Why cant they stop?

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>I'm not mentally ill like the others! I'm a SPECIAL mentally ill!
Did you turn out this way because daddy didn't give you enough attention?

It makes sense at first because they were traditionally bullied in a very similar way and it's wrong to treat people cruelly over something they can't control like sexuality or gender dysphoria. But over time you begin to realise how delusional and bullyish the trans community is and that so many of their issues don't align with us at all.

>The journey's not over
What else do they want?

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That's actually my current leading theory yes. That or the lack of a mother my entire life

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>gender dysphoria
See, I'm having trouble even understanding this concept. It sounds like a psychological issue, but the trans community now keeps saying it's not.

normalization

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Is this a joke?

Pedophilia

Death to the West

No, 4chin is serious site

No, it's what poltards actually believe. The image might have been made as a joke but they pass around that stuff there without irony

Inexorable progress. They don't really know what they want other than the end of all existing social structures and a total transformation of society.

It is a psychological illness, but they say it's not because
>I CAN HACK MY COCK OFF AND BE A UNICORN AND THATS PERFECTLY NORMAL CIS-NORMATIVE UNTERMENSCH

It's because a lot of trannies want to believe that they genuinely are women in men's bodies and not that their brains just hate the body they're in

free to throw up in my mouth everytime I see a fag and curb stomp them if they try shit

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I heard WHO declared it not a mental issue. I'm curious how that happened. If it's not mental, then what is it?

gays are cool I wish I was gay.

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Please, we're trying to have at least a somewhat serious thread. If you want to ERP, go to /balt/, lithweeb will be waiting for you.

People can do whatever they want to themselves and there is nothing you can do about it, normie-fag

I think that's just to de-stigmatise it, there's not anything else that can be done to fix it other than surgery so it's for the best if people stop seeing it as an "illness"

That literally is how it happened. They said "We are not mentally ill!" and the media bullies every serious doctor into silence, because "thats exactly what you said about gay people!"

I am not saying they can't, I am saying it is not normal and should not warant special rights. Everybody is free to be an idiot

This is not a serious thread, you are all just spewing out bullshit on fags

Based and gay

Then what is your problem and what "special" rights are you talking about? Is the right to get married or to serve special?

Magic purpose, in some culture shamans are separate genders.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_in_Bugis_society

I'm trying to have a serious discussion, thank you very much!

Yes. You are free to mutilate yourself on your own time, but if you can't procreate you should not get monetary benefits designed to help people get kids, or be allowed to serve in the armed forces. I have nothing against alcoholics either, but I wouldn't campaign for "alcoholism-normalization" and go to the street to let drunkards serve in the army, or become pilots or something.

based homos

Alcoholism isn't comparable

Why not? It is also self mutilating behaviour (in addition to being an addiction). You can substitute other forms for self harm, it was just an example.

This, but it does cause issues, doesn't it? Like when people get into the army/navy in the US and then ask for free gender change surgery. It puts them out of action for a long time and costs money.

One is an addiction the other is a mental illness (despite what WHO says) that can only be treated through surgery, why should someone have rights stripped from them that others have because of that?

1. Transpeople have kids
2. Transpeople are functioning members of society, unlike alcoholics and drug-addicts. They won't break into your house to steal shit. And they don't suddenly get into rage mode and shoot everyone when they get into the army.

That is true, but my point still stands

I have a question to all of you, who believe that biological sex and gender are the same things: how do you define a biological sex?

?? Pray tell, how would a "trans-woman" have kids without having an uterus? How would a "trans-man" without balls have kids?

But is it only treatable with surgery? Shizophrenia for example is not treated with surgery.
Well, I got damage to my kidneys because of a birth defect, and I am not allowed to enter the army.
So that right is stripped from me for no fault of my own. Why should they now be awarded special rights while I am not?

It's comparable to dragging schizophrenics off the streets and letting them serve in the army.

Schizophrenia is not treated with surgery/hormone therapy as that has nothing to do with the illness itself, gender dysphoria is very specific in that it makes you dislike the gender that you are to put it simply, so the logical solution is to try as best as you can to become the other, right? And as time goes on I'm sure more research will be done on gender dysphoria and maybe some other solution can be found.

My break is over now anyway, I gotta get back to work

>that can only be treated through surgery
I doubt it. You don't treat a depressed person by letting them do an hero.
They have kids before they become trans. Did you mean they raise kids?

See you and thanks for contributing.

Well, I disagree. I don't think the correct treatment for somebody who thinks he must hack off his arm because the arm "does not belong to him" is to actually hack off his arm.
But thats besides the point anyways. If I can't serve in the army because there is a 10% chance that my kidneys will fail prematurely, I can not see anyway somebody who willingly subjects himself to chemical and surgical castration, has to take hormones for the rest of his life and has to dilate his open wound every day is in any way fit to serve in the army.

benis and bagina

They don't always cut everything off. People sometimes do not even do the surgery. Have you never seen a clickbait article "muh ""male"" gives birth"? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_pregnancy

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_pregnancy
lel... fucking delusional

Schizophrenia is a different kind of mental disorder, they can't control themselves and I don't think they can take responsibility for their own actions. I wouldn't even describe transgender people as having a mental disorder simply because they can be held accountable for their actions.

An addiction is a mental illness.

Why is it delusional

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The delusion is calling it anything else than a normal pregnancy if there are actually biological females and males involved.

This. I'm gay and it's fine, there's nothing more to do. Like, I got the same right as straight, that's all I want.

define biological

How old are you? You single?

19
Yes

I'm 20. Fuck me

owo
lewd

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>Rosbeef
I'm not in bestiality.

Why is there a need? It is pretty obvious, isn't it?
It's you physical body, which is a result of your genes. And no, illnesses like XXY chromosomes don't constitute another gender, they are just an anomaly.
The artificial distinction between biological sex and gender is irrelevant.
And no, changing your body through surgery and hormone treatment does not change your gender, just your appearance.

bigot

Exterminie totel de les hombres y lenguaje inclusive en le constitucione españole

Chromosomes do not define "biological" sex. Do you know that sometimes girls with XY chromosomes are born? That is because a fetus by default develops as a female, and for a fetus to become a male the Y chromosome has to kick in. But sometimes it doesn't and fully functioning women with Y chromosome are being born. Even sex is not as well defined as you think it is, let alone the perception of self.

Either way, I don't see why you want to deny social benefits to transpeople who clearly can have children.

Chromosomes do define sex, there is no need to add ''biological'' since sex is biological by default.

You are talking about an anomaly, also include source for that.

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>allies
what, no axis?

This, tranners can fuck off

define human

Reminder than more than two thirds of all rapes, sexual ssaults, pedophilia cases and std transmissions occurs between these mentally ill individuals known as homosexuals

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis

I don't disagree with you on the chromosome part, thats why I said XXY does not make you third gender, and referred to DNA and not chromosomes causing your gender.

Thats actually more of a gay marriage argument, and you brought it up. Of course, pre-OP transpeople are just normal people, biologically speaking, and post-OP they are covered by gay marriage (if they marry a non-trans person of the same boilogical sex). That debate has been decided anyways, and to be honest I don't care that much. I'd just rather have a system that encourages having children, instead of marrying for tax benefits without having children, to keep us at replacement level birthrates.
I am honestly surprised that more people don't just marry their friends now to enjoy the tax cuts that involves.

So to bring it to the point: I am fine with everybody doing what he or she wants on their own time, but I see no point rewarding something with special benefits that serves no actual purpose.

neekerit vittuun suomesta

It's a good representation of the big ugly flaw of modern feminism.
The big battles are already won and now you have a bunch of larpers who want stolen valor and are looking for a fight, any fight.

>Transpeople are functioning members of society

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By 2022 American Jews will be pushing for pedo laws.

State enforced homosexuality, hormones for your kids, and pedophilia. That is, until those have been normalized and they move on to the next thing, because progress has to continue.

In fact, it was you who brought up benefits in this post ---> I agree with you, that the tax system should be designed to help those who have children, but I would also argue that procreation and raising children is not the only purpose that a family serves. The institution of a family helps us to build stronger societies. And gay people still can adopt or hire a surrogate mother.

Maybe one day they come full circle, and when everyone is gay, start forcing through heteronormativity

The thing is that at every step of the way, their argument was "Don't be ridiculous, we only want X, we are not going to demand Y" then two years later they demand Y. It's a fucking slippery slop where they are never going to be satisfied until we are all gay.

Sorry, I though you were this russian:
I've got no problems giving gay people who adopt children and raise them well benefits.
Not sure about trans people, though, looking at their suicide rates does not inspire confidence in their ability to raise a child. And to be honest, I have a hard time seeing them as normal in any way.

The slippery-slope-fallacy-fallacy:
>Surely Hitler will stop after the Sudetenland
>Surely Hitler will stop after Anschluss
>Surely Hitler will stop after Memelland
>Surely Hitler will stop after Danzig

They look like women but they can't develop normal genitalia. See?, there is no such thing as a fully functional woman with an Y chromosome.

Lesbian
Gay
Bi
Trans
Pedo
Incest

>What else do they want?
Reparations

But the slippery slope argument is totally a fallacy!

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*virtual hug*

>2004 - Free to be you
I don't get it.
They are me?

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Know those chest bursters from Alien? The Gay is like that.

>fucking adults is the same as fucking children
>it's da joos
Fuck off cunt