A methodology that changed the way software development worked for the better in the late 90's between devs.
And that now today has destroyed itself though a cult like dogmatism of project managers that micomanage sweatshops of devs smelling of ass and testosterone to give speedy buggy poorly conceived deliverables known as minimum viable products.
Your Agile Project fails? well your just not doing it the agile way so pay $150 hr consultant/clergyman to show you for nth time how its "Meant" to be done.
Its like the argument communism has never been tried.
the worse thing about agile is "CI" or "continuous integration" worked in a group that obsessed over that stupid shit and so many hours were spent into making pointless tests pass or figuring out why the CI environment wasn't working
Of course they are pushing this whole process on everyone in the building and we already have one (((DevOps))) engineer and some contractor up high is already trying to get us to hire more.
Shit like this is why I MUST make it with crypto. No field of employment is safe from cucked bullshit, even (especially?) software development.
Henry Martinez
You know, for an industry thats supposedly crying out for programmers they sure have a shit way of going about it.
I can recall about 80pc of long term projects became death marches or over budget because it just became one maintenance project after another. But yeah its the devs fault because requirements are dynamic and we cant keep up with the changes to fit that in with the last five sprints of requirements.
I imagine it as a painter/decorator in an agile environment would never finishing painting the house.
Fololwing on from that, thats why i see most devs locally go freelance now. it security, blockchain, smart contracts, web dev for personals. Harder to some extents but the bullshit is eliminated, good tradeoff.
Robert Kelly
Glad to know I'm not the only one who hates that shit. Nobody even fucking does it by the book so to speak. It's autism of the worst kind
Grayson Nguyen
Our Devops became an overglorified IT support for Devs, when we did that ourselves anyway but now we had to wait longer to get the shit we needed because it was over the fence.
Brody Roberts
Isn't this supposed to be Jow Forums? I actually prefer waterfall method but employers and company want someone who prefer agile scrum
Nathaniel Martinez
So what's should the successor to agile look like? And how could it involve catgirls?
Austin Hughes
The problem is that expert (in this present case coders / programers) are praised, but nobody listen to them.
The most irritating thing I encounter is poorly defined goals if there is some. How are you suppose to deliver something if definition changes everytime?
Camden Bell
I put it in biz because businesses/ startups believe this is the one and only solution for software delivery. The only two things they hear is cheap and quick and the dogma convinces the minions its equitable and easier.
That being said its gone well beyond software but from my experience In the last 3 positions over 7 yrs its been expensive, chaotic and risky.
But businesses will still swear by it and pay shit loads over the long term to "Get it right".
Probably had my rant here as many devs are here so a job posting with Agile is a red flag to watch for. Googling Agile sweatshops should say enough.
The succesor is called its predecessor, waterfall or just fucking get on with how the biz naturally feels whats best b/w stakeholders
Jacob Carter
Agile is good. Most people don't do agile. They are doing some weird ass micromanagement shit where they track the points every dev does. What happens is people just sandbag the shit out of everything they do to exaggerate the points. And there's always the one guy who is a good programmer but doesn't realize he has to play the game and so never gets any recognition. But its like that in ever industry. The best people rarely get the most recognition.
Ironically, I find agile/kanban to be very useful for my personal projects.
Levi Richardson
couldn't disagree more. BDD and CI have made programming tolerable. it makes dev faster (anything you're manually doing to test, automate it!) and makes your code way buggier in the long run.
i have a guy whose code breaks all the time. he writes shit tests and i don't think it's a coincidence~
Joseph Garcia
oh man don't get me started about agile workstations..holy fuck no privacy!!
The beauty of agile is its iterative approach. Iteration is actually the key to good development and an amazing final product.
Jose Lewis
Ah thats a different kettle of fish. But thats what the business wants, and thats what the agile coaches make their money.
Jonathan Lee
For the last 3 years I've worked remote at the most layed back dev position I ever imagined having. Small team... results oriented... low stress... lot's of autonomy... only had to deal with two 15 minute meetings a week. Now a few weeks ago my manager has adopted the agile methodology and shit has gone downhill fast. It's over. I'm actively looking for a new job again. Fucking sucks. I was legit asked to start recording my time for every single little task I do in jira. Nononononon mm mmm mmmm.
That's the thing. Agile apologists specifically stress that estimates are never supposed to be based on time or be tracked per person. Only per group to track velocity. But it seems always turn into exactly that. Individuals getting micromanaged to report their time spend doing each task. On one hand you can't really blame agile for that, because that's not agile its some bastardized system, but that's what it frequently ends up turning into. A system where people are rewarded based on how many points or how much time they can make up instead of the actual results they produce.
Ayden Morris
Fucking A man. I work in an "Agile" shop for a huge company, and the higher ups are on another round of meddling because teams aren't "doing Agile properly", which means everyone isn't their particular by-the-book flavor of scrum. This backfires on them every time but they still waste money and alienate the good developers. 3 months until their match to my 401k vests and I'm getting the fuck out of here
Liam Ramirez
Kevin? We need to talk in the morning.
Xavier Perez
My company is building a new product, and continues to try to push this agile/scrum/Sprint faggotry.
I am on the CX side of the company, so all I see are the outcomes, and it is honestly intermittently devastating to our job and the roadmap in general. The sacrifice of QA and forsight in what you are doing just to go faster, score points and close Stories results in features that TECHNICALLY work, but are full of bugs and/or not useful without all the things they left out and left for "iteration 2-6".
