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Lincoln James
White South Africans seem to survive on blame. The Dutch East India company abandoned them, forcing them to become renegade slave traders, as if this was not heartbreaking enough the British tried to beat them twice in a war after they declared a rogue republic around some gold mines.
Of course the Black South African majority who they later threw into a diaspora (3.5 million Blacks/Coloureds/Indians were robbed of their properties and farms since the 1930's and given to whites) and denationalised (blacks were forced to carry passports in their own country) seems never to have liked them enough.
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And of course when Jews escaping Hitler and other Brit ex colonials flooded in they were whining about having to share their fatherland. In 1994 they got a sweetheart deal and not even a war crimes trial but that too was not appreciative enough for these Special People.
Now they are pretending to be Rwandans or Bosnian Muslims. Today they are insisting on stealing limelight and sympathy from the millions of poor they created.
I think they should finally grow up. A 350 year adolescence is more than long enough
They use the victim card every time, and use it to step on others EVERY time.
Bentley Flores
>as if this was not heartbreaking enough
Isaiah Gonzalez
The first black owner of Camps Bay, Zwarte Maria Evert (1663 – 1713), daughter of the man known at the time as ‘Kaffer’ Evert van Guinea and Hoena (Anna) van Guinea.
Benin in West Africa was the birthplace of the parents of Zwarte Maria Evert, taken as slaves to the Cape. There was a legendary female regiment of warriors in that part of the world who were known as the Amazon Warriors of Dahomey. If anyone lived up to that noble, fearless and fearsome reputation, in her own special way it was Maria who stood out at the beginning of the 18th century as a prominent farmer and business woman in a colonial society which was absolutely dominated by European males.
Hoena van Guinea was a contemporary youngster alongside Krotoa and Lysbeth Arabus (and her sister Cornelia).
Born into slavery and growing up during her first 8 years as a slave, Maria was highly challenged by adversity, but she soldiered on to accomplish remarkable feats in her time. She died a very wealthy and respected woman. Zwarte Maria Everts was the first title deed owner of the farm which became Camps Bay. She also owned the farms de Mosselbank at Klipheuwel and Klawervlei at Darling and also had been granted grazing and hunting rights in the veld of Sonquasfonteyn and the Drooge Vallei outside of Groene Kloof.
Hunter Howard
In 1658 there were 402 African slaves from Guinea (Benin or Popo) that were landed at the Cape. Most were children seized from two Portuguese ships by two Dutch vessels. Some were sent on to Batavia and others remained behind and yet others dies soon after arrival because of the state that they were in compounded by the fact that Van Riebeeck fed them daily rations of alcohol and tobacco to pacify them.
Later the African slave trade continued from the west coast of Madagascar and by the 1770s the majority of slaves came from Mozambique island and included Mozambicans, Malawians, Congolese and Zimbabweans as well as slaves captured in Limpopo, Mpumalanga and KZN. These who were shipped out of the slaver station of Mozambique Island were locally known as Masbiekers. Further African slaves joined these between 1808 and 1856 known as ‘Liberated Africans’ who were mainly from West Africa and East Africa and had been seized at sea from Slaver Ships by the Royal Navy.
Between the 1840s and 1939 most of the Royal Navy sailors based at the Cape were West African Kroo sailors, Siddee sailors from Zanzibar and Lascar sailors from India. Indentured African labour from the same Southern African areas where slaves were captured.
By the 1904 census there were five times as many Slave and migrants of colour residents of the Cape Colony (the majority of whom were in the Western Cape and Cape Town in particular, than Khoi. In the next census in 1911 the 86 000 Khoi and the almost 400 000 descendants of Afro-Asian slaves and migrants of colour previously labeled Mixed/Other (predominantly African) were forced under one category - "Coloured".
Lucas Morales
Of all the slaves brought to the Cape around 68% were Africans of sub-Saharan ancestry. For much of 250 years the majority of the recorded Cape Town population were slaves outnumbering both Europeans and Khoi. So from many historical records and perspectives, as well as dna testing, as much as 36% of Cape Town’s people of colour have sub-Saharan African roots in addition to Khoi, Indian, Southeast Asian, Chinese and European roots, as well as many other tributaries from as far afield as Australian Aborigines, African-American and Caribbeans, St Helena and Philippines. Each has an amazing history to impart to us. Here I tell just one story - that of Zwarte Maria Evert.
When we relate these stories to descendants of slaves they often do not want to know about their slave heritage as they think of it as shameful and then adopt falsehoods instead.
Connor Diaz
The infrastructure and farming in the Cape colony who never have occurred without slave skills and labour. These ancestors went through one of the worst ‘Crimes against Humanity’ yet rose above adversity. The first craftsmen, first teachers, first chemist, first agriculturalists, first lawmen, first philanthropist, and so much more, were all from among slaves and Free Blacks. The slaves also often fought back and led armed uprisings in both Western and Eastern Cape. In 1808 slaves and Khoi (including two Irish supporters) rose up and 346 rebels took over forty farms in rebellion. Many rebels became prisoners on Robben Island. But let me not digress further and rather return to my story of the amazing Zwarte Maria Evert.
Adrian Clark
Zwarte Maria Everts was born at the Cape of Good Hope in 1663 to Anna van Guinea, also known by her indigenous African name Hoena, and her common law partner was the freed slave Evert van Guinea.
Evert van Guinea and Hoena van Guinea, in May 1658 had arrived in Cape of Good Hope as part of 220 slaves taken in Popo (Benin) by the slaver-ship Hasselt. Together with Koddo van Guinea, Maria van Guinea, Oude Hans van Guinea, Jajenne van Guinea, Adouke van Guinea, Deuxsous van Guinea, Dirk van Guinea and Regina van Rapenberg van Guinea they were purchased by Jan Van Riebeeck.
While with van Riebeeck, Hoena (renamed Anna) also had a son with Dirk van Guinea in 1660. Evert of Guinea was rewarded with his freedom by Jan van Riebeeck after he gave away the hiding place of some fellow slaves who had escaped.
Anna was later sold to Hendrick Hendricksz Boom by van Riebeeck on his departure from the Cape in 1662 and was again sold in 1665 to Matthijs Coeijmans together with her daughter Zwarte Maria and the fostered child Lysbeth Saunders, daughter of Lysbeth Arabus. While under the ownership of Boom, Anna gave birth to Zwarte Maria Evert.
Anna started having a relationship with Evert while she was still van Riebeeck’s slave and in 1671 Evert bought Anna and her daughter Zwarte Maria and thus freed them from slavery. From this time Evert and Anna were living as man and wife.
Evert did not have as hard a life at the Cape as did Anna van Guinea and his daughter Zwarte Maria. He had been given his freedom in 1659 (manumitted), by van Riebeeck and, is noted in history as the first male slave to be freed.
Freed slaves became part of what was recorded as the ‘Free Black’ population, which also included migrants of colour such as Merdijker soldiers from islands like Ambon in Southeast Asia, or sailors, or traders and adventurers.
Jayden Cox
Later in 1669 Evert van Guinea was granted a plot of land by Commander Jacob Borghorst near Roeland Street and Tuynhuys, where he lived and ran a market garden, growing fruit and vegetables.
It was a sizeable plot of prime land in the middle of Cape Town with good access to water and later he extended it by buying the plot adjoining his land from Hendrik Evertsz Schmidt in 1678.
Later in life, Evert moved to Stellenbosch where he was the first of the early pioneer Free Black farmer starting the farm Welgelegen. Anna died in 1684 and Evert died in 1688. They had laid a firm foundation for their daughter’s success at farming.
Zwarte Maria, so named because of her deep black complexion, was born into slavery at the Fort de Goede Hoop and was sold with her mother, by Boom, to their next owner Coeijmans. Their freedom was purchased by Evert van Guinea and from Coeijmans. She was 8 years old at the time. From the age of 13 in 1676 when she was baptised along with her mother, Zwarte Maria Evert began to blossom.
Having been a slave for all of her formative years, she was already a hard worker when she helped in the market garden. She watched Evert and learned to farm and her very able entrepreneurship was born out of her engagement with selling the produce for Evert from the market garden. Evert taught her how to make deals and how one could acquire land. Through this she became shrewd at business and began investing in land. Zwarte Maria made many contacts and developed strong networks as an entrepreneur of note.
Xavier Williams
The household of the Everts was tempestuous and had developed a notorious reputation. Besides Anna’s own children and Lysbeth Saunders the family also fostered other children who had grown up under slavery. All of the feisty women of the household were constantly in trouble with the law.
Evert, though very successful as a market gardener seemed have made a number of loans that he serviced while running his business. He cleverly invested in land, but his loans were never repaid in full. Perhaps it was also Evert van Guinea who gave Zwarte Maria the first helping hand in going forward. But she also knew that she needed to put some distance between herself, the family and the turmoil in the house of Evert in the town centre or reform it. Her chance came when Evert and Anna became part of the pioneering farmers of Stellenbosch.
Zwarte Maria was engaging, diplomatic and captivating as a person and like many of the women enslaved or born into slavery she sought out good opportunities and used this as a ladder to put as much distance between herself and her original life as an enslaved person.
At 16 she got married to a Free Black former Angolan slave by the name of Jackie Joy van Angola (aka Gracias van Angola). This was the first time at the Cape that two West Africans got married in church. It was to be her only formal marriage. She possibly had one of her seven children with Jackie Joij. The value of getting baptised and marrying in church was that she had claim to being part of the “Christian” establishment as distinct from the “Heathen” establishment.
Her father had been called “Kaffer” Everte and in Maria’s case they could interchangeably call her the same until she was baptized and the derogatory nickname meaning a “Heathen” then had to be dropped in favour of “Black”.
Juan Martin
The year 1679 was a topsy-turvy year for Zwarte Maria in that it was the year of her baptism; the year of being convicted for harbouring an escaped slave – where she was sentenced to 6 months hard labour; and the year of her marriage to one of the Cape’s most charmingly errant characters. It was not a long marriage because the couple were legally separated in July 1680 after Jacky Joy accused Zwarte Maria of trying to poison him. Mr Joy, a notable player had met his match. It is out of these trying circumstances that Zwarte Maria reached for the stars with determination to pull herself up and turn around her fortunes over the next 33 years.
Zwarte Maria became one of the formidable farmers of the turn of the 17th and 18th centuries who rose above adversity, to such an extent that she became the owner of several farms in Cape Town and along the West Coast. Her success was monumental. She planted vines, fruit trees, wheat, corn and raised cattle and sheep.
In 1713, before her untimely death, Maria received the title deed from the United Dutch East India Company (VoC) to the farm in the area just over the neck between Table Mountain and Lions Head, right down to the sea - later to become known as Camps Bay. She had previously acquired other properties and hunting rights.
The record shows that a freed West African slave was the original owner of Camps bay, today the home and playground of some of the wealthiest white South Africans.
At the peak of her success and only weeks before her untimely death, a visiting Englishman Samuel Briercliffe who met the striking Zwarte Maria Evert described her; “She is a tall woman, very black, having sparkling eyes which, though frightful in her, yet would be very killing in an English face, but she is a very good hostess, and provides for us splendidly and neatly withal ...”
Isaiah Wood
cringe
Jason Long
I can continue...
Alas this meeting was shortly before she was cut down in her peak time of accomplishment by the great smallpox epidemic in 1713. A Danish ship which had an outbreak of smallpox aboard the vessel pulled into Table Bay. They gave over their dirty linen to the slave washerwomen, who used the river for washing.
From that incident a ravishing epidemic spread through the entire colony and up the West Coast and the body count rose day by day. Maria died in June 1713 shortly after she signed her own will on 8 Jun 1713. Her son Jacobus, fathered by Willem ten Damme died in the epidemic two weeks later. She left a substantial estate as she was one of the wealthiest people in the colony. She had seven other children.
Maria is recorded to have had a number of concubine relationships, as had all the women in the house of Evert van Guinea, from their teens already. She only ever married Jackie Joy, but had relationships with a man by the name of Kraak, Willem ten Damme, and with Bastiaan Colyn. She had four children with the latter, one with Willem ten Damme and one with Kraak, and one possibly with Jacky Joy.
Maria Everts' son, Johannes Colijn, went on to be a prominent winemaker at Groot Constantia farm and exporter of his wines across the world, and with his wines making an impact for nearly 150 years during the 18th and 19th centuries.
Sebastian Gomez
In 2003 when opening Cape Town’s new International Convention Centre, South Africa's President Thabo Mbeki paid tribute to the pioneering and innovative spirit of Zwarte Maria Evert and said “This is surely a triumph for descendants of slaves who came in chains and yet epitomise the very role models, which we now seek in re-shaping and renewing our African continent.”
Next time some ignorant person tries to argue that sub-Saharan Africans are aliens and recent immigrants to Cape Town, just tell them to go off and do something about their ignorance because you know differently.
Further References:
Alpern Stanley B. Amazons of Black Sparta: The Women Warriors of Dahomey; New York University Press (2011)
Robertson, Delia: The First Fifty Years Project. e-family.co.za
Mansell G Upham: Uprooted Lives – Unfurling the Cape of Good Hope’s Earliest Colonial Inhabitants (1652 - 1713)
At Earth`s Extremist End … Op`t eijnde van de Aerd... The genealogical impact of the ‘Angola’ & ‘Guinea’ slaves at the Cape of Good Hope in the 17th century
e-family.co.za
Schoeman Karl; Early slavery at the Cape of Good Hope, 1652-1717, Protea Book House, Pretoria (2007)
Mbeki Thabo - polity.org.za
van Rensburg André; Website: South African Stamouers: stamouers.com
Carter Hall
You fucked our free-state
Easton Perez
Apartheid was a mistake, but blacks are still fucking monkeys. Also USSR, China, USA and Britain are to blame for destroying SAR with sanctions and proxy-wars.
Wyatt Cook
You have the British to blame for that
Eli Scott
Studies show that 6-9% of white South Africans' DNA, particularly Afrikaners, have non-white slave ancestry and to a much lesser degree Khoi ancestry.
For years they denied it. When an Afrikaans academic, Hans Heese, produced a book back in the early 1970's proving this by publishing all of the records of inter-racial relationships recorded in official church records dating back to 1652 called "Groep Sonder Grense", he was viciously attacked and his work was banned and slandered as false. He had compiled the record and they are there in South Africa's Dutch church archives to this this day.
This record has now been substantially improved by Delia Robertson and those who work with her on their brilliant and most comprehensive research website and database - google "FIRST FIFTY YEARS".
Having such ancestry and only awakening to it now, however does not absolve white South Africans from having supported and benefited from Apartheid but it is a good start to challenging their preoccupation with "whiteness".
Jace White
>"Groep Sonder Grense"
>Dr. Heese exposed, more comprehensively and more scientifically than anyone before him, the racially mixed origins of South Africa's so-called white population. Many "white" families, along with the so-called coloured population, descend from interracial unions between the European occupying population, imported African and Asian slaves, the indigenous populations, and their vari-hued offspring.
>Groep Sonder Grense was published only in Afrikaans by the Institute for Historical Research of the University of the Western Cape. As a result it passed by many potential readers (in South Africa and abroad) who it may have reached if it had also been published in English.
>In the year 2000, with Dr. Heese's very kind cooperation, it was decided to translate Groep Sonder Grense into English, published under the title Cape Melting Pot. This version, is now being published on CD in a searchable format.
>In the 20 years since Groep Sonder Grense was first published, some of Dr. Heese's findings have been updated by new research.
Aaron Taylor
hang yourself negrooos
Caleb Cook
This Finnish autist is the finn who makes anti American threada all the time