Which posters overrate their countries history and achievements. And which countries are underrated by everyone?

this is accurate

Outside of the Roman Empire, you've never held too much importance.
Italy is praised to shit on Jow Forums, Sweden is trashed. They had an interesting history and an empire, you know? Finland included because of their contributions within the empire and the winter war

ye fuck those brown shits, DA NORF is the greatest EMPIRE

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The basque country and the 50 provinces of sporadic basque population that may be minimal in the south and other parts.

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I never said or implied that it's because of your skin colour, it seems like you can't make the distinction between overrated and bad. I never said Italy had an uninteresting history, just that it isn't as grand as people make it. It doesn't compete with Spain, France, Germany or Britain for example.

nordic as fuck. Prussian German ethnicity.

>Germany underrated
how's vacation, Hans?

Overrated I'd say sweden only.
They bring up carolus rex and all that fucking nigger shit but all they did was backstab Poland and being fucking niggers

Honestly every european country that was birn out of subjugation of other european countries are overrated nigger messes.
You did nothing but undermine european hegemony over the world.
Especially france and germany,this teo deserve to be culturally and ethnically enriched and their mutt spawns must learn in school about why this happened.They will learn that they are fucking black as charcoal because they kept atacking european countries.
You are the white race enemy

xD

DAMN right

learn 2 history dweeb

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He's a fatass lol

Modern Italians haven't done shit though. It's Rome that was the real shit

>yea dudw bro in 2000 years of immigrants slaves and population movement
>i am roman

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Italian_inventions

Vacation is over, time to return in France Varg (Louis Cachet)

DAS RITE

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Renaissance and shit. Unironically.

I must unite the Germanic Iberian Basque people under one flag.

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Yes, terroni are nafris and arabe/jews by fact.

All of that is impressive, don't get me wrong, but it's not on the level on Britain for example that created the modern world. I called Sweden underrated because they're regularly portrayed as useless savages with no achievements when there has been many. Hell, Sweden rank 2nd place in inventions per capita.

Daily muhh history, we wuz gr8 n shieet.
what matter is what happens now. Most of we wuzzer are shitholes now

>per capita

lol

No need to be a spoilsport.

I don't see Finland between the G7
You might even be richer than us but what matter is what your nation contribute to humanity, what's the finnish fingerprint on humanity?
The kernel Linux? Nokia?
Still too little

Yeah nice job defuting my points

You shitpost here because Finnish companies does stuff

if you remove "per capita" Scandinavia becomes as relevant as Indonesia

>if you remove the value each person produces
Sicily is Africa.

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It is easy ti create the modern world while having 1/4 of the land for you
The hegemony on the world is what snowball countries into the top positions
It's not a wonder USA is now the most forefronter on a lot of field
Having your language being spoken everywhere also help

Cmon I tought Norway had a better education system
Every Norwegians on Jow Forums is unironically closed minded

Ha, we're talking about history here and not Scandinavia as a whole. Sweden was a major and relevant power at one point wheter you like it or not, it's why I called them underrated. If you remove Roman Empire, Italy isn't that much either. You were never a major power on the same scale of Britain for example but you had the potential to be. You had the population and geography Sweden never had. Maybe Sweden wasn't as major as Britain again, but they were not someone to ignore. They waged wars on the mainland and even went against Russia.

Nordics compined would be like 10. biggest economy in the world with population 25m. We superpower now

scandinavian countries are civilized, rich and clean unlike italy which is a dirty violent shithole run by a criminal organization.
in shitaly people literally empty trash in the streets and pickpocketing is taught to children from an early age so they don't have to get a job.

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The modern world is there result of:

colonialism (spain, portugal)
humanism (italy)
reformation (germany)
enlightenment (france)
industrial revolution (britain)

retards

t. Retard
>what's Renaissance

How can you guys being so much cancer

Ignoring the idiot talking about per capita
Still you aren't much better cherrypicking shitholes while using buzzwords like shitaly

no culture
no history

at least you have money :)

Finland has literally been leading the infotechnological revolution. From Nokia to Linux to SMS to the internet browser to modern data networks without Finland and Finns the modern society simply wouldn't exist. Sure Americans are great at the corporate game, but Finns are the real inventors.

Sweden alone was historically more relevant than the nation of Italy. Quite funny if you think about it considering your massive population

Britain is quite overrated.
Spain and Italy are underrated.

Again, nice job defuting my points.

my sides

Daily reminder Renaissance was kickstarted by Byzantine refugees.

Useless when Finnish nerds end up leaving for USA
We are in a global age, today the dick lenght contest between countries is useless

you only talk about military history, anyway you nordics already showed ITT that you're just a bunch of racist white supremacists

>defuting
detard

Just consider yourself lucky that you had so many countries separating us from you. God knows nothing of your pretty old cities would remain had you been our neighbours

Here's your point that you carefully ignored

Now back to as it is clear you only want to bait and be baited

all "italian" success is due to greek influence, this is well-known

The med vs nord arguments on this board as so fucking autistic. You faggots need to get a gf and chill the fuck out.

deluded incel

Chinese, Mexicans and Indians have subverted the shit out of USA through the "dick length contest between countries". They take a LOT of American wealth and knowledge and transfer it back to their countries. It's only fair to give credit to Finns for their independent achievements.

only when they'll stop overrating their irrelevant frozen shitholes

>Overrated
Clearly Germany
>Underrated
USA, yes it's not a very old country, but they have a fascinating history (well except when they killed the based Amerindians) and did so much for humanity

I'd rather live in their countries than yours, that's all that matters. What someone did 2000 years ago is irrelevant.

Bro c'mon, your biggest leader got btfo by Russians and since then you've been completely irrelevant. People think of you as that cold socialist country that puts refugees over its own people, nothing more.

then britain is irrelevant

rich good
poor bad

>your biggest leader
Carolus was not even close to our biggest leader, he was the King who lost Finland.

>completely irrelevant
Yes, I agree, at least in modern times.

>Russians
worse, croatians

I never want to strip Finnish accomplishment away from them
But sadly for them, they were late in the game of invention
In our modern world we might as well stop talking about the nationality of an inventor as said inventor:
1) most likely is not a single person but a team of researchers
2) said person or group of persons are being shaped by the whole world through international papers provided by a worldwide network of knowledge

All that matters is whether a country is good now. You're not living 2000 years ago.

do you think britain is good now

read the OP you spastic IQ-let

Since you keep denying our accomplishments it is quite clear you never studied much of our history at all.

nordic history is just

>vikings
>involvement in 30 years war

the rest is completely irrelevant

Well right, but you can't deny a ton of research come from American universities for example. If a Finnish corporation makes multiple huge advances in telecommunications it's only right to credit the inventions to Finland.

Who was it then? Gustav?

Again, I'm just saying Italy is overrated in history. You were just never as important as the other European powers even if you like to pretend you were
Yeah nice generalizing, I've tried to keep this discussion civil but you are literally impossible to speak with.
Fine, I made a mistake twice, whatever.
Kek I never noticed that response
Why didn't Italy be more of a colonial power then? I'm sure you can tell me, maybe I'll learn something new. You had the population and geography on your side.

So all the scientific achievements, the inventions, the contributions to medicine and botany that happened during the Swedish empire means nothing to you?

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I made the OP, Medicci.
I didn't intend for you faggots to start sperging out like a pack of incels.
It's better than it has ever been.

>Gustav?
Which one mate? Almost all our kings are named Gustav. Anyway it was pic related

>Italy
>1
oh NO NO NONO NO

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everyone in europe had their fair share of scientific discoveries, your feats are nothing compared to continental europe

Sweden has the second highest amount of inventions per capita out of all countries on earth, only Scotland is higher. This is a clear indication that we are a very creative, industrious people despite our low population. Let's say there were 20 million Swedes, and you put them on an island the size of Japan. Then you put 20 million Italians on another island the same size. Which group do you think would invent the most things and create the better country?

If your population was that of Sweden, you'd have less acomplishments than Sweden.

Also I never denied that Italy has accomplished a huge amount of things. I am just saying that you are very ignorant when it comes to our history. I don't blame you for not being interested in it, but if you have no knowledge of it then don't speak of it, or you risk sounding like an american on Jow Forums.

if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bike

>what if sweden had 1 billion people?!?

>It's better than it has ever been.
why do angloids celebrate mediocrity

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Are you baiting us or are you actually a retard?

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Read OP,
Overrated by posters here not by the world

Stop thinking of muh roman empire, even if you don't want to consider that (for whatever reason) Italians kickstarted the Renaissance after medieval time, it seems that you underrate what Renaissance was

>Colonies
Italy did have coloniesz just like Germany we were late on the race as the country is only 157 years old
Also our city states had colonies all over the mediterranean sea
Just look for the Venetian or the Genoese Empire

Propaganda makes you believe Italy is not on par with Germany or France yet we are still on G7 while being 8th economy of the planet
Twenty years ago and for some period we reach the 4th position surpassing even West Germany
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_largest_historical_GDP

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Look at reality sweden will never have more swedish population.

to be fair, sweden didn't really invent anything substantial

ifs don't make history, neither do achievements "per capita"

>Which posters overrate their countries history and achievements.
USA, Poland

>And which countries are underrated by everyone?
India, Iran

We invented the Celsius temperature scale.
We invented fucking DYNAMITE, an extremely significant invention.

The zipper.
The fridge ( the first working version)
The pacemaker.
Tetra Paks.
Adjustable wrench, three point seatbelt.
Medical ultrasonic.

List goes on

china invented dynamite

Are you talking about gunpowder? Because that is a completely different thing. Dynamite was an entirely new concept and it was invented by a Swede, Alfred Nobel ( yes, the Nobel prize is named after him as well, but no big deal).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamite

ok, that makes you about Czechia tier

Italy is not even Czech republic tier desu

The famous one, the one you indeed posted.

dynamite is a derivative 'invention' of gunpowder so technically it's a chinese invention

No Chang, that's false.

I wonder why Chinese people aren't as innovative anymore. Maybe we'll see more Chinese breakthroughs in this century.

Leonardo and Galileo alone beat all that crap

>the fucking zipper