What did people think and except about joining to the EU?
Here everybody was very optimistic. People thought that by this a new era of prosperity. People thought that joining EU will mend the scars created by communism. The government campaigned with the slogans like "By joining the EU, anyone will be able to open shop in Vienna". Only a very few people thought that EU is a scheme by rich Western elites to colonize our country. Of course they were branded as retards and they were laughed at by the general public.
People thought it was the quickest way to stop being poor. It was probably the truth. Getting rich takes a long time. People had unrealistic expectations.
>Of course they were branded as retards and they were laughed at by the general public. And rightly so
Charles Garcia
Ikr
Oliver Jackson
PROS: I can move out of this shithole CONS: Transylvanian independence was set back
Austin Davis
Well, we thought that when we will Join EU we will have equal Laws and Order, that the corruption will decrease, and mostly that.
We were colonized by Germans right after the fall of the comunizm, and the situation couldn't be worse than that, so it wasn't dissapointing. Poland was struggling to maintain it's own market.
What was disappointing for us imo, was disappointing for everyone, including western europeans. During the economic crisis, EU government coudln't handle the pression. They were stuck without any solutions, and Germans with Angela Merkel on the lead, tried to dictate what to do, for other nations of EU. EU needed strong leadership, but Angela Merkel didn't knew much about cultures of Eastern Europ, she ignored our history and fear of loseing freedom and self control. She was not prepeared to rule the whole EU, but she tried to.
Evan Jackson
>he is not even part of the eurozone >he recieves a lot more Eu gibs that it gives >still complains
Carson Myers
the same as you their brainwashing has gone very well and is rooted on our society hopefully we will never join it
Even some lefties were pretty vary of the whole thing and it seemed pretty likely that we would lose a lote of sovereignity by joining. So we decided against it eventually.
Tyler Martinez
>waaaah brussels halfassedly made us take a few niggers >moscow please save us extremely dumb&shortsighted post
Tyler Myers
About the same here. And now all the zoomers think that without EU nobody could travel anywhere. Maybe they haven't heard of passports.
Henry Rivera
The general hungarian public is dumb.
You let your goverment get away with too much.
We tend to do that too.
It's a leftover of authoritarianism.
Brody White
Then why the fuck don't you move out you subhuman piece of shit
Brody Barnes
Because I'd rather not Still, it's nice to have the option when your kind (regățeni) completely invade Transylvania and completely destroy our cultural heritage, or what's left of it
Landon Jackson
>I suffer with 5% growth.
Luke Torres
>i have 1 thing now i have 1.05 things after 5% growth >you have 10 things so now i have 10.01 things after 1% growth >somehow its better to have 1.05 things
western education
Liam Davis
We have economy 10 times smaller than France or Germany. When we have 5% growth and you have 1% growth, we are still falling behind even further.
John Richardson
You are integrated into western supply chain. Your growth is directly linked to the wellbeeing of western economy
Fuck the eu, fuck the people in charge, fuck your "ideas" and leave my country alone you stupid commies
Ryan Murphy
You have over 5 times larger economy. Our 5% growth is less than your 1% growth. We would need at least 7-8% growth for decades to even start catching up
Hudson Gonzalez
If it was to me, I would build a wall around Switzerland and let nobody in or out
Adam Smith
>Ignoring that France population is 1.75 time bigger than Poland
>5 times larger economy >less than twice the population jeanpierre, you are either in school or you need to go back to school
Andrew Taylor
People didn't like the € but apart from that you don't notice much. The free travel is nice and I hope we can be fully self sufficient inside the EU someday
Jose Gutierrez
nobody can get a job in Spain, a union with people from such different cultures doesn't work
Leo Ross
i'm voting for VOX, the Spaniards will follow the same way as the Italians
Jayden Fisher
>VOX Is that a right wing Podemos?
Caleb Wright
yes, they are far right wing, a lot of young people will vote for them.
Grayson Powell
EU is a scam in which you get German taxpayer money so that jews can do business in your cunt
Juan Diaz
You must be more competitive
They are making even seats now in Czechia and have thousands of open positions
Austin Murphy
Okay, you absolute, utter, irremediable brainlet. 469 500 000 000 * 1,05 - 469 500 000 000 = 23 475 000 000 nominal growth per year 23 475 000 000 / 38 442 346 = 610,65 nominal growth per year per inhabitant 2 465 000 000 000 * 1,015 - 2 465 000 000 000 = 36 975 000 000 nominal growth per year 36 975 000 000 / 67 795 000 = 545,39 nominal growth per year per inhabitant
tl;dr for your atrophied brain: Poland is growing faster than western countries.
Aaron Gonzalez
Outside looking in, The EU is under the thumb of America and Russia.
The only way forward is continuous economic production with German like engineering and giving up notions of autonomity.
James Kelly
>tfw i fell for the mobility meme I only voted to join to get a qt german gf. Still hasn't happened.
And you wonder why Europe hates you fucking krauts!?
Dylan Williams
the only way for Spain to become competitive again is to return to the peseta and leave this euro scam
Kayden Sanchez
EU is an US vassal and it was designed in a way to keep it divided and weak Our only hope is a strongman taking over and creating an EU military to establish EU as a souvereign entity
Oliver Green
So you can devaluate and become poorer
Wonderful idea
Asher Brown
Because I'm speaking the truth? Countries like you and Norway are just disgusting in my opinion. You act all high and mighty when in reality every shithole could conquer you if you weren't surrounded by 3 large countries
Angel Johnson
There were promises that food and cars would become much cheaper. The opposite happened
Jason Miller
>introduce Euro >1€ = 166 pesetas >everything becomes more expensive even if it keeps the "same" price >global economic crysis hits >government raises taxes instead of lowering them >things are even more expensive >spain is poor and in eternal siesta forever
Nolan Anderson
German women are ugly and manly
Elijah Cox
how different are germ women from british women? i wouldnt be able to differentiate in a side-by-side pic of both
So what we do, we have a terrible unemployment rate since 10 years ago and nothing changes
Adrian Moore
Both are very promiscuous, loud, and unfeminine. Generally speaking.
Eli Bailey
They're not that bad bro come on
Jayden Long
german girls are very ugly and if you cut their hair they look like men
Carter King
You realize our deficit was because of reuinification and east germany being a post-commie shithole?
Xavier Turner
East Asia need EAU.
Ethan Johnson
I think spanish girls look more masculine. The only redeeming quality is that they are smaller
Anthony Baker
move to a different country eventually the inverted population pyramid collapses in spain and we dont have to pay for the retirement of 10 million old farts
Jackson King
ITT: Slavs blaming the west that their corrupt governments steal all the free Euro moneys.
Jeremiah Adams
Japan needs to physically relocate to where the UK is. You can have the UK
Eli Russell
Can’t be done unless USA falls apart. The British and Soviets have already fallen with british losing the commonwealth and Russians losing the balkans.
Your hope is to wait for an American collapse. I would side with the Russians to keep sowing seeds in America covertly.
Then, your strongmen will obviously come back to power.
Alexander Williams
Norway voted against Central European rule in 1994, in 1972 and in 1945.
How shit was east Germany compared to West after the wall fell? How badly did gommunism fuck it up?
Jason Campbell
whatever you say...
Nathan Howard
>saying 1994, 1974, 1946 >not 1946, 1974, and 1994 Why do foreigners do this?
Noah Reyes
America lost several conflicts in the middle east, and Trump doesn't seem to be intersted in NATO. It might be the case that the American Hegemony might fall soon
David Perez
The punchline is usually at the end, but it's okay, I don't expect a British autist to understand.
William Ross
You don't have a functioning army. Norway does.
Aaron Brown
Very badly, you can still see it today. A large part of it was immigration to the west and all the large companies also moving to the west. We have this solidary tax were we gave them 2 trillion € over a 30 year period but they are starting to do fine. A large plus is also that they have almost no immigrants apart from Berlin
this was never the question mentally challanged frog, the question was its never going to catch up and your little attempt at being smart shows it perfectly
Brandon Myers
the topic was about expectations not blaming but nice try bavarian scum
Jordan Cruz
The only question is, How would an American collapse look like.
This American's revulsion of NATO and alliances has occurred before after the World War. I think it would start with Americans pulling their military out of Europe. An anti-war movement in America against the Middle Eastern wars, and eventually pulling out of Africa, which would leave Africa/Middle East free-for-all.
An American isolationism means German salvation.
I'm afraid India is out of the picture for re-conquesta though.
Alexander Reed
g*Rmanoids and bozgors don't have the right to have a culture
Thomas Cruz
You have none to begin with
Juan Parker
This. We probably have the most expensive food in the EU and we drive the shittiest cars.
Nathaniel Flores
Norway always succumbs to either Russia or Germany. It might take time, but Germany can rebuild its army in 10-20 years if left alone which America will quite possibly do.
I disagree. I think they're the prettiest women in Europe.
Adrian Nelson
lol we could rebuild way quicker. We are the 3rd largest weapon exporter and have all the industry here.
Sebastian Ortiz
It took 15 years after WWI. There's need to construct naval bases, nuclear facilities plus re-train troops for occupation.
Since your army has been made defensive oriented, Conservative estimate is 10-20 years.
Camden Gonzalez
There's also the morale aspect. The average German is nowhere near geared into going on an aggressive, expansionist campaign much less than enlisting. The highly disciplined and aggressive Wehrmacht came after years of financial ruin, misery, inflation, poverty and general malaise. At some point people get tired of victimhood and seek for revenge.
Gavin Lewis
The Indian is correct. However, a single army unit without proper training or equipment could occupy all of Norway in a few hours. Our military is a joke and have been for decades. It's literally official doctrine that if Russia invades, the army should hold them back for 24 hours or until NATO arrives.
Jack Foster
most countries just want gibs
David Cook
I was a bit surprised at this point. Are not Germans and Swiss a relative? Are ordinary people in Swiss not friendly to Germans?
Juan Harris
Jajajaja you tried
Justin Hughes
It's much easier to defend than to attack. It would take like 1 year to fully remilitarize and become the strongest army in europe if we wanted to. But I'm okay with the NATO status quo, alltough we should aim for better relations with Russia but that's another story
Nah I like them, just not their arrogance
Jason Harris
Beside /pol memes we really like it. What we do not like though is when western countries try to prach us when it comes to solidarity lol.
Jonathan Hall
>when it comes to solidarity lol. You've received those gibs out of solidarity so is it too much to ask you would contribute something?
Michael Murphy
Where are the nuclear facilities though? It took the soviets 4 years to develop a nuclear bomb. Can't become the strongest army in Europe when France and UK both have a fully functioning nuclear arsenal.
No doubt you will become the strongest in Europe easily.
You will eventually get cosy with Russia once America becomes isolationist.
Michael Hernandez
>You've received those gibs out of solidarity so is it too much to ask you would contribute something?