Who do you Brits consider your best ally, America, Europe, or some other state/group of states?

Who do you Brits consider your best ally, America, Europe, or some other state/group of states?

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>Caring what Trump thinks about your trade deal

Portugal is literally our only real ally.

The rest of you are crab mentality-having bastards who've doomed the world.

>Trutt did it because of soft Brexit
Not really. He was trying to fuck Bongs before that.

>Contrary to the rhetoric, the Trump administration has pursued a predatory policy toward Britain designed to capitalize on the UK’s need for new trading arrangements after Brexit. The United States has sought to exact painful concessions that it was unable to secure when Britain negotiated as a member of the EU.

>The Trump administration helped block an agreement between London and Brussels on its agricultural quotas in the World Trade Organization. It has offered Britain a worse deal on the Open Skies Agreement than it currently has as an EU member. Senior Trump administration officials have made it clear that it will insist the UK adopt many U.S. regulations as a condition for an FTA, even though this would necessarily limit Britain’s ability to negotiate a trade deal with the remaining 27 members of the EU. Some demands, like access to the National Health Service for U.S. firms, would be especially controversial in the UK.
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Imagine being the leader of the free world, flying in a V22 Osprey over Buckingham and shitting on the PM who invites you in The FUCKING Sun tabloïd.

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>And it’s not just Brexit. Trump has ignored London’s counsel on strategic issues, such as the Iran nuclear deal, which the British desperately have tried to save. He has also repeatedly interfered in British politics. He retweeted a member of the far right Britain First party. He criticized the May government and the Mayor of London Sadiq Khan for being soft on terrorism. He has repeatedly praised and spoken with Nigel Farage, a fringe critic of the May government.
>Politico

for the most part this is all just really biased

Putin's puppet

>undermining Theresa May means undermining Britain
If this helps oust her, it'll be one of the few entirely good things the yanks have ever done for us.

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>If they do a deal like that, we would be dealing with the European Union instead of dealing with the UK, so it will probably kill the deal
he is entirely right

Yeah, why would american republicans try to push some monsanto shit and baby formula. Unheard-of.

america is as much a threat to europe and the west as isis and islamic terrorism

>le special relationship
yea fuck off

more. we can actually blow you all up

Between us and Russia, we have enough nukes to destroy the entire world hundreds of times over. It's really spooky when you stop and think about it.

>Trump advises May to listen to British voters
>she doesn't
>as a consequence America would be unable to have an independent trade deal with Britain which can't do a deal without the EU
>user gets angry at America

why?

Monsanto no longer exists, tho.

>Accused EU leaders of destroying its culture and identity by allowing in millions of migrants
wow he really does lurk on Jow Forums

Oh, don't act so surprised. You should know of their treacherous nature better than anyone.

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You guys were the ones that came up with that meme to begin with. We've always considered ourselves the one wearing the pants in the relationship.

>america is as much a threat to europe and the west as isis and islamic terrorism

Much much worse. So many idiots in the West are brainwashed with American far right conspiracy theories and propaganda.

Allowing Eastern Europe into the EU was a mistake.

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Trump is doing it all for show. The UK is close of an ally by now it is literally indepensable. The UK has access to America's deepest secrets via intelligence sharing and the level of military integration is unprecedented between any two countries in history. We both know America can't afford to make an enemy of the UK

>Changing a large portion of a countries demographics has no effect on said country or its culture.

t.:bigthinking@urlife:

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>lecturing other cunts about culture while we have none

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you do wear the pants but when you provide us with all your latest thermonuclear weapons we like to think you might trust us a little

You're more dependant on them than they are on you, so that's why they can treat you like this yet you'll still come barking as soon as they pat their knee.

the commonwealth
fuck yanks and continentals

the commonwealthers have always been good lads, which is surprising considering how much we shafted their economies when we first joined the EU

but they're on the other side of the planet, so their effectiveness as allies is limited at best

Lol, UK won't even have nukes soon. Brexit and Trump were fucking bullseyes by SVR. Not even happy but this alt-russia low IQ clusterfuck really fucked us all and good.

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Looks like they have to choose either solid trade relations with the U.S. or with the EU, but not both.

Which is more beneficial in the long run?

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But we can roll our eyes when they think they can bully us when they have so many enemies that theyh wouldn't need one of their oldest allies. Half of American defence projects have British scientists. The CIA and MI5 openly share incrediblyh sensitive information. We could fuck them if we fell out.

The EU by a wide margin

>americans seriously believe they don't have any culture
holy shit did the mutt memes really cut that deep?

we need to go back to a senior advisory / junior muscle relationship. a completely unleashed US foreign policy won't be good for the world

All win to Trump. CIA is part of the deep state.

I honestly think that the commenwealth will form again while France and Germany get fucked in the ass by everyone through the EU and eastern Europe.

in the long run the UK will cease to exist if it remains in the EU.

the eventual goal is a European superstate. whether or not you think that's desireable is up to you.

everyone maneuvering away from america. when did it all fall apart

A United States of Europe doesn't sound all that bad desu. I'd much rather have it over China or Russia becoming hegemon

It can't maintain strong trade with the EU without being incorporated into it?

EU could be nothing but win for everyone if al the accords were taken seriously.

It got to the people who eat too much soy

yanks don't have accents either

In the long run we all cease to exists. Sun will eat us sooner or later. Sure sounds like some soyshit but have some pragmatism, mein neger.

That's desirable when you are ruled by funny guys and liberals like Junker & Co but what the fuck happend when eastern countries, Germany start to voting more and more far right representatives at the EU ?

I follow the Nigel line on that one.

Whilst in the EU, the UK cannot make trade deals on it's own. This is done by the EU. But the US is already one of the UK's top trading partners anyway

>eastern europe shitholes.png
>his country is one of the easternmost in Europe

nah, not really. not without becoming a vassal state that has no say in EU affairs.

your forefathers would be ashamed, Pekka

So Britain will become the Puerto Rico of the United States of Europe?

About what?

May is an absolute disaster. Time for a new PM.

CAN'T BIN THE 'BYN

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Is there any chance of the UK becoming a vassal state for the US?

why do brits underestimate their power so much in the eu? aren't you guys a part of the big three

It's pretty scummy how he's directly involving himself in all of his allies internal matters. The EU/UK trade deal doesn't even involve America in any way. The thing is, there currently isn't a major way this could backfire on him. America is still geographically isolated, can project a lot of power and has nothing to lose in trade anyway. We might be looking at a massive global recession though.

american culture
>guns
>undying love for a piece of cloth
>jesus
>fast food
>high fructose corn syrup
>unhealthy obsession with soldiers
>capitalism cucks
>eating laundry detergent

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shit culture is still culture

They were from the beginning very Euroskeptic, the Berlin wall didn't fell yet when Germany and France started making true peace about WW2 and started constructing a politicial alliance.

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that's the way things are looking right now, yeah

we don't have much influence on the continent, don't ask me why, I have no idea, we've just never had any success with the continentals

british culture
>oi m8 bin that knoife
>transgender lesbian priests
>flying the england flag is racist
>oi paki rape my sister please
>shit food and beer
>oi m8 I wish the queen would shit on my face
>jumping off spanish balconies
>FOOTBALL'S COMING HOME (it isn't)
>bagpipes and haggis

not in the same way, no

idk, but Melania a cute, a CUTE!

I wish you would've stayed in the EU and tried to improve it from the inside, but I suppose there's no going back after the referendum

>we don't have much influence on the continent, don't ask me why, I have no idea,
maybe it was because you guys were too cocky in with your privileged access to the US. maybe if you guys started taking the EU seriously then you'd start to get treated seriously by the continentals

There is no such thing as an American culture. States and regions may have cultures, but there is no American culture.

Trump, farage, Johnson are all bought.

Putin really will win it. im not even a leftist, im a true conservative. Its about time the hegemony fell.

He flew in on an osprey?

>Trusting americans after they seceded, dismantled our empire and the suez crisis.

Truly the worst of times.

No he's just a leftie retard.

Yes. New Marine One I guess ?

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Itzanami itzanagi Japan aka zipangu

Hello

What about May?

We will always be nice allies

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We dont have allies, only interests. We will never forget what you did.

think trump has singlehandedly disproven that truism

shut up you cringe factory, our hands are hardly stainless

Mate you probably like being bullied by russia and the US, tons of brits are developing a cuck fetish.

How are we bullying Britain?

Pee

By peeing in their butts when they’re trying to poop

Even based Portugal takes its pound of flesh

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based

The one time I want it to crash

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Honest question.
How do Brexiteers feel right now?

hoping may gets removed and someone else who actually knows what they are doing gets in
also hoping that may can't strike up a vassal state deal like she wants in time so we are left with no choice but a hard exit

>implying there's enough time life for that
Takes 4 months to get rid of May assuming a vote will take place.
By then you'd only have half a year to negotiate before leaving.
The EU most definitely won't give you extra time.

Took long enough to negotiate over the North Ireland border.

Or do you think that no deal would be better at this stage?

Honestly, her Dominions and her Commonwealth first. USA is a weird one because we have so much shared (and incomparable throughout recorded history) history. Legally. Culturally. We ARE closer to America, that's why we kick off everytime the bloody napoleanoists in brussels make some new faggot rules. USA is an extension/mutation of Britain.. Of course we are closer culturally to them than the jobsworth continental nazi faggots.

It was the Podestas.

Based Britain. Please don't become the Puerto Rico of the United States of Europe. ;_;

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Completely vindicted / cucked. I could copy and paste an email with my concerns before the vote where I pretty much voiced this current scenario as the worst case.
I was a big backer of Leadsom in the Tory leadership election, not because of her competency but just because she actually backed the fucking vote.

The whole thing is a joke. How can you with a straight face and sound mind look back at the EU's effect on our European Nations over the 20-odd years it's been around, and say that cunts like Barnier, Juncker, Vehofstat etc. and say these people REPRESENT THE EUROPEAN PEOPLES is beyond me. Love Europe, hate the EU, simple as.

No deal FTW.

no, the PM can be removed and replaced by her party in a day

Poor Brits, it's a shame that they have to court the USA and their president who looks down on them. They could have been a highly respected country with equal rights (even some special rights) in our 'shitty' union. Now they will be a piece of dogshit from everybody especially trump.

We have faced off the entire continent before and we will again.
Again. how can these (((people))) say we, Europeans, are the same as a fucking Paki, when Irish and Brits are genetically indistinguishable and we have been at war for hundreds of years...
Desu I'm half inclined to believe that we are ruled by nazi accelarationists false flagging as utopian socialist/commiefags, because how else can you be this fucking incompetent and blatently obvious in your propoganda efforts

EU isn't going to last another 5 years so who gives a shit

>and their president who looks down on them
he just wants to be loved ;_;

Why did Theresa invite him? Seriously all the man has ever done is insult and degrade her while Corbyn gains influence in the background as for some reason Trump seems too scared or unaware to attack him.

Trumps mother was a Gaelic speaker from Skye. His father was of German stock.
You can't really read into that, but if I was going to I would say I would expect him to be rather anti-English in his sentiment, where he appears to actually be the opposite?
He dislikes the supra-national organisations (EU, NATO, UN) and favours bi-lateral agreements, which sets le NWO back somewhat, so no wonder the media shill so hard against him. And since our Govt are the ultimate backers of such policy, no wonder he has a bone to pick with them.

But Trump seems to genuinely like the British (including English) peoples.

Look man, I’m multilateral and don’t hold a lot of Americana values, but you can’t honestly believe this? You have needed us to do your MI6/5 level surveilling. We can afford to make an enemy out of you, infact we can make an enemy out of anyone. We just can’t make an enemy out of everyone, but we’re sure as shit making our way there.

I appreciate all the military integration having served in The Army and, and overseas, and appreciated you guys having our backs all the time.

That being said, we don’t need you. You are largely dispensable by most accounts, push comes to shove. And now that you’re out of EU, what leverage do you hold? You’re on your own with no channels.

Deepest secrets? Cmon, don’t make me laugh. Still coming from someone who has nothing but support for you guys. Always liked all the Brits I’ve ever met.

Get a grip dude, you sound pathetic.

What? Trump loved (loves?) Britain. May and the lefties in Britain threw it back in his face.