Suicide

Why is it okay to bring someone into this world regardless of the shitty circumstances but considered bad for someone to exit this world by their own volition?

Are we living in a prison matrix?

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>Why is it okay to bring someone into this world regardless of the shitty circumstances but considered bad for someone to exit this world by their own volition?
Normalfags be normalfagging to feel better about themselves

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suicide is bad?
and what are other people going to do to you? you'll be dead anyway.

this

suicide is the only real answer

>answer

"to be, or not to be? that is the question"

Sometimes, I lay awake at night, my bladder distended, and ponder the eternal question, "to pee, or not to pee?"

1 they don't bring "someone" into this world, they bring their hopes and dreams into this world, you just didn't turn out the way they imagined

2 murder is bad

Depends if you think living despite hardship is better than just giving up and ending it.
People who try and tell other people that they have absolutely no relation to whether or not they should be allowed to top themselves can fuck off though.

I don't know, when my wife started to want kids but wondered whether it would be reasonable or not, as cons she brought up responsabilities, and also whether or not the kids would have happy lives in an uncertain future.
I replied I believed life would be worth living even in a Mad Max 2 style of world, or else the silly buggers could always kill themselves if they weren't happy.

Parents' responsabilities are to provide a healthy environment for their children IMO, you can't decide for them to be happy. You give them life, ultimately they decide what to do with it.

>Depends if you think living despite hardship is better than just giving up and ending it.

That's largely Hamlet's monologue written with less talent. A Brit of all people could have copied & pasted...

Alas poor Yorick, I typed that with one hand while jerking with the other to some Brazilian thot, so I don't really give a fuck for eloquence.

People who want to commit suicide usually have the most retarded reasons for doing so. If you're in Ethiopia and having to get meals out of a cow's bottom, this would be a good reason while you're still strong enough to stand. No friends? This girl didn't talk to me today? People are teasing me? These are shit reasons. If it doesn't matter if you live or die, take some risks and enjoy yourself.

My brother had a crippling degenerative disease that had him in constant pain and housebound for almost 10 years, before he killed himself.
Was a pretty good reason, IMO.

You don't need any reasons to commit suicide. You need reasons to not do that.

As peoples' lives keep getting longer and longer as time passes, surely some very old folks who don't really enjoy anything anymore and are in discomfort or pain from old age (though being kept alive by modern medicine) will consider it.

suicide is pathetic. that's why niggers are invented in larger numbers.

Yeah, I would say so too. If you're not physically miserable, and capable of getting around, have fun with this. Take a train to France and go panhandle through Europe. Go skydiving. Climb Mount Everest or some shit.

I don't know, Hamlet does have a certain grandeur to himself. Brünnhilde commits suicide at the end of Götterdämmerung, too, to purify the world of evils by destroying it. I don't find it pathetic.
I do feel bad for her horse though ^^

I think this is fundamentally different though. In the US, you can chose not to be treated and go on hospice. They will give you morphine for the pain until you pass. I wouldn't consider this suicide.

>Take a train to France

Nah, he doesn't know his Shakespeare so he's useless as a Brit. We do have standards for our immigrants...

It's euthanasia, but really it's suicide with outside help.
Like samurai had an attendant ready to finish the job should they falter when performing seppuku.

You will only be alive for 80 years at max before you vanish forever into nothingness so commit suicide if you want it doesn't matter.

brunhilde and hamlet killed themselves for other reasons, guilt and lack of justice
either to end the cycle of violence or to keep some ethnic virtue/honor

these actions are done so people don't need to reinvent mythic self demise every single time, they are not individuals but place holders

Since you would be dead without medical help, I like to think of it as natural death with pain relief.

Same answer as with pretty other question regarding the meaning of life :

- if you have a god(s), ask him/them
- if you have a girl, ask her
- if you have neither, it doesn't matter

It isn't ok to bring others into this fucked up world, but getting out selfishly ins't moral either. You would harm countless people by killing yourself, more than you could even imagine. Having kids is still a dick move tho.

>Having kids is still a dick move tho.

Yeah, I remember I had to move my dick a lot when my wife decided to have kids.