Which ancient history was overestimated?
Which ancient history was overestimated?
Cameron Wood
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Austin Turner
nordic
Adrian Bennett
nordic
Oliver Robinson
How?
Grayson Bell
Vikings were less of a civilization and more of a powerful band of barbarians.
Jackson Ramirez
Nordic
Because your Gods are almost as known as Greek Gods.
Nicholas Wood
1, Vikings aren't ancient nordic history. Its vendels.
2, Define barbarians
Anthony Foster
what does mythology have to do with history?
Brody Gray
Egypt
Completely overhyped
Non-romans
Alexander Clark
Nordic obviously, and Chinese as well : all the hipsters who want to convince you that Europe isn't the place where History happens always go crazy over China, but it's plain shit.
On the other side, I'd say that the Etruscan civilization is severely underestimated.
Jackson Collins
Chinese by far, justly rated Roman, a little under rated GREECE, Egypt is justly rated, Maya is a bit underrated, mosques are NOT ancient
Jace Perez
>Nordic
Isnt the thread about ancient history ?
Brayden Price
Etruscan civilization is very overrated, they were just superstitious retards who copied Greece and got steamrolled by savages after like two centuries after their useless civilization had begun, the only thing they got going is their weird """mysterious""" language
Jack Hill
You only say that precisely because you are italian, and it can't be overrated because nobody knows they existed
Carter Reyes
Then arent you saying they are underrated just as retarded then since we have little to nothing left of them ?
Lincoln Hernandez
Most of the people who are slightly interested in ancient history know they existed
Dominic Richardson
There are a lot of artifacts they left but and yeah they're nice and everything I guess but it's nothing that ancient Greece hadn't already done before, people say "hurrr dem romans were savages the etruscans civilized them" but they forget that the etruscans were just like the romans until the Greeks civilized them around 700 bc, they're nothing special, they just became civilized like 100 or 200 years before the Romans
Connor Collins
all except Greek and Roman
Henry Reed
Are you retarded? Vikings were mostly traders and settlers, not pirates and raiders. They were incredible sailors and ship builders too.
Brody Sanchez
>Egypt
What?
The longest empire ever existed.
Oliver Ward
Vikings were a great civilization and you are a idiot
Another idiot
This
And this
Noah King
savages on boats
somalis of the medieval age
and nobody cares
Justin Kelly
Yeah but that's not most people
Jordan Robinson
No, Egypt deserve its title.
Alexander Bell
Most understimated:
>Mongols
That side of history is almost totally ignored if not just rapidly rushed on, without mongols Russia would not exist, even Turkey and Ottoman empire.
>Celts
Not much historycal information, but they are totally ignored.
Christopher Cooper
mongols are extremely overestimated
they just ruined everything without a purpose
hit and run manlets
Hunter Flores
Except Somalis never built their own boats and explored other continent hundreds of years before expeditions financed by southern european Kingdoms.
Leo Butler
They shaped the entire Asia.
Jose Scott
they were too stupid to know that they "discovered" a new continent
yeah who cares about asia?
Benjamin Ross
>they were too stupid to know that they "discovered" a new continent
Just like Columbus then
Kevin Brown
Actually, recent scholarship suggests that Columbus did in fact know that he was no where near India. He was a Cartographer by trade, and well versed in navigation. It is highly unlikely that he could have made so drastic a mistake. The idea that it all happened completely by accident was the theory advanced sixty years ago by Samuel Eliot Morrison. That theory has now been discounted.
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Logan Baker
Celts are not ignored, they're overrated as hell
Nolan Perez
mesoamerica
Parker Morris
South American "civilizations". They didn't even invent the wheel. Literally n*gger tier
Josiah Ross
t. nordoid
Jayden Gray
>its another episode of spanish rape baby larping as aztec
Henry Butler
Mauryan, Gupta, Vijayanagra and Chola empires are consistently underestimated desu. They're barely talked about outside of India.
People know more about south American civs than the above guys.
I guess it's because many of their structures were destroyed by the later Muslim invasions. Sad desu.
Kevin Morales
Hallstat is like 600-500 bc and Olmec masks are like 1000 bc
Carson Rogers
>his ancestors needed mechanical help to manhandle things but ended underperforming anyway
lmoa
>It has been speculated that the Maya solved this urban transportation problem by constructing a 100-meter long suspension bridge across the wild river in the late 7th century. The bridge which featured three spans extended from a platform on the grand plaza of Yaxchilan crossing the river to the northern shore. The 63 meter center span remained the longest in the world until the construction of the Italian Trezzo sull'Adda Bridge in 1377
>"They agreed to work at it viribus et posse, and began at once to divide the task between them, and I must say that they worked so hard, and with such good will, that in less than four days they constructed a fine bridge, over which the whole of the men and horses passed. So solidly built it was, that I have no doubt it will stand for upwards of ten years without breaking —unless it is burnt down — being formed by upwards of one thousand beams, the smallest of which was as thick round as a man's body, and measured nine or ten fathoms (16.8-18m) in length, without counting a great quantity of lighter timber that was used as planks. And I can assure your Majesty that I do not believe there is a man in existence capable of explaining in a satisfactory manner the dexterity which these lords of Tenochtitlan, and the Indians under them, displayed in constructing the said bridge: I can only sav that it is the most wonderful thing that ever was seen."
- Cortes, Fifth Letter of Relation to Charles V
I'm a mutt regardless so might as well
Angel Cox
I've never heard of an Italian defending Vikings.
Aaron Perez
>>It has been speculated that the Maya solved this urban transportation problem by constructing a 100-meter long suspension bridge across the wild river in the late 7th century.
Speculated or did it exist?
Joshua White
>pisslam
>ancient
Negatory. Most underrated ancient civs would be in India and Persia.
Ayden Gutierrez
>Learn that their history began in 2333 BC
Korea
Michael James
>I guess it's because many of their structures were destroyed by the later Muslim invasions
I think it's more than india is like china and has a long civilization, but it's more based on a society, and instead of conquering other areas getting conquered by others, who do little to change society
when a king would rather go meditate than rule doesn't help
south and central america get more attention because american schools want hispanics to feel good about themselves
Ian Powell
>The ruins of the structure were investigated and reconstruction was created using computer simulation, remote sensing, and archaeoengineering techniques by Engineer James A O'Kon PE. The results were presented to the archaeological and engineering world in the pages of National Geographic magazine in 1995.
Mesos were even better than that anyway
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>By 1500 BC early Olmec sculptors mastered the human form.[33] This can be determined by wooden Olmec sculptures discovered in the swampy bogs of El Manati.[33]
Owen Wilson
King arthur was a real person and stonehenge was made by his mage, Merlin.
Samuel Perez
>Persia
The largest Zoroastrian pop is in India today rather than actual Iran.
>but it's more based on a society, and instead of conquering other areas getting conquered by others
Well to be fair India and china themselves are pretty vast and Empires like Cholas had a naval presence and established vassals in SEA.
They were conquest driven but didn't strive for conquest beyond a certain extent.
But I disagree on changes to society each of the major dynasties changed how they administrated, water war, built structures etc...
Brayden Barnes
Wooden not Jade retard
Hudson Anderson
So high tech speculation?
Arthur was a she.
Jack Roberts
Ancient Britain is absolutely pathetic. Practically no creations of their own which survived to even the middle ages. Roman monuments hardly exist either.
Blake Turner
>But I disagree on changes to society each of the major dynasties changed how they administrated, water war, built structures etc.
ok
I read in that book though how people were divided by caste/occupation and other than how your group was doing you wouldn't care about much else
James Collins
Who is overestimating ancient Britain?
Liam King
Only 4 out the 6 civilizations in your pic are ancient.
The other 2 are 1000-3000 years after the 4 ancient ones.
Angel Stewart
Greek, easy.
Ethan Rogers
>Arthur has pussy.
How did the Jap's epidemic spread to India?
Blake Parker
Sneaky Albanian immigrant in Russia. Jealous of Greeks.
Kayden Russell
Jealous of what exactly? Stealing shit from Minoans?
Easton Miller
Americans. We have this idea that Brits in the middle ages looked in splendor of the ancient Roman monuments surrounding them. Imagine my disappointment when I discovered the lack of culture.
Joseph Barnes
there's some on Jow Forums
it's based on caesar saying that druids forbid their knowledge to be in writing, but that historical locations were built in accordance of ratios and directions that would enable navigation across the atlantic
Jaxson Sullivan
>Mask and hands from the tumulus Kr ll-Schmidt Kogel in Kleinklein, Austria. They were metal decorations of a wooden urn for ashes collected after cremation. See 07-01-03 / 1-3, 07-02-02 / 27. Sheet bronze. Height mask 23 cm, hands 15 cm. Location: Landesmuseum Joanneum, Graz, Austria.
can't find the date but i remember it around 1500 you cherrypicking piece of shit
1. it was built in the jungle so no maintaining after the city was abandoned
2. high tech required to speculate doesn't mean it didn't exist, pic related
Logan Diaz
A good reclamation project
Gabriel Hernandez
success breeds jealousy you slavic subhuman
Cameron Martinez
I am Greek.
Isaiah King
egypt, its like they have been a province of another country for 99% of their history
Charles Flores
>Innocent Lake
>YEAH DRY IT!
Why do wypipo do this?
Austin Rogers
>norwegian education
Ayden Campbell
>People who get super-specific with their argument in a desperate attempt to be "technically right."
Pepe, I-
Henry Thomas
Haha que pelo
Gabriel Stewart
they've been virtually a colony of every people they border or have bordered the persians conquered them twice, the greeks ruled over them for centuries, they were a roman province for a long fucking time, they got arab'd so hard they adopted their language, they were conquered by the turks and some weird arab slave people and to top it all of they were a part of britain
Jeremiah Robinson
...
Brandon Stewart
Israel
Isaac Jones
Persians invaded them in 500ish BC. They already existed as a civilization for almost 3000 years before that. Egypt was the only east empire to survive the Bronze Age Collapse.
> the greeks ruled over them for centuries
So what? Half of Europe was ruled by German dynasties. Ptolemaic Egypt was a prosperous kingdom.
Landon Allen
The weird arab people you're talking about aren't even arab. They were turkic and circassian slaves called mamlukes.
Also, Egypt was ruled by France briefly during Napoleon's North African campaigns. Egypt was briefly a province of Assyria at one point, and was conquered by the kushites at another point in history. It was also part of the Palmyrene Empire for 3 years during the crisis of the 3rd century iirc.
Logan Wilson
Africa has a wired but interesting history they skipped the iron age in west Africa and produced so we'll Crafted brass and intrecate art work.
They produced works of art that amazed Europeans
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>The inhabitants of Igbo-Ukwu had a metalworking art that flourished as early as the ninth century. Three sites have been excavated, revealing hundreds of ritual vessels and regalia castings of bronze or leaded bronze that are among the most inventive and technically accomplished bronzes ever made. The people of Igbo-Ukwu, ancestors of present-day Igbo, were the earliest smithers of copper and its alloys in West Africa, working the metal through hammering, bending, twisting, and incising. They are likely among the earliest groups of West Africans to employ the lost-wax casting techniques in the production of bronze sculptures. Oddly, evidence suggests that their metalworking repertory was limited and Igbo smiths were not familiar with techniques such as raising, soldering, riveting, and wire making, though these techniques were used elsewhere on the continent."[5]
Europeans also tried to claim that african civilization was the result of some lost European civilization
Kayden Diaz
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Actually somalians were expert seamen who defeated the Portuguese in navel warfare.
Cameron Foster
I'd say Romans, despite being great conquerors they basically copied everything from the Greeks. An underrated civilization would be Khmer but idk if that counts as ancient.
Juan Gomez
>interesting
nothing about them is interesting maymun
Gabriel Moore
this is a manipulative latino with an inferiority complex towards whites
go to the archives and look for posts with this flag
Wyatt Barnes
YOU AGAIN FUCK YOU
Julian Stewart
Aztecs weren't ancient
Andrew Nelson
they had the wheel but only used for toys I think
>We have this idea that Brits in the middle ages looked in splendor of the ancient Roman monuments surrounding them.
they did
Luke Ortiz
He never sleeps.
Daniel Hall
Pic related, most overrated countries in human history
Ancient, medieval and especially modern history
This wogoids look and dress like a bad copy of Travolta, act like monkeys and are waving with their arms while trying to communicate
Greasy and manletish appearance, their whole existence is highly overrated and they should be exterminated
Garlic and olive oil are shit
Hudson Kelly
Apparently they interesting enough for historians to say
>The Igbo-Ukwu bronzes amazed the world with a very high level of technical and artistic proficiency and sophistication which was distinctly more advanced than contemporary bronze casting in Europe.[2] Peter Garlake compares the Igbo-Ukwu bronzes "to the finest jewelry of rococo Europe or of Carl Faberge,"[3] and William Buller Fagg states they were created with "a strange rococo almost Faberge type virtuosity."[4] Frank Willett says that the Igbo-Ukwu bronzes portray a standard that is comparable to that established by Benvenuto Cellini five hundred years later in Europe.[5] Denis Williams calls them "an exquisite explosion without antecedent or issue."[6] One of the objects found, a water pot set in a mesh of simulated rope is described by Hugh Honour and John Fleming as
>A virtuoso feat of cire perdue (lost wax) casting. Its elegant design and refined detailing are matched by a level of technical accomplishment that is notably more advanced than European bronze casting of this period.[2]
Juan Nelson
angry slavshit
some noname historians writing about apes
Hunter Hall
WITH BYZANTINE SHIP TECHNOLOGY.
Evan Collins
Pretty cool, didn't know that. Except he's comparing modern day somali pirates with vikings
Wyatt Baker
its not cool somali maymun
Angel Brooks
Rothmans, William (25 February 2014). "Igwe Eze Calls On FG To Expand Roads". Orient Newspaper. Retrieved 19 April 2014.
Fidesnigeria (5 May 2013). "Tension Grips Igboukwu* Leadership Crisis, Gunmen Hold Town Hostage". Retrieved 19 April 2014.
British Museum Collection
Thurstan Shaw, Those Igbo-Ukwu radiocarbon dates: facts, fictions and probabilities, Journal of African History, 1975
Apley, Alice. "Igbo-Ukwu (ca. 9th century)". Metropolitan Museum of Art. Retrieved 2008-11-23.
Tyler Flores
Butthurt kraut.
Jack Bell
nobody is going to read this because you are black
Jonathan Fisher
Vikings are glorified rapists
Easton Turner
nordic somalis
Nicholas Phillips
Nathaniel Clark
You Arab devil
John Bailey
you are like the monkey in this thread
just a step above him
Jackson Allen
The romans had the decency to build roads after the killing.
Hunter Brooks
He is Greek, you newfag.
Oliver Wright
>they did
Please elaborate. The number of Roman monuments in Britain pales in comparison to any continental European country.