Why did Britain give up on its Royal Navy and allow the US Navy to take over the world's sealanes?

yet it doesn't spur economic growth like the private healthcare system does.

Doesn’t matter because eurogays are pussy ass faggots. Just look at their favorite sport, bunch of grown men tossing themselves on the grass when another man touches them and the start to cry. It’s like they’re all lesbian feminists

yee haww

You can and should use you resources more smartly in economy than peddling 10 $ cough drops

you tell 'em cleetus

Our resources are basically infinite, there just needs to be capital to utilize it.

He's not wrong though. Why do soccer players dive so much and why do the fans put up with it

It's just part of the game when people have a huge drive to win. Still people like Neymar are outliers and it's fun to get mad at it. Think people filming in basketball. Doesn't ruin the game in any way. Don't know why mutts like user there brings in weird sexual politics, it's just a sport.

Basketball is nothing like soccer lol

We lost our Empire mate

>>Dude, socialized health care costs less to economy than private system.
No it doesn't

>1774

try 1945, it was in decline before that but when america got out of the war without having to retool from a full war economy and without having to rebuild massive chunks of infrastructure it exploited the hell out of europe

can't blame them for it, but equally too many yanks on here refuse to admit their country is the reason european colonialism came to an end. they share a large part of the responsibility for many colonies being decrepit shitholes now

Even before WWI British Empire sucked economically and lost economically to USA, Germany, were to eventually to lose to France, rising Japan & Russia also were biting into their monopoly.
WWI hit them hard. UK gained basically nothing, all the problems were still in place and fucking Germany was still an economical monster. And USA basically threatened to end British hegemony.
WWII... rekt everyone. UK sucked together with France and Germany. However unlike France and Germany, UK pretended to be a 3rd superpower. They used remaining money and financial help to get nukes, boost bases, navy...
...and became a shithole. And after incident with Suez UK became a joke, had to decolonize India, Africa and other holdings. And at a top of it, had a shitty economics. If it wasn't for Tetcher UK would be as shitty as Poland by the time of USSR collapse. They basically lost a moment to modernize, taking the military and nukes as a priority to save the empire.
Russia is in a similar state, it is a struggling ex-superpower trying to keep up with USA & China.
They barely afforded it before the war too...
Nah, shitty answer. France and Germany became economical powerhouses again for example. And well, Europe would rise again later because of technology and economics they still had. Money were given because USA needed to oppose USSR and prevent the another war on the continent.

despite being in favour of eliminating the NHS, that is a mind numbingly stupid comment

Nah m8.
You chose to go for nukes, navy and military in 1945-1950s to keep up your position as a superpower. And yet you lost all influence after Suez crisis.
All while France&Germany used money to rebuild and redevelop from even a shittier state than you had. You could be German-tier economics simply by the virtue of modernization.

britain peaked in the late 19th century, didn't stand a chance after that

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the real redpill of anglo politics is that the USA has never been the greatest ally of the UK, in many ways they are our greatest enemy. They have destroyed our influence and economy in a way the french and spanish never could.

or maybe the french were playing the long game all along, by supporting a grim little colony 250 years ago they did ruin us in the end

private healthcare is literally the broken window fallacy writ large.

Modern navies are incredibly expensive, in 1945 the Royal Navy was still the closest competitor to the USN, iirc we had something like 12 fleet carriers to the USNs 23? In any case, that shit is stupid expensive to maintain and was deemed uneccesary considering the US basically has exactly the same geopolitical goals as us w.r.t maintaining freedom of navigation and trade and considering we were basically bankrupt after WW2 because America didn't help us out for free and killing Nazis got REAL expensive, most of them were scrapped or sold off.

Then when Suez rolled around and America decided to strongarm us & france into reducing overseas presence, without regular access to the Indian and Pacific Oceans needed there really wasn't much point in having a HUGE navy, so since then we've just focused on hunting Russian subs and maintaining the ability to go full american blue water retard if we want to, which is a little bit what we're doing with the two new carriers, but I think a chunk of their purpose was to basically allow us to opt out of EU army shit by going "We'll do way more of our fair share of the expensive navy & airpower stuff guys if we don't have to do full integration with army stuff", but I guess that's kinda moot now.

tl;dr: The institutional drive which forced the Royal Navy into having a lot of ships is being sufficiently covered by America, so who cares who protects the trade as long as it gets protected.

then why are they good in hoi4? checkmate atheists

desu i like to say stupid shit here for fun and i can't help it. I don't know anything about the benefits of the private healthcare system

Yeah mate it's almost like we had to babysit the Germans from the giant wog horde to the East that had just raped its way through half their country.

Let's be real, it was mostly USA who did job, including rebuilding those cunts.
You could more or less go like France. Navy was useless against USSR who had a little of it, you didn't make a great land army and nukes could be left to USA.
UK did it to compete for influence with USA and lost. Given that your industry was rather weak, it is no surprise why it sucked to other euros.

I don't know why you're so down on Britain, we certainly didn't underperform as compared to France. I'd agree with you that we were outcompeted by Germany, and there were poor post-war decisions made, but it's not as simple as you seem to think it was. The Germans had the excuse of being a vanquished power, we didn't, at least not openly.

Nah, I am not really down on Britain.
Fact is, post-WWII Empire fell and the outcome certainly wasn't the best.
France was actually more powerful economics for sure, especially given that you outperformed it pre-WWII if I remember right. Britain suffered from old industry, lack of modernization, crappy infrastructure and some issues like coal mining.
It is actually nice how Britain in the end managed to overcome these problems after the mistakes it made. I hope that Brexit won't be a suicide for you guys.

How do we save Britain

>the real redpill of anglo politics is that the USA has never been the greatest ally of the UK, in many ways they are our greatest enemy. They have destroyed our influence and economy in a way the french and spanish never could.
Can you expand on this idea, it doesn't seem likely

The British Empire stopped funding them.

Build the wall from Poles obviously.
And make Poland pay.

US aslo did control shot during Suez crisis, supporting USSR against UK, finishing British Empire last ambitions

You're simply upset that you don't get everything you want. In terms of raw geopolitics, the US and the UK have almost exactly identical grand strategies - keep Eurasia divided to prevent hegemonies from forming, patrol global sea lanes to encourage economic growth (and discourage hegemonies from forming), and ensure that the anglosphere remains a great place to do business (to maintain anglo hegemony and prevent hegemonies from forming)

I know it sucks to be the junior partner, but you're seriously delusional if you think the US and UK aren't 100% on the same page about the broad strokes of how to do things.

>Was it because of socialized healthcare
I seriously hope this is bait for muttposting and you don't seriously think this

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why?

Because socialized healthcare actually reduces healthcare spending you absolute mutt. You guys are paying like 50% more than them.

probably debt from the first and second world wars
untrue, the british empire dissolved after WW2 because of struggles for independence and the lack of money needed to maintain it, US dominance came about through protectionist economic policies and more than anything the fact that WW1/2 did not take place on their soil

>Nah, shitty answer. France and Germany became economical powerhouses again for example
not the same as geopolitical power. Once colonialism died the neocolonial capitalist model took over, the US has hegemony in that regard but it is a far cry from the actual colonies that europe had. Thankfully the era of colonialism and serfdom is mostly over

There is nothing anti-UK about honestly accepting and talking about the fact that we are no longer a world power, we should be worrying about the material conditions of our citizens rather than just fronting, It's okay lol. I think people on here try and act as their countries and get butthurt when it's' pointed out something went wrong

somewhat true, the US deliberately quashed UK geopolitical influence after WW2, but what the fuck are we gonna do, we were bankrupt. Hopefully there isn't another fascist expansionist govt on the way that will destroy europe again

I'm not mad, I just think he's overstating his case a bit.

Why was ending colonialism a bad thing

Colonialism was dying long before this. Both world wars and countless others had colonialism as a root cause.
Absolutely hysterical how brits try to rationalize this. In a sea of nationalism, irredentism, and upheaval you blame a former colony... for the death of your colonialism. Your colonial and imperial ambitions were fucked for a century before 1945

They were broke because they were coming fresh from the two largest wars in human history back to back. Their cities were bombed to rubble, their young men dead or maimed, their industry entirely devoted to building tanks, planes, ships and guns. If you think socialized healthcare was even a drop in the ocean of that then you're sorely mistaken.

water molecule in the ocean at least?

This.