Do they know they are looked down by us, Westerners?

quite honestly, they don't give a fuck

based

Giving a single flying fuck about what french thinks. How about no.

europeans had a chance of building a country

now they are dismantling their chances and becoming a new playground for china russia and the us

fools

I do not look down on them. Speak for yourself, Mamadou.

t. Dembe Ququmbah

You do realize your country has muslim riots every other month?

do they know that they are our puppets and pawns to be used against russia?

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With socialists there never was a chance, retard. You westoids literally make EU a protracted suicide.

Well their only other choice is to be Russias bitch or get annihilated by Russia.

Yes, we know. And you are right to do so. And we know that as well which leads to frustration and anger.

However, you should count your blessings and consider our sorry state a cautionary tale of what communism does to society.
That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be avoiding making all new mistakes of your own either.

Good luck.

Social democracy rebuilt the war ravaged Europe and defeated Soviet Union in the Cold War. Without it socialist efforts to export the revolution would’ve been successful.

Spinelli and Kalergi are not democrats, you mongoloid

You overestimate their impact. Regardless they were decent people of good conscience and personal integrity.

It’s hard not to know. Only in Spain I feel comfortable. Some citizens of other Western European countries will tell me openly sooner or later, that I am trash for them. Even if I’m just trespassing, don’t work there and I don’t steal their job.

almost all of those countries are western countries, and most of them have capitals which are much less third world than Paris.

Well it’s not that easy as you think. We are on USA side because you are friendly and far away. You can’t do much harm to us either, because this would provoke Russia for reasonable action against US policy, and then no one would oppose.

Absolutely, I'm aware of that.

Still doesn't stop me from getting good cash in the west and then living off of that back home.

Think about that.

I think this behavior of yours unites us here on east against western influence, and this is why you may have less and less domination in Europe.

Replace Macron with Napoleon and Merkel with Hitler and maybe, just maybe, we might care what you, westerners, think of us.

>be German
>earn money in my own country like a normal human being
>retire in a cheap country that isn't a fucking slav shithole famous for harvesting organs

think about that

Yes. Do westerners know we despise them?

Yes, we know it very well, but the feeling is mutual.

We only respect the Dutch and Irish, they seem to be only people from west europe who behave properly and are civilized, rest are laughable scum, especially France, failed state.

As an American we don't despise them simply because we don't know what they are. It's between the nazis and commies so we assumed nobody would want to live there.

EU is a barrack in which everyone hates each other.

I've heard that Dutch feel almost genocidal hatred towards Poles.

Do Europeans know they are looked down by us, westerners?

Honestly it seems like bulshit and also it's not like I'm gonna give a shit about their opinion. I just admire their country, their people (ethnic people) and how civilized their people behave in other countries, there are some scum there but it's not as visible as eg. the br*tish

Westerners look down on everyone though, more specifically white westerners.

Individually, most are normal and don't but western culture has an inbuilt view of their own supremacy, and writes off others with 1-2 sentences while pretending to know everything about them, e.g. Russians and slavs are categorized as some kinda "pseudo-mafia corrupt and stuck in backwards ideas" or as "xenophobic, ignorant, people" like it was the 80s.

There's pretty much built-in contempt and dismissal of all other countries or people who aren't Northwestern European/Anglosphere by white westerners. When things happen where other cultures or people start out-succeeding them the most liberal, progressive westerner will kick into racist over-drive mode and rationalize some nonsense.

they feel like that towards Germans, now imagine Poles...

No one cares about Americans here, he said about Western Europeans, like France Germany or England. USA is a different story.

we know, and we dont care, times when western europe was seen as example are years behind us

I hate how amerimutts always but their long jewish nose in the topics that aren't about them in any way.

Yeah, I think this is very correct.

that's just mean

I don't, it's only kraut and frog subhumans that are butthurt about turning black

Do you know Europeans look at Mexico with pity and think about southern America as a third world?

We still hate just ukrainians and only them, rest are bearable for us, you can feel better.

You don’t because France treats you the same and put you into Southern Europe category that they despise as well.

I live in Bucharest, Romania, a city of 2 million people. I go to work as a programmer whose company is contracted by american firms looking for cheap, actually good work. I have studied math (in part) and """"computer science"""", and I am educated on a level similar to your average compsci westerner. I have bike tracks and voluminous parks at my disposal, so that I can healthly enjoy my free time wherever I am. I have lots of restaurants, fast-food joints, cafes, shops and whatever you would desire from a western country, at every corner of every street, ready to serve me under the same standards that you'd expect from yours truly. Every day, I live in luxury and am able to enjoy anything your run of the mill middle-class white collar westerner can enjoy.
I feel like, when a french cuck says he hates me, or an american thinks of my living conditions as meager and pitiful, that they refer, actually, to this statistical individual, this archetipal incarnation of all of my country's averages and standard deviations, and not to the life that I experience literally every single day. So why do you hate me? If you're a neet, I'm already much better off than you. And even so, unless your parents work administrative jobs, I'm better off than them individually too. And by this I mean quality of life, available leisures, luxury items like expensive computers, cars etc. vacation times and so on and so forth. Or are you simply generalizing out of ignorance and stupidity?

Well, duh? What point are you trying to make here

Do the Frenchies know we don't look up to them anymore?

And I don't feel offended in the slightest. Most people couldn't find my country on a map let alone have any knowledge about it.

I just found a way to get by decently enough and then live off of that work while I'm staying at home. Pragmatism if you will. What some German or French person thinks of me is irrelevant.

Don't like what I'm doing? Vote someone else into office that wont allow it.

I don't look down on East Europe they are kinda cool, like an alternate history Europe. Pretty neat.

My life is pretty much the same, but unlike you, I understand that the West has what we lack, their greatest strength: diversity.

We look down on eachother too so meh

That's not true at all. I admire most of those cunts.

It is France I feel sorry for.

It's just ignorance and brainwashing.

The best example would be Canada. It's actually quite common for Canadians to UNIRONICALLY say shit like "Canada is the best country in the world because we have FREE HEALTHCARE".

They're simply oblivious to the world and even to their own country. For example, they're oblivious to the Africa-tier infrastructure in our country and how so many other countries (even ex-communist ones for crying out loud) are way ahead of us. And because they're ignorant, they have no problem just absorbing the retarded brainwashing like "at least we have free healthcare xD".

>he said about Western Europeans
no he didn't you faggot

No most of us are pretty positive about Poles especially because of their work ethic compared to other immigrants. Germans are hellspawn, though.

Don't get worked up by it man.

Most people on here are autistic NEETs that haven't had actual work ever in their lives.

>get called out for being part of x country

As if it matters from some person online. Just earn those fat stacks of money and throw it at shit you want and like.

t. diaspora

its inbuilt contempt.

Northwestern Europe and the Anglosphere have built into the culture the idea that they are the center of everything, that they alone have the right to judge you and characterize/dismiss your opinions or see other countries as more complex than they assume.

Mind you its only been 60 years since the Western countries felt they had the right to own every single country on the planet, the Nazis didn't introduce any new ideas when they decided they would "colonize lands from inferior, backwards peoples" of Eastern Europe the same way that Brits and Spaniards and so-on justified colonizing the world.

tl;dr the West is still engrained with an idea of supremacy, self-righteousness they built into it due to a colonial/imperial past that they never got rid of, but still see most countries with the same sense of hubris.

they still hold this view despite all west european countries already sinking into irrelevance and with their moment in history forever gone and being superseded by non-Western powers.

Yeah,from NZ

yeah you're right, erasing whole cultures and bloodlines to install your retarded totalitarian system is the highest rank of integrity I heard of.

i can confirm as first impression but then they start talking like you're from some african shithole where if you a car you're related to the president or other shit. and the best part is when you have a good degree they think your family is rich

that's the good thing about america. they are too ignorant of geography to know most of the countries that exist in eastern/central europe, prior to that they just caricature them as "probably Soviets". the other western countries know they exist but just look down on them, and it gets even funnier when countries like the UK and France try to fucking act like they have diplomatic clout.

its pretty comical, and it leads to most countries sort of being dismissive of the West right now since they never showed proper respect that countries tend to want. e.g. Africa is going to China because Western Euro countries always insisted they change 100 things and makes huge demands on them, without respecting their authority whereas china gives no fucks about political demands.

>all west european countries already sinking into irrelevance
WE WILL NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT

That explains much. Most people who like Poles aren't from Europe. They are from America/Australia and knows Poland from WW2 and Witcher.

eh you've travelled though to countries that don't beat up gay-looking twinks on site, you don't represent the typical westerner as faggoty as you are.

the average westerner still is incredibly ignorant, and unwilling to learn about other countries due to their hubris. in some cases places like germany seem less like this since they tend to undergo self-criticism as a culture, but the french and english and dutch and so-on still feel above others.

we're not that ignorant of central/eastern Europe. They emigrated here just like Western Europeans did. We only know less about them because they were behind the iron curtain so long. People don't know shit about the Balkans but that's true in Western Europe too.

Do Americans know they're protecting us from Russia for fuck all in return?

there's nothing you can do to really stop it. you have virtually no diplomatic impact and people don't take the french seriously anymore. people only care about the big players or ones with serious diplomatic punch, e.g. us and china, russia, japan and now india.

its sad, but the only place people still listen to you is turbo-impoverished african countries that speak your language. even then, they are red-pilled and already balancing themselves with other powers.

I thank Poland for allowing my jew ancestors to be jews but I don't appreciate how they turned on us when Hans told them to. Still a huge fan eastern europe, I hope you will prosper.

Most people who hate Poles are Poles themselves.

t. used to work for a Polish company

>eh you've travelled though to countries that don't beat up gay-looking twinks on site, you don't represent the typical westerner as faggoty as you are.

What ?

>Most people who hate Poles are Poles themselves
Because they too interact with Poles. Also it's not the most, majority of Poles are pretty nationalistic, those who aren't usually step from the crowd and want to be noticed by playing a total retard and autist and spewing hate on the country/people, which is seen on Jow Forums very well.

I'm taking the neutral view from there.

Most people who dislikes Poles are non-Poles, they are usually British and working class.

>t. used to work for a Polish company

Glad you've taken the experience of polish business "culture" and working standards in polish company.

>Glad you've taken the experience of polish business "culture" and working standards in polish company

They are hard working for sure, but they can be bitter and spiteful as fuck at one another over the most petty things, which just makes everything unpleasant. What's wrong with being nice ?

Also older people seem resistant to change even if the way they currently work is inefficient.

We didn't even qualify and we have more niggers.

>they turned on us when Hans told them to

Literally a lie invented by Jews to demand reparation shekels.

Poles never collaborated with Germans. And the tiny minority that did was hunted down by the Home Army.

Americans are the most friendly people I've ever met, during my summer stay in US work&travel programm when I was looking for another job than at the GAP clothes store one famiy invited me to stay with them for a while. I stayed there for 3 months, I was welcomed in next two summers as well, I have experienced US family life which was as great as Polish family life is. My American friends visited me twice as well. It was 3 years ago though and I miss it so much.
PS
Germans are very friendly as well

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>They are hard working for sure, but they can be bitter and spiteful as fuck at one another over the most petty things, which just makes everything unpleasant. What's wrong with being nice ?

Sorry but in Poland (in 100% polish company) you have to work not being "nice" it's not like somebody else is going to waste their life so the boss can afford a new brand new car and then sell the company to the foreign owner.

There is a thing in polish business the level of slave work, slave wages and ultra-high demands and qualifications by the boss. Because you have to work hard because he made his business not because we wants to expand/innovate, but only because he want to get rich in short amount of time.

It's the western companies that brought civilized working standards here and treated employers better, better and more relaxed atmospere etc.

They are like a gift.

Neither of them wanted to erase anyone and they certainly never advocated any totalitarianism. In fact they opposed both russian authoritarian communism and german nazism.

Instead "erasure" of cultures and bloodlines are specialty of nationalists, with the less morally bankrupt ones claiming willingness to limit their purges and purity enforcement to confines of their own country.

It’s not like every westerner will hate Eastern European. But there will be incidents, mainly from the lower class. Some people can even try to protect easterner but at the end they will not care that much, but the bully will be doing it with determination.

Yeah Americans are ok for Slavs because Slavs are white. They have such hateful behavior for people of color tho :P

This is a common problem with entrepreneurs here as well. Another consequence of communism which completely eradicated any people who had both ambition and integrity out of economic ecosystem, which means that people with zero moral backbone were the most cunning and experienced in management and so best suited to take over the economy. And thanks to their success, they became a role model for the new generation of businessmen.

Although that's not to say that there are no decent entrepreneurs around. Maybe it's even majority. But even among the ones who hold themselves to higher standards reluctance to scam and cheat seems relaxed compared to what you'd probably expect in a civilized country. Honesty is more of a pleasant surprise than a baseline to be expected.

It's not really a reason of communism as a system or ideology, because it has less impact on us than most of us think. We think well "communist mentality" although something like this doesn't exist.

What caused such pathology was lack of capital (private national one) obviously it was caused by communism, but that was structural thing and not mentality inherited from it.

People just had to make thier business from scrath and mainly they tried it because they wanted to have a good life (otherwise they wouldn't make themselves busy with this) then the western capital came in with already developed chain and they lured the workers by the higher standards of work, because they simply could afford it.

That's a problem of eastern europe that is unsolvable. We will be always slaves of western capital, because being slave of western capital is still better than being a slave of local greedy busineses.

That's harsh reality and that mentality doesn't disappear after crossing the border, it stays, because people are unaware of how things work there in the west, hence Poles are like slave workers in the west and they are praised for that.

Yeah, this is very true. I have to manage company after my parents, and there was much of fear, aggression and pessimism in company structure. Every manager was a tyrant who didn’t cared about the people, didn’t even knew how to talk to them so they disposed job with shouting and aggression. I had to fire some of them, I couldn’t help them, as it doesn’t work like that in capitalism, and it was too late for some of them to learn. The company was stuck because nobody trusted nobody. Right now it is better, people feel more safe and secure, we started some new projects, and try to keep going forward.

I agree with some of your points, but still think you underestimate structural impacts of the way education and system molded general populace's thinking patterns. I'm not saying that the state was successful with some sort of social engineering - the attempts that were made, while not without effect, did not create a human drone the comrades probably wanted. But it did eradicate traditions and values that might have otherwise been developing.

But I disagree that either that, or the lack of domestic capital you raise, are unsolvable problems. The former I think will mend on its own if the society will consider virtues like truthfulness, fairness, honouring one's word etc to be such, be it from intellectual philosophers or from the church. How quickly the latter is fixed depends on both recovery of the society itself - and what follows, ability and willingness of local entrepreneurs to build, develop and not embezzle - and by how well the state institutions can set up the environment to ensure that upright behaviour is not hindered by gray economy or skewed regulations.

Yeah, you got the point, but it could be too late, and the West could flood us with their influence. And we cold be for some time the slaves of western corporations till people will not learn how to operate in capitalism. This is what I fear of, and there is not much time for us to learn on our own I fear.

Help me anons, what could the bong have meant by this?

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>But it did eradicate traditions and values that might have otherwise been developing.
Depends where. In Poland majority remained conservative and didn't buy communist propaganda or ideals as they were seen like occupiers, except for some regions in western Poland majority of Poland is very conservative.

>I disagree that either that, or the lack of domestic capital you raise, are unsolvable problems
We could always follow the Belarus path of 100% national and live in Belarusian well being.

The truth is western companies brought better standards, more technology and more competition that pushed the greedy polish busineses to compete and innovate and also have a different attitude to worker, but the differecne is still noticeable. You just go to a supermarket the polish owned one is always more expensive than the foreign.

He didn’t mean traditions in such way, xenophobic and closed. He meant traditions of cooperation, free thinking, creativeness and self responsibility

>He meant traditions of cooperation, free thinking, creativeness and self responsibility

Sorry but this is bullshit, most compains about polish businesses are about how selfish they are, they for sure know what is self responsibility.

All you had to do was not throw a revolution for a 10 year period.

I didn’t understand well what you wrote, but selfishness and responsibility doesn’t match at all.

There is a lot of selfishness in ranks of Polish companies, but no one cares about what will happen in few years ahead. They will go and work somewhere else, maybe in Poland maybe in Germany. It works like that with HQ and the same is on lower levels.

I don't look down on them, in fact I appreciate the progress they have made to counter the decades of soviet oppression.

>I didn’t understand well what you wrote, but selfishness and responsibility doesn’t match at all.

It's more like you don't know what are you writing, since you have a troubles with understanding terms.

>but selfishness and responsibility doesn’t match at all.
They do match, very much so.

You see user, this is why you don’t have a girlfriend. You don’t know what responsibility is.

You do something, you take responsibility for this. When you will succeed you take the consequences for yourself, this is right, but when you will fuck up, you as well take the consequences on yourself (this is where selfishness ends)

Selfishness is a domain of kids, responsibility is a domain of grown up person. Learn the differences. It will be useful for you.

Self responsibility is when you place the goals on your own, and judge yourself on your own, but you don’t abuse the system of judgement you created for yourself. If you can do this, you can be a good leader, who can judge rightfully not only your people but yourself as well. Then you will get respect.

>You see user, this is why you don’t have a girlfriend. You don’t know what responsibility is.
Yes, I do not have a girlfriend and what. I perfectly know what responsibility is more than you 16 year old ponytale with acne.

>ou do something, you take responsibility for this. When you will succeed you take the consequences for yourself, this is right, but when you will fuck up, you as well take the consequences on yourself
Why are you keeping explaining the known facts? We're talking about polish business not about your gigantic responsibility and your only life achievement of having a burden called a girfriend, which you couldn't hesistate not to brag about.

>Selfishness is a domain of kids
Selfishness is a domain of most adults, I see you have to grow up. World is different when you're older than 16 years.

>Self responsibility is when you place the goals on your own, and judge yourself on your own
No that is also what can be called a selfishness because the main focuse of yourself is your person.

I suggest you learning a bit of english and learn what a meaning of "selfishness" is.

>Americans are the most friendly people I've ever met

Americans are nice to anyone who they find white silly Polack

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