What does it take to have them leave Europe forever and never have to deal with them again?

If France hadn't meddled in the Americas they may have ended up a Canada-like nation of tobacco planters. Then you completely shit the bed in 1939 and all but ensured a free France necessitated an American Europe. Being French I don't expect you to own up to your mistakes but I'd at least think you'd be aware of them.

Let France be mentally strong enough to deal with Germans so Americans can put more effort on ruining South Americans, Chinese, Russians, middle east and ASEAN cunts

>frenchie can't even reply properly

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You both shit the bed. We told you there had to be an intervention into Germany before they finish arming up but you chamberlain'd it up.

Europe went from being the undisputed masters of earth to a collection of second, third, and even no- rate powers so quickly

Honestly, you shit the bed by developing polish nationalism and taking clay that was bound to make the germans revanchist

This, stuck head in sand. Now USA has to fix all the problems because no one wants to deal with them. History will be kind to pax-americana

Or at least stop threatening to genocide everyone every few generations.

Our regime was literally a heavily left leaning mutlikulti centralist republic trying to play off the PL Commonwealth, you ignorant pleb

You don’t get what he is referring to, are you? Or why this unrelated comment that misses his point?

>You don’t get what he is referring to, are you?
Your "reasons" are literally irrelevant. The primary catalyst for what happened in Germany was the crushing dept that France and UK saddled it with. Then they refused to manage you.

In the Great Plain you either cover a lot of territory or you lose, there are no barriers to lean on. Ask Russians, they'll tell you. And a w/o a port we'd be hobbled. Don't try to moralfag after the partitions. My argument was wholly pragmatic, Europe would be spared a world war if they came in and disarmed Hitler earlier.

I think Hitler was forced to intervene to dismantle Polish death camps.

Is that what happened? I can't quite remember.

Germans need to stop trying to genocide Slavs.

based
correct, the whole world was watching our civil war and waiting for us to disintegrate

>We told you there had to be an intervention into Germany before they finish arming up but you chamberlain'd it up.
LOL Polish revisionism at its best.
You joined with Hitler in stealing lands from the Czechs and it was POLAND who prevented action against Germany before that.

On 22 May, Juliusz Łukasiewicz, the Polish ambassador to France, told the French Foreign Minister Georges Bonnet that if France moved against Germany in defense of Czechoslovakia: "We shall not move." Łukasiewicz also told Bonnet that Poland would oppose any attempt by Soviet forces to defend Czechoslovakia from Germany. Daladier told Jakob Surits, the Soviet ambassador to France: "Not only can we not count on Polish support but we have no faith that Poland will not strike us in the back."[16]

guts to stand up and a clear vision of what europe want

>implying that it’s still being tried

remove (((them))) and your upper enchelon consist of ((((them)))) proxies

When we can keep Russians at bay on our own.

You have to go back.

Ah yes, european logic

>fuck up in WWII and get demolished by the Germans
>USA PLEASE COME SAVE OUR ASSES
>Yanks do exactly that
>WTF why are there american troops in Europe they have no right to be here

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Russian logic :

rescue people = enslave them

You didn't expect them to save you out of the kindness of their hearts, did you?

kys libtard, how come one based trump can cause so much butthurt in commies?

I bet you've seen that French imperialist propaganda that said colonization = civilization

I wasn't born and I'm not used to LARP as a country.

All I know is that I don't want Americans nor Russians in Europe.

I wonder if there were any Russian divers rescuing those thai kids. "You belong to me now muahhawhawhaw."

Well nobody pretends that colonization is freedom nowadays and I was born decades after the end of the colonial empire, so your point?

We're probably just going to leave Europe anyway. American FP is too unwieldy to work with right now. It needs an across-the-board reset.

Europe paying for its own military.
I hope you're not a NEET, because your social welfare is about to be cut to pay for it.

For the record, I think the UK and France would be able to weather the change well. It's Germany and Eastern Europe that would probably immediately become Russian/Turkish/whatever invader.

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part 2 electric boogaloo

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I'd rather it be kind to our budget tbqh

Becomes bffs with China and Russia

this. euros are so far up their own ass

>It needs an across-the-board reset.
This is my favorite reset button. It should have been used on Moscow right after Nagasaki

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>I hope you're not a NEET, because your social welfare is about to be cut to pay for it.
Or, y’know, we just won’t bother with it. Remind me, when’s the last time a nuclear power was invaded?

Russia never commited a genocide

Genocide, democide, same thing ...

Second worst country in terms of monstrous behavior (after the USA) post-WWII. You can’t be proud of that, c’mon.

>Remind me, when’s the last time a nuclear power was invaded?
Did a lot of good for Ukraine.
Gotta love European acquiescence to Russia shitting in its backyard.

Then again Mexico is a worthless shithole that we've never bothered rectifying, so we really should get on that

french people hate english
its a miracle hes even doing it in english

>Remind me, when’s the last time a nuclear power was invaded?
French nukes are not under EU jurisdiction and probably will never be. Your country, in contrast, is allergic to the mere word "nuclear" and did its best to destroy your nuclear program and plants since Fukushima.

Because we all know Germany's going to get hit by hurricanes and earthquakes...

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The reason we're so fucked up is because of slaves, injuns, and the lack of a proper upper class.

>Did a lot of good for Ukraine.
>nuclear power
Alright, user.

>rectifying Mexico
I mean ... you fucked it up in the first place sooo ...

>USA completely withdraws from Europe
>A year an a half later they beg us to return when they all start slaughtering each other again

We might as well just stay there

We're not fucked up, our economy is fine, our culture is fine, our youth is fine

>I wasn't born

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Mexico was a shithole long before we were even a country

>you fucked it up in the first place sooo ...
We fuck up countries that declare war on us, very consistently. You should try it sometime. I mean again, a third time.

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I know that Americlaps have a hard time grasping this but Germany is a loooooot smaller than the USA and the problem of nuclear waste disposal is a serious problem here.

I get that y’all do not give a fuck about that because you can just bury it in the desert somewhere (not that you actually are, you just have it lying around). But that luxury is not one afforded to us.

Anyway, so you’re suggesting that France and the UK would just sit by if the heartland got invaded and, if nothing else, their investments in all those countries got nationalized by the gopniks?

You also love your wars of aggression, the supreme international crime according to the Nuremberg Trials.

Actually, you clearly like this evil even more than Germany, looking at your record :^)

>I know that Americlaps have a hard time grasping this but Germany is a loooooot smaller than the USA and the problem of nuclear waste disposal is a serious problem here.
You have similar population and territory size compared to France, and the French are not incompetent. They even store it in Europe, so don't use "muh French overseas departments" excuse.

bbc.com/news/science-environment-26425674

Germany is quite simply incompetent at nuclear technology and its population is frighteningly uneducated on the topic. It's okay to admit it. Just stop being retards is all I'm asking. You're right next door to France, learn from them.

They “store” it. That you even use this word means you are either ignorant of the issue or dishonest. Nowhere in there world is there an actual Endlager yet.

Also, it is not a lack of education that is behind the dislike for nuclear power. On the opposite.

Only an imbecile still roots for nuclear power plants today. They cost billions, take years to build and are already losing in price per kilowatt to renewables. A trend that will only continue from here on.

Shut up, nigger.

>are already losing in price per kilowatt to renewables

You know it's not true. Otherwise why would you need to buy Russian gas when we don't with our nuclear plants?

It's not feasible to switch from nuclear to renewable without having to burn fossil fuel for decades.

Cuck

>You also love your wars of aggression
Of course we do, which is why I differentiated the outcome in my post

Americans win wars that are declared by others. This bucket includes the Mexican-American War, WW1 and WW2.
In contrast we tend to win aggressive wars but fail miserably at occupying and nation-building. This includes the Vietnam War, Iraq War, and Afghanistan (not that any empire has held Afghanistan very long).

The one war I actually have and would apologize about was the Spanish-American War, which was not only aggressive but it was predicated on a lie. You're not Spanish though, so you can fuck right off.

Meanwhile German history boils down to Prussia continually provoking western ex-HRE provinces and after unification, continually provoking France. What better way to forge relations than to harass your neighbor at every turn!

>The one war I actually have and would apologize about was the Spanish-American War, which was not only aggressive but it was predicated on a lie. You're not Spanish though, so you can fuck right off.

I'd be more than happy to give them Puerto Rico back, although I don't think they'd want it.

>A trend that will only continue from here on.
I'm sure it will, but it also won't matter jack shit unless you invent magic batteries. Then again maybe you Germans would be fine not having electricity at night, or pegging your mighty industry to the whims of bad wind

Nah we should keep our word on Puerto Rico. If we abandon them, all 3 successor states to the Spanish colonies (PR, Philippines, and Cuba) would have been betrayed by us

At the very least, we should modernize their utility grid and then leave.

>You know it's not true. Otherwise why would you need to buy Russian gas when we don't with our nuclear plants?
Okay, so you are just ignorant. I guess that is better than being dishonest. You do not know, for instance, that Germans primarily heat their homes with gas, not electricity. Nuclear power does not help with that.

First thing we do, let's nuke the Russians.

Man, you really ARE ignorant. No electricity at night? Industry not having power? What in the world are you on about? Are Americlaps truly this ill-informed? Aside from “battery” technology of the required scale already existing (e.g. PHES/PSH), Europe has a synchronous grid. The largest in the world, in fact.

Oh, boohoo, one of these days Germany might not have enough power of their own for one second? Guess what, they just buy it from one of their many neighbors.

Who asked you, inmate?

Uh ... your point being? The U.S., thanks to its ez-pz spawn point, having attained hegemony and, as a result of that, not outright losing wars? Is that something you’re proud of? Sheesh. I bet you pat yourself on the back for winning video games on Easy mode, too.

>Guess what, they just buy it from one of their many neighbors.
Yeah responsible ones like France who use nuclear. Dependency is not something to be proud of -- it's the main reason why Africa is shit.

>Europe has a synchronous grid. The largest in the world, in fact.
Yes, and I hope to god it's protected well. If terrorists had sense in them and didn't drive trucks into Christmas markets and planes into trade skyscrapers, and actually attacked targets based on effectiveness and not sentimental value, they would attack centralized power grids. A network's greatest asset is also its greatest flaw.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_2003

This example is not even a terrorist attack, but a bug.

>Aside from “battery” technology of the required scale already existing (e.g. PHES/PSH),

It's funny you mention PHES because it'll run into the famous German incompetence issue of putting things underground, which you so-raged at me earlier:

qz.com/1133123/batteries-cant-solve-the-worlds-biggest-energy-storage-problem-one-startup-has-a-solution/

>There are just two problems when it comes to scaling up: First, it’s expensive to build. Even if the cost of construction and management were to come down, if cities and towns haven’t already planned for underground reservoirs (and most haven’t), then it can be prohibitively exorbitant to find and secure the space. Second, the solution only works at a local scale, because transporting heat comes with natural losses. So the farther you need to move it from the storage site, the more loss you have to deal with.

>The U.S., thanks to its ez-pz spawn point,
Ah yes, starving to death in a Massachusetts winter sounds like a fantastic spawn point for a country. It's not like Vinland vikings didn't immediately get destroyed by natives and weather either. Obviously the USA should be Scandinavian since it's so easy

>Uh ... your point being?
if you've backpedaled and moved the goalposts so many times you don't remember your original point, it might be a sign to stop posting

>Yeah responsible ones like France who use nuclear.
Eh, who cares? Autarky is for fucking retards. Hitler did not get that (synthesizing oil, LOL) and judging by Trump’s asinine trade policies he apparently doesn’t either. Mutually beneficial transactions are where it’s at, user.

>It's funny you mention PHES because it'll run into the famous German incompetence issue of putting things underground, which you so-raged at me earlier: [...]
tl;dr?

>Ah yes, starving to death in a Massachusetts winter sounds like a fantastic spawn point for a country. It's not like Vinland vikings didn't immediately get destroyed by natives and weather either. Obviously the USA should be Scandinavian since it's so easy
Oh boohoo, that’s because the dregs of society that made it over there were too dumb . Besides, those troubles barely even lasted a couple of decades. If the fucking drop-outs that made their way from Europe to America managed to overcome these “challenges” then you KNOW they had to be easy. Not that they didn’t need help from stone age savages to overcome even those puny hurdles ...

Nice attempt at a save, Americlap, but ultimately a failed one. You started by jerking off to the United States’ “prowess” at war and I responded by pointing out the moral bankruptcy of said activity. You then went on a weird, unrelated tangent about how wars that you start you fuck up but ones where you get attacked you “win”.

How this is at all relevant to my rebuttal you refused to explain so far.

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If you guys had made proper colonies, we would be the ones the US would be worried about and not you.

>What does it take to have them leave Europe forever and never have to deal with them again?
I mean, you could always have Americans leave Europe, fall right back into the clusterfuck of nation states and alliances of power balances reminiscent of the nineteenth century and try not to drag the Americans into the next war.

But we both know that wont happen. So until then, enjoy Americans giving you peace and assuring prosperity and all that.

Why do Frogs have inferiority complex towards Americans?

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Too many white flag jokes.

>But we both know that wont happen. So until then, enjoy Americans giving you peace and assuring prosperity and all that.
Actually believing this.

wew.tiff

Enjoy getting assraped by China, yardbird. And don’t let the dropbears catch you.