AS AN AMERICAN

What's it like being poor?

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grim
I make 3000€ after taxes which is barely enough to get by

No dream, No hope and makes me want to kill myself.

4000~$ you call that rich?

That's like three times my monthly income

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i dont care about anything, just a moment, simce i didnt ask G-d, nature, architect of the matrix to be born
i am an antinatalist
I dont want expensive car or house, phone. Just want to live simple life in a country where laws woek and people like german hitler style ordnung

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YOU ARE TOO RICH~~~~

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when i was poor i ate a lot of toast
today I'm rather rich and still eat a lot of toast, but drink more milk

I'm not rich but...

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No but that's what I have in my wallet at the moment.

> having physical cash
easiest way to spot a poorfag

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I kinda expected some loser to chime in. I have a few small businesses that take in cash. I take the cash buy money orders and pay my mortgage with it.

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Who even carries cash in 2018

You are like a little baby.
Watch this.

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>500k
>rich
My flat is worth quadruple your account balance you peasant

>1 billion
I am assuming this is showing a short buy or something?
Or a demo account

Anyone can mess with the html.

well, thats 3000 user, so you tell us.

do you have a family or something? because that is plenty unless youre up to your ears in debt.
1k-flat
1k(vast overestimation)-food and utilities
thats 1k left for savings a month..which isn't a ton..but thats worst case scenario. As a single dude in finland that should be plenty. my friends get by on MUCH less than that there.

how are you doing so badly.

cuz hes about to go buy a car or some shit, or sold it. so deals in cash. its most of what he has if I hadd to guess.

> rent
> 1k
still living with mommy and daddy i see?

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As an American, being poor is better than being a wage slave.

No, been on my own since I joined the army at 18. I dont want a wife or kids at the moment. Live pretty minimal because I travel so much. so I dont have a ton of belongings. Why would I ever get anything other than a studio or one bedroom.

you obviously dont understand rent over there either. All throughout europe rent was more affordable, or you got more for what you paid for than you do in the states, IME.

pipe down child.

fucking blows let me tell ya

Drug dealers.

It really isn't. At least as a wagie I have SOME control over my life.

This desu, I make 23kNOK/2400eur and it's not nearly enough to pay for my destructive alchoholism.

Alcoholism is a lot cheaper to maintain in like literally every other country besides Norway, I think.

The difference is I didn't touch the HTML. This is my checking account as well.

You're a retard. I have 2 properties, a warehouse, IRA, IUL. Why would I put more thant 500k into a checking account? Also I'm sure your flat looks like a rundown shack since you live in a buttfuck country.

I'm aware, but I'm glad I don't need to.

Like I said before, I have a couple of businesses that bring in some cash. I take the cash buy money orders and pay my mortgage with it. I probably wouldn't advise buying a $4000 vehicle unless you're broke.

I was a an engineer, it was OK. I started my own company, life is much much better.

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Yeah you have no idea.

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You can always come to burgerland and drink Busch Light in your trailer like a proper redneck.

Are you me? I spend like $200+ a week on alcohol. I get good stuff though.

What's your budget look like?

What's your job and income? Just curious how you can justify over $800/month to yourself. I'm not really a poorfag but during my fifteen years of alcoholism I did it cheap most of the time.

>card reader on keyboard
you're a cashier at some office and that isn't your money

Oh shit, good eye.

My budget is neat as it is, some NOK K's into the saving fund I never seem to use, pay the rent for this hovel and the rest is general payments per my discretion.

Then again if alcohol was cheaper I'd probably have drunk myself to death indirectly long ago.

$1k is pretty normal for rent in many parts of the US for a 1 bedroom or studio, hell my city has apartments for as low as $600/month and it is rated one of the top 10 cities to live in the US

Haha, that's actually a very good observation. I probably wouldn't be able to lay other peoples money out for a photo at a bank...

Long story, I was a software engineer working in defense. I worked between two different sites in SoCal, and I had to transport a few PCs in my car from one to the other to setup a simulation. Well in the middle of doing this I decided to leave the company. When I tried to give the workstation to the other site the security people wouldn't take it because they didn't have all the paperwork yet. So... I said fuck it and kept it. I can't plug in the workstation since its a governmet asset and has a 'lojack' on the chipset. But I still have the keyboard just because.

>as an american
stopped reading there, opinion discarded

I make maybe €1.8k per month for 3 days of work and get all sorts of government assistance for rent and health insurance.

>paying $500k to live in a fucking apartment
I dont think you should tell people that as it just sounds stupid

Cool beans. Guess which country my eCommerce business would never ship to? That's right. Your piece of ship garbage country has such a high fraud score our merchant processor (Kount) will automatically reject any order from you.

What it boils down to; people living in vietnam are so desperate and worthless that it's simply not worth attempting business with them. I bet that happens to you all the time, so now you know why.

But I though muh finland was the best? that is plenty of money to live in the US

I get 1200 Euro per month in NEETbux, works out just fine for me.
No complaints.

>imagine having all the money and the best stuff you do with your free time is bragging on Jow Forums

Dude at least go to leddit so you can earn gold for your troubles. It should give you some acomplishment feeling which money dont give you anymore.

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I am quite poor but I don't even know how to spend the little money I have. I just don't feel like buying anything.

Which city?

At least you have healthgare and gulage

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Nothing wrong with that, Boris. Just keep saving.

>lightly banter an american
>he writes an elaborate essay on why your country is shit
everytime

Amerimutts are pathetic race obsessed subhuman afterall so what do you expect?

T.VIETNAMESE WHORE

Uh uh sure thing
Yet the gook real estate market is on fire right now, lay off that larp you cuck

spic having an opinion about commerce lmao

For what? I want nothing of what you can buy.

A home? A car? Nothing?

It isnt as ranked recently I guess but just look at TIME 2015 best cities to live and it is top 10, apartments arent as cheap as I thought but $900 seems on the high end for the 1 br/studio type. It is a smallish city with only like 60k people but near a city with about 600k so it isnt that bad. I moved away for grad school though

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>Facts=opinions
belgian having an opinion about intelligence lmao

>A home?
In theory, I should want that, but in practice, renting doesn't look like a horrible thing to me.
>A car
I never had any passion for cars so I don't even have a drivers license.

get fucked brown goblin

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Our rent is ~1k and we live in Chicagoland, we could go even cheaper if willing to live in worse neighborhoods. I takes pretty fucked up Calicornia-tier city """"planning""""""" to not be able to find anything for 1k.

>can't come up with anything worth saying
>'look at the stupid americans and all their money'
>gets told why they will never be a country worth living in
>'why do americans respond to me, I just want write nonsense without anyone noticing'

Just name the town, man. We can't fucking dox you with that.

Looks like Omaha Nebraska to me.

That said only dumpster-fire Shitlifornia """cities""" don't have stuff available for 1k.

>IQ
Literally retarded belgium, I'm sorry for you.

literally all you just wrote is not worth reading. prove me wrong.

>burgerstani
>fulltime office job
>no health insurance
>no dental insurance
>no retirement account
>work as a permanent temp so it's all legal
>literally cannot get a better job because they are all like this as the boomers pull the ladder up after them
Well Jim, it feels pretty damned bad. You know what, say what you will about other countries, but their citizens don't have to go without medical services in 2018 because it's unaffordable. Now I understand why there are so many shootings here. Have some tooth pain for two weeks and suicide-by-cop starts to look appealing.

I flat out don't believe this graph. 59? You'd be an absolute drooling retard to have iq of 59. I can be racist as the next int poster but no nation ever has an IQ of 59, the test is broken or people were fucking around on the test and not taking it seriously

This. That's WAY into literal retard territory.

Really? There are probably plenty of places that will give you those benefits if you look.

Reactor operator. Sorry for late response I actually got called into work. Yeah it's stupidly expensive and I can't really justify it, buuuut I don't care. It's fun. Kindof...

Seething spic

>last job fired me after temp period to avoid bennies
>this job has kept me as temp as long as possible even when I hammered at them, and it was supposed to be a 2 week working interview and then a direct hire to begin with
Yes really you shitbag. I mean, I'm out of the country in 6 months so whatever. America is a shithole. When you factor in the high cost of living and having to live in an ugly blight of a country, the "high pay" isn't even worth it.

>Like I said before, I have a couple of businesses that bring in some cash. I take the cash buy money orders and pay my mortgage with it. I probably wouldn't advise buying a $4000 vehicle unless you're broke

well, in the most likely case its bullshit, which it more than likely is. Im offering real explanations of what the money is probably from.

as someone who worked in government thats probably a cac card reader, and you stole it. They dont have LoJack on them retard. and you can clearly see the wire running up to a computer instead of coiled up.. which it would be if it wasn't in use.. not to mention the thinner chord for the mouse going underneath it.

it was fun while it lasted user.

its plenty of money there too. hes terrible with money, like the worst you can be, or theres extenuating reasons that it isn't enough.

just asking a question no need to be angry user, just going off experience it sounds strange. I think you will be in for a rude awakening if you think the US has a high cost of living compared to its wages as well. Are you in the south or something?

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yeah, what said. nothing wrong with saving. you may need it in an emergency, or it will open a door in business for you later on. No one ever ended up on the streets with no options by saving too much.

im with you dude, same here. How about saving. traveling to see the world, and when youre good and done.. then you'll probably want those things cuz you'll be wanting to settle down.

Atleast thats where im at and im 27 and doing well for myself, contrary to the general Jow Forums opinion. all my successful IT friends with wives kids and 100k+ jobs.. all said if they didn't have a family they'd live exactly the way I do.

>Point out something
>belgian retard starts autistically screeching for no reason
>Point out something else
>no u mad huehuehue
Are you that faggot that got cucked by a spic and starts chimping out while using proxies whenever you see my flag?

that is probably what I will try to do when I graduate. I am only 21 now but if I dont get out of khhv mode soon then I will just give up and focus on my own shit and travel

I'm pretty angry man.
I live like a jew but my rent is 1500 (extremely typical) and I get paid 800 a week. I also have 600 a month in student loans.

OK, is it that hard to fathom someone could pull $5k-$8k / cash out of a small bar / restaurant? Back in the day people paid way more in cash, now these faggots want to buy a PBR on credit.

It's from 8 years ago, when all the defense contractors had to adopt the new government badges ('OneBadge' program).

The HP workstation had a 'lojack' feature built into the chipset, so it could be determined if someone plugged it into a network outside of SCIF. I wasn't doing IT/Security so I didn't feel like finding out, now did I ever need another workstation.

Well, I'm not saving now because I'm a neet.
> it will open a door in business
I don't feel like I'll ever go in business. It doesn't feel interesting.
>traveling to see the world
I'd like to, but I have no one to travel with.

>it's another episode of anons *screenshot* his balance to brag over Jow Forums
Do you have any troubles at right now user? The only thing I understand when people doing this kind of thing is seeking a validation or simply insecure.

SEETHING poornamese

Actually, you're sort of right. I hurt my back/shoulder last night. So I've been taking a break from working.

It is a little flattering knowing that most of you doubt someone could make money like that working from home. Kinda means you're doing something right in life.

>the highest his currency goes is 100
low test, just like your country

Nah, I understand how much money anyone could pull off even if they're not a typical white collar slaves, you know. Drop ship, teespring, seller online,... But then, every action of human have motiva at all. Did some of your white collar friend make fun of your job? Can't pull the tasteless show off wealth on twitter so sort to Jow Forums and it's anonymously?

>What's it like being poor?
Having less taxes.

Work in aerospace engineering. Really jealous of how much grads in aerospace make in the US, at least on job postings I see. Any engineer anons care to pipe up your salary?

I am not in a job (in grad school) but had an offer before graduate with my bachelors in electrical engineering and it was about $70k (not sure of after tax salary?) starting with some healthcare benefits and relocation bonus of $6k to help me move there and set up apartment. Also had some stock options and good 401k benefits. It was a normalish cost of living place so apartment for a year would be about $13k, food and restaurants maybe $4-8k. I had two internships and it was an offer from one of the companies I internshiped with. The lowest I heard from friends was a civil engineer got about $53k starting, but it was for the government which is known for typically lower salaries than companies but with really good benefits

Engineer student here. With the degree I'll get, people in the US make around quadruple of what it will get me here. Taxes are lower, items are cheaper and the salary is way higher over there. It's more competitive and the people I'd work with are probably brown-eyed, but I think it's easily worth it.

Cost of living is extremely low so it balances itself out

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idk what that is. but good on you bro.

business doesn't have to mean suit and tie. My brother has [assive income now by getting into bitcoin early because he had the money and took a risk. Earns 50k in interest a year now after he sold. I just mean it opens doors for you to do whatever you want.

>no on to travel with
I dont travel with anyone and I prefer not to. I do what I want, when I want, how I want, with who I want, for as long as I want. dont be afraid to get out of your comfort zone because you have no one to go with. I was the same way, then one day I got in a fist fight with my best friend 2 years ago, and almost got an assault charge for shattering his orbital and nose. Luckily I wasn't the aggressor, so nothing came of it cuz broken bone means felony.. when that happened I realized I almost wouldn't be able to really travel anywhere and get a visa.. so I bought a ticket to europe the next day, cheapest one I could find and went. Now I travel constantly by myself and only that way. You wont regret it. Heading to nz for a working holiday in a months time.

just go for it man.

yes because before I started contracting in Afghanistan, I worked in restaurants in the PNW. No one just takes out money like that for no reason for a, people who dont have money are the ones enamored by showing it off. I worked at nice restaurants cuz of my mannerisms and demeanor from the army. Your story just sounds less and less. But frankly I dont care enough to keep debating with you. if youre wealthy good for you dude. I just dont believe it.

girl I dated dads was an aerospace engineer for Boeing. Worked on rockets or something for them up in Seattle. He and I talked, he travels constantly, but earns 250k a year before any other perks.

Engineering, computer science, and I think science jobs definitely seem to better paying in the US than europe for whatever reason. My field puts a global salary report out every year which compares average annual salary across a lot of countries and the US or Switzerland is usually the top as seen in pic related (2018 data). I know switzerland taxes arent too bad actually, but I think the cost of living there is definitely higher because I studied there for my masters

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Sounds like a really comfy job. He must have a lot of experience because high end salaries get crazy especially when you just stay with a company or in general have a lot of experience. Pic related is Apple salaries for engineers, although probably high CoL areas

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>tfw when not enough napalm was used on u guys
:(

i used to live with 400€ a month in spain

yeah hes a real happy go lucky awesome dude. I want to say he has a senior position though. Like one of their lead rocket scientists or something. Dont quote, I dont know the specifics, just roughly what he earns before perks.

>tfw not enough ammo to fire at G.I under ambushed.
See user, you and me could have endless shitpost like this but then nothing would settle. Just waste amount of time so if you have any interest point else, just stop.