Why can they never apologize for what they've done?

Russia is basically the America of Europe. You should stop advertising yourselves as Slavs too, because what you became through your biggest pride (the Soviet Union) is a pinky-yellow slant eyed race of digusting mutts. Some of the subhuman scum you sent here - you wouldn't imagine *shudders*. If you have untainted European genes, then that's more power to you, but if I look at your political elite, soldiers, celebrities etc, it becomes pretty obvious that the idea of some kind of a Russian racial purity went out of the window a long time ago. You had your chance to become European with Peter, but it's not him that you praise, but the Jewish Soviet Union that fucked up your country forever and even further mongrelized you with Central Asian dark hair/dark eyes and disgusting Mongol genes.

I visit Jow Forums daily just to enjoy another portion of Finno-Estonian butthurt.

Please don't stop

>I visit Jow Forums daily just to enjoy another portion of Finno-Estonian butthurt.
>
>Please don't stop

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>Russia is basically the America of Europe. You should stop advertising yourselves as Slavs too, because what you became through your biggest pride (the Soviet Union) is a pinky-yellow slant eyed race of digusting mutts. Some of the subhuman scum you sent here - you wouldn't imagine *shudders*. If you have untainted European genes, then that's more power to you, but if I look at your political elite, soldiers, celebrities etc, it becomes pretty obvious that the idea of some kind of a Russian racial purity went out of the window a long time ago. You had your chance to become European with Peter, but it's not him that you praise, but the Jewish Soviet Union that fucked up your country forever and even further mongrelized you with Central Asian dark hair/dark eyes and disgusting Mongol genes.

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Eh, the seps just assumed the Ukrainians would block airspace over Donbass but they didn't do that.

>shot down mh-17

Why does it matter?

Lying Siberian mongol kek
We had churkas and asians in USSR yes, but they breed each other, not the russians or other nations

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Why are Estonians so ungrateful?

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Politicians who did it shouldn't apologise, they should just get jailed. Those who take power after them surely shouldn't apologise for what they did not do. Apology has literally no sence.

>Why are Estonians so ungrateful?

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CEPГEЙ CEPГИЙ ACTAХOB EДИHCTBEHHЫЙ ДOCTOЙHЫЙ ПPEEMHИК ПУTИHA

Show me 1 Mongol looking Estonian and I will show you 10 Mongol looking Russians.

>I will show you 10 Mongol looking Russians
I'm waiting

Why we should apologize for anglo russophobic propaganda?

Please give us back territory immediately.

Russians work at private companies and pay taxes.

Estonians drink coffee, do nothing in government structures and basically live off russians' taxes.

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>Russians pay taxes

Yeah, cool story. I guess that's why Russians overwhelmingly vote for gibs.

russia is unironically based on lies,
once they stop lie, they will stop being russia

Strong nations don't apologize
Germany apologized for holocaust and world wars and it's the most cucked nation on earth RIP

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> I guess that's why Russians overwhelmingly vote for gibs.

Right wing lovers have lower IQ, that's right, russian estonians are smarter.

Left ideology wins because smartest people are more likely to support left. You know, it's hard to find right wing intellectual.

Stay assblasted forever Sven but your boy king was a retard and he had the loss to Peter coming

because you north/western euros are retards who are distracted by Trump

we know eastern europeans are our bros, and hopefully we can show our appreciation into the future since apparently Germany, France, Italy, and Britain hate us

based

I don't know why France is known for its philosophers when clearly Belgium brings the intellectual power

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They're irresponsible like children. They're a nation of single mothers, most Russian men were raised by single mothers and are very beta and childish in result.

In the 90's the USA should've killed every single one of them, allowing them to live was a huge mistake. Now we have thousands of nukes in the hands of retarded irresponsible children.

>apologize
Fuck off pussy faggot.

He is correct actually. Most white Russian men died in WW2, so Stalin imported Azerbaijani, Uzbek and Armenian men to the small villages to breed with white women.

>>refuses to speak english even though it is the world language (putin)
this is actually based though

>Finno-Ugrics really ravaged Russia and Europe and caused huge inconveniences for everyone.
I beg to differ.

>shot dowb mh-17
Lie
>plunged Eastern Europe into decades of communism
Americans plunged the entire world into decades of capitalism which is much worse (communism is at least about justice and fair distribution of income)
>genocides and gulags
American Indians aren't still allowed to leave reservations
>secret police
McCarty
>violates airspace and seaspace
US do the same
>threatens other nations
Also the shit star-strangled fags do as well
>warcrimes
How about Vietnam and Iraq wars?
>refuses to speak English
Why should we speak a foreign language without need?
>poisons people with polonium
Lie

ITT: Vatniks who has perfected whataboutism

Note how everytime someone mentions something bad Russia does/has done, they always scream USA ALSO DOES BAD THINGS! despite it beeing compleatly irrelevant.

Its like I would state that its perfectly fine that we have rapes in Sweden because there is rapists in Hungary too.

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Anything that Estonian neonazis are afraid of is good in my book. God bless the Russian federation

Ok, let's talk about YOU

>genocide
In 1930s you had forced sterilisation of non-arian
>violated see space, war crimes
Karl 12

All the other things you never did because since 1721 you are too weak. If a country is mighty, it has to do bad things to protect its citizens from countries that are jelaous to our success. And if country apologizes for it, it's no longer a superpower.

We have only had forced sterlizations of trannies, not sure what you are on about.

But that and your 18th century gibberish still doesnt matter in a thread about RUSSIA

>from countries that are jelaous to our success
>our success
But...you don't have any

Because if the current regime admits all of these (even only atrocities of the bolshevik era) at some point there inevitably will be a high demand for a trial against communism and the KGB which will lead to literally everyone in charge being jailed or lustrated at least.
The current propaganda is based off a meme that USSR did nothing wrong.

>Hurr durr USA
Am I right that if I come to your house, rape your mother, kill her, kill you and then take your stuff someone else doing same shit somewhere will be a perfect excuse?

>capitalism which is much worse (communism is at least about justice and fair distribution of income)
>written and submitted using technologies developed in capitalist countries
I have only one question for you my vatnik bro, if you could choose to be transmigrated into a soviet villager during collectivization of 1930s would you happily accept it?

P.S. Any russkie shilling for communism is a literal traitor. Bolsheviks killed or repressed more than 40 millions and considering how big traditional families were at that time chances are super high one of your relatives suffered or got killed at that time especially adding those who died of famine or during WW2 (both of which were directly instigatedd by the soviet regime)

>why can they never apologize for what they've done?

Why would they?
What benefit does it have?

They are considered to be guilty regardless what actually happened. Might as well just not apologize if they actually do something wrong.

>sven calls you out for whataboutism
>counters him with more whataboutism

Didn't read that post, but I really don't know why whataboutism is frowned upon.

If I break a rule and call you out on breaking the same rule, then why would you give a single shit?

>If you admit your mistake and try to work them out there's a great chance you won't repeat them.

If you admit your mistake, you can be held liable for your deeds and that will be exploited to an extreme.
Just showing the finger is the better option in some cases.

The most curious things are the underlying implications of it.

>Soviet Russia murdered hundreds of thousands of upstanding white people.

Russian whataboutism response:

>Well, you killed gypsies and Jews and communists!

Really makes you think what they're standing for.

We're the world's biggest country, we were first in space, so yes we have much success.

Mнoгo Haвaльный зaплaтил?

You can't even into geography or elementary school math.

Because it's basically like a child going "But he did it too!" to excuse the fact that they've done something wrong when they've been caught.

>What benefit does it have?
If you admit your mistakes and try to work them out there's a great chance you won't repeat them.
Since communism had its worst impacts on Russians it is more important for us rather than anyone else.

Another one ready to be killed because some random fucker did the same.

And yeah, we defeated Napoleon and Hitler

Beeing the biggest country isnt really something to brag about when most of it is useless tundra.

You did achive a great deal of things in space tho, and should rightfully be proud over that.

>being so btfo that you have to resort to straight up unfounded insults

>Mнoгo Haвaльный зaплaтил?
Пo кpaйнeй мepe, нaм плaтят, a вac вoлoдин дoлбит

All of this is either lies, or guild of someone else, or non-issue.

>You did achive a great deal of things in space tho, and should rightfully be proud over that.

Thanks to German scientists. Russians literally ruined the future of mankind.

If you think Russia had any friends in the West, then you are wrong.
If you let them, they will rip you apart and call it the great victory upon the evil of the world. You will never be sovereign again.
Go ahead and you'll see what that means.

It’s the survival of the fittest in this dump called Earth. You have to be “evil” to success. What Russia does is justified if it helps them.
The world is starting to fear the Russian bear and the Chinese dragon once again.

Yeah, but the US also used germans to do anything in space. Those krauts were good at it.

>ITT: Vatniks who has perfected whataboutism
Why wouldn't we use the appeal to hypocrisy against hypocrites?

Fuck you, Russian are genetically smarter then German

look who says about tundra

europeans tried to invade and genocide russians countless of times. russia should have the right to nuke europe for all the shit this cancerous subcontinent has done to them

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>Because it's basically like a child going "But he did it too!" to excuse the fact that they've done something wrong when they've been caught.

That's a terrible excuse.
However, it's the perfect way of saying
>lick my hairy testicle sack

don't you think?

Also why would you look for an "excuse" if you are called out on something, which other people do as well? The only thing you will look for is a nice phrase to brush them off.

>Because it's basically like a child going "But he did it too!" to excuse the fact that they've done something wrong when they've been caught.
Child can be caught by parents, meanwhile there are no parents among countries. Only countries with more nukes or with larger economy.

Justifying whataboutism with the fact that other use whataboutism is still whataboutism.

pointing out hypocrisity is a legitimate argument. screaming "whataboutism" however is not an argument.
russians are simply fed up with mass genociders and oppressors constantly crying about supposed russian aggression. you accuse them of doing the same shit you do

I did not mention others using whataboutism. Instead I pointed that whataboutism is an appellation to hypocrisy, so if someone is a hypocrite, it should be used against him.

This. Nothing more hypocritical than a Westerner.

This.

The argument against whataboutism seems to legitimize hypocrisy.

>Soviet Unions success
das rite we did it t. russians

>Soviet Unions atrocities
das not rite was different country t. russians

That's also what Austria does.
Isn't there anything comparable in Finland?

>Also why would you look for an "excuse" if you are called out on something, which other people do as well?

Because you're unable to defend why you're doing it, so you try to draw attention away from yourself not being able to defend yourself. At least, that's what I think.

If you can defend yourself but still call out the hypocrisy other person, then its not whataboutism.

But if your only argument is that someone else has done it, then it is.

>whataboutism
Again, look at the map fellow whitewashed Chingiz

>But if your only argument is that someone else has done it, then it is.
I didn't mean to go that way.

What I actually mean is that there is no need to defend yourself in such cases.

You're not gonna morally defend yourself against your enemy, are you?

Your ancestors literally lived in a Khanate. You have clearly never seen a Finnic person in your life you brainwashed mongrel.

Even if we apologize it won't change a thing.
The same logic applies to NATO as well, which was created to fight the USSR. Do you know that Soviet Union no longer exist, so why do NATO?

I dont understand what you're saying. I guess if you think about it you don't need to defend yourself to anybody. But I don't really see what that has to do with the subject at hand.

Because only weak countires apologize for something
Once you apologize for something and you became cuck country like Germoney

Your ancestors literally lived in a Soviet Union. This doesn't make you Russian. Russia was a wassal state of the Khanate, and there was no racemixing according to the DNA map I posted above.
>never seen a Finnic person

I saw a lot of chink-looking Finns here on int

Hold on for a second.
There are around 1.3 million people in Estonia, 0.9 million of which are actually Estonian.
So you are saying that you are distinctly different from the big country tat borders you on the East?

For me personally there is very little difference in looks between Estonians, Fins, and Russians from certain areas like St. Petersburg.

Get yourself together man, this is becoming pathological.

Most Mongols live in China.

I don't think it's a matter of 'they did it too, so that makes it ok', rather a case of 'you're trying to delegitimize us (but not yourselves) by pointing out things you do too, which will affect our standing in the world therefore we will call out your hipocrisy'.
Keeping with the child analogy, if a child who looks at the kid next to him's paper during a test calls out another kid for doing the same thing and as a result only the called out kid gets his exam taken away, the kid who called him out will have an advantage when he did the same bad deed. Therefore, the punished kid will naturally feel the need to call out his classmate's hypocrisy.

Why Estonians are such asiatic mongols? That's why you're so cruel? Go back to Siberia pls

The point is that Russia is not allowed to point out American shortcomings because that'd be whataboutism, but vice versa there is no problem with that.

I am trying to make sense out of everything, but people shouting whataboutism are preventing that.

>shot down mh-17
Iran Air 655, Siberia Airlines 1812.
>plunged eastern europe into decades of communism
Communism is an actual mistake, I agree.
>genocides and gulags
See above.
>secret police
Not anymore I guess, and see above.
>violates airspace of other nations
As everyone else does.
>violates sea space with submarines
As anyone else does.
>threatens other nations (said that if sweden joins nato, they'd consider that an act of war)
We actually don't care at all, nothing is said about that by anyone. Do as you wish. We're not going to invade anyone as that's just more spending and not in the interest of a regular russian (Crimea already hit our wallets hard).
>warcrimes
As everyone else.
>refuses to speak english even though it is the world language (putin)
What language I'm speaking right now? American? New Zelandian? All presidents have translators for a reason.
>poisons people with pollonium
So who killed Kennedy?

They were brought HERE en masse. The people that live here know all about the differences in both appearance and behavior. You don't have to teach us from a country that is 2000km away from where we are actually dealing with this problem. There is less than a million people living here, facing enemies that are literally hundreds of times bigger than us. You would have killed yourself already if you had to live here from generation to generation.

If the americans were trying to defend themselves from something, then it would be whataboutism. But this thread is about russians.

It's not about the Russians, it's about you.
There are only 0.9 million of you there, and you are claiming that you are distinctly different ethnically.

>They were brought HERE en masse.

To build infrastructure for ungrateful Shitstonians.

>But this thread is about russians.
The thread is never about Russians, my friend.
It's always about the world.

Russians' average IQ is 4-7 points than of ethnic Western europeans despite relentless genocides, wars, cultural harrassment, famines, deportations, 3rd world consumption rates, western russophobic propaganda campaigns, dictatorial policy throughout whole 20th century.

It's clear if russians had at least mild authoritarian state (Chile, Argentina, Turkey, Greece) they would've been cultural and economic superpower today.

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Fine. Then the ARGUMENT was about russians.

>all those eastern european countries claiming intellectual superiority

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>Communism is an actual mistake, I agree.
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