>“America has no culture”
>“American culture is cancerous”
Which one is it?
>“America has no culture”
>“American culture is cancerous”
Which one is it?
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neither
both
Both.
The complete vacuum destroys anything it touches.
kys
the no doesn't imply nothing, it is what is imagined as anti-culture, or as lay-men call it "global culture", so it is a negation of culture as culture
try to follow
Both. America has no culture besides being cancerous.
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americas lack of culture is cancerous.
I'm all for the apple pie, banjo-playing, and rock and roll.
But the 'pop/rap music' and 'movies' must stop. They're utterly degenerate.
Both
we made alot of great movies
More like, the rest of the world is destroying American culture by adopting it and making it no longer unique to America.
America has no culture, American has cancerous "culture".
this
america's culture is a pseudo-culture which isn't a real culture and is utterly despicable
What a hivemind this board has became
European nations have, or atleast used to have a folk culture. America used to have a folk culture too, but after the war a concept of popular culture developed, a culture based on trends instead of traditions and national identity.
>pointing out facts is considered 'hivemind' by migrants from reddit
The good:bad ratio must be at least 1:100.
American culture was so cancerous it died
> migrants from reddit
but Reddit doesn't like america.
Most of those posts were not facts but buzzwords that don't even understand the meaning of culture and are just biased against america
ahhh that's debatble but we do make alot of movies if you compare to other mass movie markets we are pretty good
well then go ask your questions in mutt land maybe then you will get a 56% approval rate.
reddit likes american culture
'buzzword' is a buzzword
totally not bored watching capeshit superhero #102
>america makes only capeshit
America has only pop culture and it's cancer
>emoji movie
The main form of culture exported by America (not the same as American culture itself), is the type of culture that is bought and consumed. Star wars or capeshit movies or beyonce albums etc.
This same consumerist mass-media culture also damages real American culture. The average young american man enjoys no cultural legends or stories that aren't copyright protected bland garbage, enjoys no holidays that aren't built around consumerism (perhaps maybe St. Patrick day honestly), and his only ties to the larger community are maybe a phone call from mom every few weeks (and no twitter and social media doesn't count).
Of course larger culture is still there, but there is a real rot going on and which has been going on for decades.
America does have a culture, but it's mostly dead and got replaced with mindless consumerism and other forms of pointless hedonistic existence that is easy to embrace due to how low effort it makes living but at the same time destroys all that is sacred and unique about a place's identity. For example, New England's sailor cultures, cowboys, frontiersmen, cajuns, etc. all had their own culture, yet very few people actually bother to uphold those cultures nowadays because it's easier to just move to a big city and be smug about the fact you can go to a big Apple store more easily than some dude who lives in rural Arkansas and plays banjo.
Even our pop culture was not always this bad - for example, D.W. Griffith was extremely influential in cinema despite making commercial films, and many arthouse directors owe a lot to techniques and styles he created. But over the years, the people who fund our popular ventures have realized that it's easier to repeatedly cash in on things people already know at the expense of actual creativity. Once in a blue moon, things like Mad Men or The Sopranos or Twin Peaks break the mold, but for the most part we have stagnated because it's easier that way. However, the average foreigner doesn't pay attention to the rare big budget artistic thing we make, because we don't bother exporting and advertising it. So all they know of our nation is our most brainless garbage cash-ins - capeshit, Emoji movies, toilet humor, etc.
you guys are still conflating pop culture with actual culture
Did you actually read my post? I literally said that popular culture replaced our actual individual cultures. Unless you're saying that you think that whaler culture, Cajun culture, and cowboy culture were all popular culture.
not him but what is actual culture in your view ?
>has became
And no, you didn't use some archaic grammer as a stylistic choice fuck off.
well it's.
also God forbid not to sprinkle the movies with hyper libshit and gay shit, amoirite?
>America has no culture
And that's exactly why
>American "culture" is cancerous
>Canadian talking shit about American culture
I don't know how to tell you this buddy, but...
Kek, saved.
>reddit likes american culture
are you retarded, redditards are always harping on about how much better le Nordic countries and Germany are at everything
Traditions is made of customs and stories which a a group of people have done collectively. Then, traditions make way for expression in forms of art and music, or maybe the way the houses are built, or how you dress or act. It is a relatively constant, contrary to pop culture, there is simply too much influences to keep it constant, it is doomed to change. The system is not the same however, because it is pushed not from to botomup, but from the topdown. It is directing the people, and the people are not directing the society.
Uhh no I didn't, read the first fucking line:
>The main form of culture exported by America (not the same as American culture itself), is the type of culture that is bought and consumed. Star wars or capeshit movies or beyonce albums etc.
>not American culture itself
The mass media marketed 'culture' in the USA has become a very powerful force on its own.
>Traditions is made of customs and stories which a a group of people have done collectively.
American folklore does exist
>Then, traditions make way for expression in forms of art and music,
country music, jazz and blues
Southern US has culture
when people say america has no culture, they're saying we don't have any traditional culture. a culture and/or tradition that dates back thousands of years, passed on through generations. and that is objectively true. since america is relatively a very young country, we don't really have a traditional culture intact. i mean what do we have, fourth of july and thanksgiving? what is a cultural food that we have? mashed potatoes, burgers, hot dogs? do we have any cultural clothing? nope.
when people say american culture is cancerous, they mean the pop culture. they're talking about the girls twerking in music videos, celebrities promoting degeneracy and materialism. drugs, guns, sex, violence. hollywood always including a raunchy sex scene in every movie. just that kind of stupid shit that further contributes to western degeneracy.
stfu
no. redditards like rick and morty
American food is more regional though
Which isn’t actually unique
Yeah I don’t know what the fuck he’s talking about. Reddit is a honeypot for bashing America.
But are you people or is this a reaction to other folk cultures?
He didn't say that Americans have no culture. Americans do. But especially for millennials etc. that culture is already dead or in the rapid process of being commodified.
Jow Forums likes and fellows american media too. What's your point?
>Jow Forums likes and fellows american media too
like what. also Jow Forums is also shit, but Jow Forums realizes that american media is also shit
>what is a cultural food that we have?
I can think of tons of traditional food for the region of America I live in. So is it only culture if it’s prevelent throughout the nation? I don’t really see your logic
what is /tv/,/co/,/v/,/tg/ ..
> Jow Forums realizes that american media is also shit
Jow Forums isn't one person . American media has both good and bad stuff just like any other media industry in the world
You niggers are confusing American culture for Modern culture
That’s pretty much the root of this retarded phrase
Yes truly the measure of somebody’s opinion of America is whether they like rick and morty. Brilliant post. Just like liking maple syrup means you love Canada.
Why do Canadians pretend they aren't Americans with a different label? Nobody outside NA can tell you two apart, you should thank Quebec every day because they're the only thing that makes you unique.
i mean besides the shit we eat at thanksgiving and introducing hamburgers and hot dogs to the world? what "traditional" delicacy does America have?
Modern culture is largely a product of the USA.
en.wikipedia.org
>delicacy
Go fuck yourself.
I can’t say nationwide, but there are plenty of food that are traditional to where I live
Barbecue, Corn Bread, Biscuits, Fried livers, Hash (you probably don’t know what that is), Sweet Tea, Hushpuppies, Grits and I could keep listing foods.
These are all foods that are native to america
Not really. North America is just the first victim
I’ll let you think about (((who))) it is a product of.
Stop replying to bait
>America has nothing but pop culture
Earnest Hemingway, Edgar Allan Poe, T.S. Elliot, William Faulkner, John Steinbeck, Henry James, Vladimir Nabokov, Mark Twain, etc.
Our literature game is inarguably top tier.
They spend so much time and energy talking shit about us amoung each other that the idea that we are basically the same threatens their entire concept of reality.
nah dude americans makes only rick and morty ,captain america 4 and eat only hamburgers with fried chicken
All those authors are long dead and the books mainly resigned to schools.
Also high culture is different than folk culture. Folktales and folk heroes are products of the people, not products of the elite.
we have folk culture to tho
Most of the authors Europeans gloat about having have been dead and buried for centuries, I don't see your point. The state of literature right now is bad in general.
You mean like, John Henry, Johnny Appleseed, Paul Bunyan, and Buffalo Bill?
America has no culture
American entertainment is cancerous
FTFY
American culture is cancerous
Everything created by humans is culture, even human sacrifice and dabbing.
America has no culture of its own so it just borrows things from other cultures but turns them cancerous
>how dare immigrants do immigrant stuff
Stop replying to bait
Pop culture is just a natural consequence of new cultures having broad exposure. It has absolutely nothing to do with the US’s culture or lack of it and everything to do with modern technology causing new ideas to spread fast and then be overtaken by other ideas just as fast.
Popular trends are just what was once normal culture except on a rapidly accelerated timeline of spreading and dying.
Don’t be ignorant. Americans have plenty of culture. For example they modify their diesel engines to blow out cancerogenic smoke on command and play with poisonous snakes to prove their love Jesus.
I'm sure they are dead, and any Italian pointing to Dante Aligheri as an example of the health of Italian culture would be an idiot.
European culture is also rapidly dying and is really only present in the countryside (if that). They blame American culture for this, I don't know how true that is but that's the allegation.
long gone, seen mostly in history books.
men this thread makes me sad and I thought Jow Forums was getting slightly less anti american these days
I agree with with the first half of your post about pop culture replacing a large amount of native culture but disagree with your claim of traditions and national culture disappearing, instead I see them being absorbed into one's personal identity. Being American has become a nebulous concept and people are no longer content with just being an American. They prefer to identify with other sub-groups on top of being American, some groups are based on race, some are based on sexuality, and some even prefer to identify themselves by their hobbies. America has exported this idea to other western nations and as the people who wish to belong to other groups grow the idea of the national identity becomes different for all involved expanding to be able to fit all or just being abandoned entirely.
American has never been an ethnic identity you retard
I'm not anti-American. I want Americans to have better than what they get, and American culture is sick.
Why would it? The world is becoming more and more anti-American with every new tweet. You must be living in some seriously isolating bubble of a very limited information regime to suffer from such deluded phantasms.
> with every new tweet.
wut? I don't use twitter and Jow Forums isn't always an accurate refection of the world
America very clearly has a culture...
the correct one is saying america has no culture AND is cancerous
He was probably assuming, rather naively, that Europeans aren’t dipshits who can understand that the US is a loosely aligned collective of people with very different opinions from each other instead of hating all Americans because they hate some things about America.
>every new tweet.
What?
You really couldn't figure this one out?
I don't care about celebrity politics and never used twitter in my life
both, you're a cultural black hole
Do random Europeans refresh Donald Trump's twitter account all day and clutch their pearls and curse the Americans every time...Donald Trump...tweets?
Like is this a thing, or is this just one super retard Germoid?
I don't follow twitter but if I did I can't imagine following German or Canadian president or getting buttmad at the entire nation of Canada every time the Canadian president tweets. There's a lot of shit to hate the USA for but Donald Trump tweets? Are you kidding?
Fuck I don't even follow Donald Trump on twitter and he's my fucking president! International-tier butthurt over twitter drama, really?
It changes every day depending on who starts the shitty thread first
Eh. Normies talk about it over the watercooler if it was really controversial, make a joke at the expense of americans and go on with their day.
Talk shows fan the embers of this controversy for less than a week and everyone collectively forgets about it.
>Do random Europeans refresh Donald Trump's twitter account all day and clutch their pearls and curse the Americans every time...Donald Trump...tweets?
Yes except not just Europeans, it includes all the people who don't like him in the USA and those that don't like him in the Anglosphere among other places.
It's all so tiring...
I can't imagine talking to a normie in the USA about what the Dutch president said on twitter. You'd be seen as a turbo autist and a weirdo.
Trump is a really divisive guy even among Republicans and is a very unique president in our history, he's our first president who really doesn't give a fuck about decorum or any of ye olde classical American principles (well you can argue no president does, but Trump doesn't even pretend). Makes sense if Americans are refreshing his twitter page and clutching their pearls. Honestly I even give a pass to Canadians (even if its a little weird) because they are our twin cousins so whatever.
Random Germans across the ocean? En masse? Getting more and more angry at all Americans every time he fucking posts a tweet? wtf.
Germans hate America the most out of every developed country bud. This is from before Trump was president
Thats because we are a small, unknown, conformist cornor of german with a president to boot. It's not really the same.