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xth for [spoiler]shift s NUT[/spoiler]
oh right can't spoiler on Jow Forums
I've been literally reading all day yesterday just so I could finally finish the 3rd volume of 星界の紋章
I-I'm allowed to take a break now, right guys? right?
nein
もう勘弁してくれないか
いや
しばくぞ
まさか、休まないと壊れちゃうよ、自殺行為にほかならない
それ分かる?
構わん
お前の目を朽ち果てるまで読ませる
hmm that shouldn't be を, oh well
酷い
but seriously though, I'll do some anki and watch animu, but that's about it for today
incidentally, my half sister is due in berlin for 3 days
shes going on some walk tour, is there anything else of note
Should be “が”, indeed.
I get punished everytime I try and talk because I never know if its intransitive or not..
tell her not to relax around gypsies
pickpockets yeah
八苦:
生まれる
老ける
病気する
死ぬ
好き人を失うのこと
嫌い人を会うのこと
欲しい事をありませんのこと
日本語を出来ないのこと
>日本語を出来ないのこと
ありがとう!
責め苦になりました。
I learned hiragana and katakana in 4 days, how long will kanji take?
you can't "learn" kanji, and you haven't learned hiragana/katakana
you've just memorised a few scribbles that you will forget in a week's time unless you force yourself to keep interpreting scribbles
I bet I know hirakata better than you
Draw them all without looking to see what they look like
フワフワしためぬきどおりのさきで
シカツもんだいにのめぬさけをあおる
Could you convert this into alphabets without seeing your textbook?
Reading is easier, I remember all of them when I see them but remembering them is a bit harder.
fu ra fu ra shi ta me nu ki do o ri no sa ki de
shi ka tsu mo n da i ni no me nu sa ke wo a o ru
>I forgot some of the easiest ones
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
31/33
>ワ=wa ラ=ra
Good retention though.
Just proceed.
>31/33
>how long will kanji take?
You could prove your genius if you achieve common 2000 (not only pronunciationS but also meaningS for each) within one year.
Would you like to be like him?
No
>tfw it takes me 2 hours of rewinding to get through 10 minutes of audio
急に書き込みが少なくなったな…
>not giving up in pure frustration after 1 hour and only 3 minutes in.
Show-off
I'm perfectly fine with what i'm listening to until this drogan starts talking
Guys I want to learn this fucking language in the fastest way possible. What the fuck do I need to do to accomplish such a feat? I want personal success stories so I can get inspired.
>success stories
lole
wrong thread for that
鷹
>wrong thread for that
夜鷹
>night eagles
your biggest concern should be whether you make it at all or not
marry a japanese girl who knows zero english and zero brazillian portugeuse or whatever, and live in the japanese countryside where you have no choice but to learn japanese
Can someone translate this for me please?
...
Ho-Ho
HY! I am owl language teacher Ho!
I will help you learn language
now is the time ,rearrange some words in a correct order Ho
"は", "です", "わたし", "にんげん","。"
I saw two Scandinavian posters here one built 15,000 vocabulary within 2 years and another attained considerable proficiency mostly only by watching megatons of anime.
So as the conclusion, you should live norther part of Europe as much as you could.
Play eroge with one hand and mine words with the other. You will master japanese within a year in this way.
一年以上勉強してきたのに、文法の練習のためになかなか何も書きないから、この文には間違いがたくさんあるかもと思いますね。もっと練習しなきゃ。。
Unironically him: youtube.com
He got me into it and I'm progressing well
It's a good plan but you will be embarrassingly bad at Japanese within a year no matter what you do.
You can't learn Japanese fast. What you need is vast amounts of patience.
Kek
He has a shit personality but meh pretty good looking imo
Doing good though.
But
>文法の練習のためになかなか何も書きないから
It is passable, but it may sound like
>you write little in order to have grammar exercise.
Writing little and training your grammar are inconsistent, so you'd rather say like
>文法の練習のために"なる事を"なかなか何も書かないから
>I don't write something to be my grammar exercise so often
>But even natives would say in that matter like "家族のためになかなか働こうとしない" though.., however the latter sounds more clear I think.
and you stumbled upon an inflection
>書きない should be 書かない
others are perfect.
>About one year
You could show off your achievement to that Brazilian.
pic.
t. bothered writing the kana down.
After learning them all in a week, it took me over 5 years to start forgetting them.
cool story
>never bothered
Fix'd.
?
Of what?
14時間寝た
寝直しなさい
ううん
なんでそんなに銀英伝好きなの?
二度寝でもいいよ?
寝るの事はいいですけど今日は働いています
仕事はクソですよ
偉いなあ
Saving this thread with ignorance.
>預けられ
Why is there no る at the end?
the sentence basically ends with an "and" by using 連用形 here... the rest of the sentence is left ambiguous on purpose
漫画とアニメ翻訳者になりたいので日本語能力試験に合格しなくていけません
Alright, does anyone know what ごりゅごりゅ means? Looking it up returns a lot of porn sites. Based on context I'm guessing something like "mashing against" or "pressing on" but hoping someone can nail it down properly
Huh, I had just read that section.
>日本語を学べない
Even this took some time to write up.
Why do they make it so hard.
>ごりゅごりゅ
>I haven’t seen that phrase before though.
Conjecturing that with my scientific knowledge, what you saw should be something like
>子宮がごりゅごりゅにちゅぶされちゃってりゅのおおお!!
then the meaning should be just as what you guessed.
>"mashing against" or "pressing on"
You can "learn" kanji in about 3 months with the heisig anki deck, and if you maintain doing your flash cards every single day, they stay pretty well. However, this is really only useful to prime your brain for when you see the kanjis in the wild, because while you can recognize and write the kanjis, you have no idea how to read them or what the actual vocabs mean. That being said, this priming process is pretty valuable, because it makes later learning quicker.
I have some Japanese books that I want to digitize and add to the cornocopia of resources. Any suggestions on the best way to scan them, clean them up, and then where to send them once I'm done?
How long is Hiragana supposed to take to learn?
2 days
Should I learn using an App or by paper/pencil? Is learning how to write the hiragana important if I only want to read/understand Japanese?
doesn't have to be app but at some point you probably want to learn how to use a flashcard app like anki
yes learning to write is important, especially for the hiragana
So for Hiragana I should practice by writing out? I know about using Anki for kanji later on
>Muh app shit
Every time
PAPER AND PENCIL
Stroke order is important for reading, if you encounter someone with a horrible writing style the stroke order will save your ass usually. It also makes the runes look nicer. You don't have to worry about it that much yourself if your writing looks good, especially when a different stroke order fits you better, but it's worth keeping in mind.
a few days maybe, it doesn't really matter though
>So for Hiragana I should practice by writing out?
yes
If I am of relatively average intelligence how much Japanese do you think I'd be able to read/understand in 6 months? I can devote 2 hours a day
Dunno I just started lmao
Which books?
Use 300 DPI and DjVu-file format. Try a few test pages (spread across the books) to see the results. Quality isn't really that important (other than making sure the pages are straight and not too faded or dark (contrast matters, particularly for kanji legibility) and properly focused - a decent scanner will do just fine. When you're done upload to mega or someplace and email the link to itazuraneko (link is in OP, address is in site's top left corner).
Learn by whatever gets you to learn them.
>Is learning how to write the hiragana important if I only want to read/understand Japanese?
No, it's more than likely you'll only ever type Japanese, and never actually write it. On the other hand, it's not *that* hard (the kana, that is).
there are different schools of thought as to how much preliminary study to do. studying some things now can save significant work later, but it depends to some degree what level you eventually hope to reach (just speaking, just reading, reading and writing)
with two hours a day for 6 months I think you should aim to do rtk1 (6th edition) and core 2k and towards the end you should be able to start doing a fair bit of real content
I'm only interested in reading/understanding (listening) enough Japanese to buy Weeb stuff and order at restaurants
then like I said, I'd be doing rtk and core 2k
う うん, not to be mistaken with ううん.
クソコテはmjd死ね
きめぇ
This happens because people don't know how to transcribe direct speech
>Mangajin
くっそなついなおい
I'd recommend using anki even for hiragana and katakana. Have the sound on one side, and the character on the other, and have a notebook in front of you and write it out physically. Do this every morning and you'll build up a good habit that will pay itself off when you move onto kanji and vocab.
And it's worth remembering, unless it's perfect, it doesn't count, so mark it as missed. People have a habit of saying "Well, I knew it should have been like that, I just messed up" which holds them back.
I found a copy of Common Japanese Collocations by Kakuko Shoji, along with various books that I picked up when I was visiting Japan. Weird stuff like a Japanese Players handbook for Dungeons and Dragons.
Can you recommend a deck?
Do you guys know a good ebook/pdf reader that works with Japanese and supports furigana? I'm trying to read harry potter but SumatraPDF and calibre fuck it up