No ID required to vote

Those things are types of IDs, not something you're required to have.

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But if you don't show your id when you vote what stops someone to tell your name?
As a foreigner I just need to know the name and address of a US citizen in order to vote...

>Says that to compensate for not living in a state with electronic voting

very backwarded

True. But still funny how you can't buy alcohol with an expired ID. I mean it is still you, right? But nope, your ID expired so you can't prove you are 21.

You clearly don't know what voter registration looks like, so stop embarrassing yourself.

I'm not justifying that, either.

Yell please tell them that. Write them a letter and tell them that high IQ people on Jow Forums found a flaw in their system. They have no idea.

so what else counts as "ID" for this system in the US? according to include:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photo_identification :
>Types of photo ID used in the US
>Passports[2], or Passport cards
>Driver's licenses, or state ID cards for non-drivers, issued by a state's >Department of Motor Vehicles
>Company-issued ID cards
>Native tribal cards
none of this is something that everyone has.

and according to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws_in_the_United_States :
>At the federal level, the Help America Vote Act of 2002 requires voter ID for all new voters in federal elections who registered by mail and who did not provide a driver's license number or the last four digits of a Social Security number that was matched against government records.
again, neither of those things are something everyone has

>low IQ american beast can't read properly
.>what a surprise

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Who wouldn't have a social security number? How would their contributions to the boomer fund be calculated without it?

>Who wouldn't have a social security number?

Neets I suppose

Here's the form from my state alone:
fvap.gov/uploads/FVAP/Forms/FPCAwithOMBFinal.pdf

It needs to be sent in by mail so a valid address is also generally required.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_number#Non-universal_status

I was not talking about the registration, retard.

>elligible voter not having an SSN

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To be fair, if you opt out of SS for religious purposes, you really don't deserve to vote.

Then what exactly were you talking about, my english-impaired friend?

>having to register to vote

How is that democratic

>non-citizens
YEAH LET EM VOTE

My point was that if you are not required to present an ID at the time of the vote anybody can pretend to be you. It's called voter impersonation.

Was I clear enough for you, my cognitive-impaired friend?

In canada you can vote with a niqab on without ever showing your face so ID requirements are pretty much just a joke at this point

all citizens get a SSN and I think some non citizen residents too.

true there should be some sort of free photo ID required to vote, maybe just printed off when people register to vote or something, but some people (mostly lefties) think minorities dont know how to get an ID

>My point was that if you are not required to present an ID at the time of the vote anybody can pretend to be you.

We have these things called precincts, and for those who aren't mailing in their vote you're typically required to vote in person at your precinct's designated polling station(s). So unless you're really compelled to fly all the way over to my little 2x8 suburban block and waltz on over to the local fundie church or fire station, you're probably out of luck.

Look, bottom line is that we live in a highly globalized, highly populated, and highly digitized society; if you really wanted to fake a vote you could do it regardless of ID requirements.

ironically republicans voted against national IDs because muh federal government telling us what to do

>you could fake votes even with ID requirements
dios mio

>no ID required to vote
>How much more backwarded can this be

>Not having ID
>Democracy

Holy shit how deep in chrocodile are you?

>So unless you're really compelled to fly all the way over to my little 2x8 suburban block and waltz on over to the local fundie church or fire station, you're probably out of luck.

Or more realistically someone you know that live in the same area and will vote in your name, or in the name of someone they know will not vote?

There were actually instances of dead people voting in the US : npr.org/2012/02/14/146827471/study-1-8-million-dead-people-still-registered-to-vote

The ones our agencies are most concerned about are the ones that take advantage of outdated voting machines and the like from an external source, not just some rando walking in and lying which only counts for a fraction of the vote in any given area.

>There's little evidence that this has led to widespread voter fraud

Literally the third line in. Stop with this weak bait.

>wanting to pay to be able to vote

what do you mean external source? they arent connected to the internet

>america
>a democracy
do amerimutts really believe this?

>if there is no evidence of mass fraud that changed the outcome of an election it means that fraud is not possible

nice logic

nytimes.com/2018/02/21/magazine/the-myth-of-the-hacker-proof-voting-machine.html

>is not possible

I thought you claimed it already happened? Stop backpedaling.

Not everybody wanting to fake votes resides at the other side of the atlantic.

It's in the article. I want you to read it and tell me when you found it. You can help yourself with your finger to avoid missing a line.

I'll give you a kinder egg.

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the ones with modems are for customers (places that buy the machines) to send unofficial results and the results sent over internet are not to be used as official results. The remote access software was used back in 2000-2006 because again customers wanted it and it was seen in a better light back then, but it was not used afterwards and they tracked down the machines that used it and no one uses them by now. I used to work in the industry like 6 years ago and have a few friends connected with that exact company

aren't you born with one here?

on the other hand Im sure there were some fake votes in person, whether by people running the machines or people voting, because it happens every election

Nowhere in the article is it going to backup what you believe to be massive voter fraud. They're isolated incidents with little consequence, if someone wanted to take advantage of it they'd have done it already. Stop being a Jow Forumstard.

And my dad works for nintendo.

>what you believe to be massive voter fraud

No. My post was :
>There were actually instances of dead people voting in the US

This is explicitly written in the article.
I've never pretended there were massive frauds.

All started because you misread one of my post and now you want the last word so you try to make me say things.

imagine living in a third world shithole where you can't just vote while shopping groceries

>pay for ID
I'm never not surprised by the USA

I don't have to make you say anything, buddy. You've already outed yourself as a dumbass that's incapable of understanding how in-person voting works in this country.

Passports and driving permits are free in Mexico?

Because the American system has so much ways do deal with that. There's reason voter fraud is so rare in the US of A every possible action they have counter measure to it.

The IDEA is that poor people etc. have to go out of their way to get an ID. So its not fair to them.

nice, what I said is true though sorry if it doesnt fit your narrative. Youd have to be in person to truly hack the election, either through stuffing the ballots, messing with the USB sticks that load the election, or the compact flash cards that are also in the machine (used for debugging as far as I knew). The USB just needs 1 key to open and take it out, but it would be much harder to sneakily take out the CF card

if they required IDs to vote they would have be free or else it would probably be struck down

Be more illiterate.

We have a national ID called issued by the INE (Instituto Nacional Electoral) which is free, you use it specifically to vote, you can get it when you turn 18. Driving licenses and passports aren't something everyone needs, so it makes sense that the ID that everyone does need is free

Go drink your monkey soup, OP.

No.
You're pissed because you were in the wrong and can't accept it.
Almost everything you posted in this thread was garbage tier, while all the things I said turned out to be accurate.
Now you want the last word. And I know you will keep posting as long as I do, I can feel the rage through your screen.

in ontario at least you're sent a slip in the mail that you need to vote

I could do it, but you would still be a retard.

The SSN is free here. You can vote using it. You can also get a non driver id which is cheap like 12 bucks

I get a free Voter ID in the mail but I still need to go out of my way to get it. Is it fair to people who need to work full time if they go out of their way?

Fair enough. But how come you guys don't have a proper national ID? It's very weird

>while all the things I said turned out to be accurate.

You were called out almost immediately by for assuming that your spectacularly worded scenario was the first of its kind and not the most obvious and ineffective way to forge a vote. But you're right, I can stay here all night, so keep making wannabe-intelligent posts all you want.

>Is it fair to people who need to work full time if they go out of their way?
Setting aside 1 (uno) day to do a chore may be a hassle, but I wouldn't call it unfair

It's liberals saying it's racist on behalf of blacks and spics
It's actually condescending to imply that minorities are too retarded to get an ID

In my first post I wasn't even making an assertion, I was asking a question, as shown by this sign : '?'.
But Americans of Jow Forums have a tendency to be on the defensive.

See the Canadian understood it was a question :

>tendency to be on the defensive
What do you expect after all this anti American shit on Jow Forums.

>What do you expect after all this anti American shit on Jow Forums.
The anti-american shit is only there because of the way you mutt's react. Everyone is laughing at you

>as shown by this sign : '?'.

Ah, the great and respectable french move of playing dumb. You knew what you meant. And the canadian was calling you a dumbass too, smarty.

Cool for you.

It's understandable. But the rage of this guy () is more peculiar.
Probably the kind of guy that shoots a man without warning for entering his yard.

>It's racist to expect people to be literate and capable of reading the ballot when they vote
>It's racist to expect people to be able to transport themselves to the polling area when they vote
>It's racist to expect people to have identification (Voter ID, driver's license, passport, student ID, government ID, military ID or tribal ID) when they vote
>It's racist to expect people to be American citizens when they vote
These are all real arguments that people have seriously made.

my sides

>illegal immigrants
YEAH DEPORT EM
>illegal voters
YEAH IGNORE EM

America is too important for the whole world due to its economic relevance and companies, therefore, the decision of whom runs this country every 4 years it's made by the big world economic (((elites))) and "democracy" and "freedom" literally doesn't exist because we can't, as world, let a bunch of fat nigger illiterate mutts to decide the world's future and the "elections" there are just a fairy tale, that's why they just peak two parties since they exist.

Right mate

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>offices in all major population centers, and more scattered across the state
non-issue

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>It's racist to expect people to be literate and capable of reading the ballot when they vote

Rea bout how literacy tests were used to bar Blacks of all educational status as well as poor whites to the point they had to add a grandfather clause to reduce the number of poor whites being barred from the vote.

There opening times and days also are pretty messed up. Like several are only open on 1 day a month.

more likely the result of a poor state with a tight budget than a conspiracy to disenfranchise ethnic minorities

When that state is Alabama?

nowadays the goal is to trick poor people and minorities into thinking you care about their problems, not to prevent them from voting

Bottom line is that you can go to the polling station and say "hello my name is Jimmy James :DDD and vote" and the guy in the polling station has no way of knowing if you really are Jimmy James, only knows that there's a guy with that name in the register. So then you go to the next polling station and say "hello, my name is Johnny Johnson" and then to next station "hello my name is Stacy Starr (yes I was a woman before tbqh)", and off to next polling station and etc.

In fact, apart of third-worldish sounds like a good business.