caused by high youth unemployment. They're frantic to give young people jobs anywhere they can, even building useless bridges on faraway continents, to stave off the inevitable collapse.
he is right though you triggered Amerimutt.Now fuck off and be a good kike slaves as usual
>but also all the enemies that Xi made over the years
I thought about that too. His anti-corruption crackdowns are making a lot of very powerful enemies.
I think you mean Deng Xiaoping and Hu Jintao
We all know their GDP reporting is unreliable as fuck, and more importantly their wage reporting only cherry picks their highest earners (non-private / urban units). It convenietly leaves out more 60% of it's workforce. And don't forget about the 400million migrant workers who can't get a hukou I their city. Who fucking knows what is actually going on
You seem upset.
Commie cunts never put out reliable stats.
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Sadly the fourth one. I don't see China ever collapsing, the amount of surveillance and propaganda keeps the people loyal. Hong Kong, Macau, Tibet, and East Turkestan are defensless. They already control Africa and many other economies. China will be the next superpower no matter what.
If this was 1981, you could replace "China" with "USSR" and same thing. :^)
Stop
No. The Soviets were never as powerful as China. The only reason why they lost was because Gorbachev gave up. If he never took power there would be never widespread doubt in communist government. If China prevents their own Gorbachev from rising, then they will surely rise.
please shut up
>The Soviets were never as powerful as China
Actually China has rather less geopolitical reach than the Soviet Union did. They really have minimal influence outside of East Asia and no allies at all.
>China
>no allies
China can force almost any nation into being their ally by just threatening to crash their economy. Also they've made allies out of almost all of Africa, and as time passes on the continent will grow stronger, as an ally of China.
>No influence
They hold both our economies in their fingertips.
>China can force almost any nation into being their ally by just threatening to crash their economy.
Not even.
>Also they've made allies out of almost all of Africa, and as time passes on the continent will grow stronger,
All possibility of rational discussion ended here.
Turn off your fucking proxy, chink.
China is an Africa-level cunt outside of the CCP's shiny Potemkin Villages.
Chinks are stupid. Their sole access to Africa can be easily blockaded by our warships. China is a sitting duck.
>That one triggered samefagging burger.
As OP I'd say 2.
as for OP*
4
???
lmao all these triggered Amerimutt calling everyone chink just because they doesnt support your view.Pathetic
Lately there's been a couple of chink proxies who've been accusing everyone who disagrees with them of being one guy.
Maybe it's because it's true.
The chink proxies? Yeah, I could believe it. There's been a Pole, a Chilean, and apparently the Belgium flag as well. And you thought the Chinese 50 cent army was just a meme.
sorry should've been more specific. Maybe it's you samefagging.
>anyone who does not agree with chink 50 cent army posters is a samefag
>anyone who's disagreeing with me is a 50 cent or proxy
also 30 Ips 96 posts
There's 50 IPs in here.
All the 50 cent posters have to post from the same proxy
Mine says 45, so IDK