Does Africa have a future?

Does Africa have a future?

>As soon as an African gets successful enough, they buy a one way ticket to Europe, resulting in a brain drain. Only Europe benefits.
>The environment is so hostile that civilizations struggled to take hold.
>They've already been culturally exploited. When you have mixed colonial Identities, you end up like Latin America

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Africans have built civilizations but the thing is historically most of Africa was uninhabitabed.

To quote a scientist: "life always finds a way."

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The thing about Africa is they have so much resources and in Economics, as a general rule, rich countries with proper institutions get richer and better with resources whereas poor countries get poorer and more corrupt with resources.

Look at DRC for example, they have so many rare metals, diamonds, etc that in total are estimated to equal around 25 trillion USD. But at the end of the day, they get exploited by far bigger powers.

All African kingdoms are relatively recent and stem from the Old World civizations

>old world civilizations stem from the old world
gee i wonder why that is

yeah africa has a serious problem with the dutch disease and the fact that most of their resources are not oil, which is a commodity necessary for the global market and treated that way

Africa is the old world also no they aren't recent the oldest cultures in Africa date back to around 2000 bce with dhar tichitt 1000 bce with the nok 2000 bce with the kerma culture and 1000 with D'mt there's also pun etc

But user africa is the old world.

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>Sub Sahara
>Old World

Yeah pick one

Yes it's part of the old world people can cross the Sahara desert.

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Sahara didn't stop trade and technology transpher it just reduced and limited it greatly.

>Only Europe benefits
How exactly do we benefit from n*groids being in our country?

>you
>not a brainlet
pick one
africa has interacted with and traded with the rest of the old world for basically all of history you brainlet, axum (ethiopia) even used to rule part of arabia ffs

Africas most developed country, Nigeria, has outsourced a ton of land and resources to foreign companies. There is also 120 large tribes there competing for the government, not including the minor ones. The only country with a sustainable economy is Botswana and South Africa which can live of the tourism industry.

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Nigeria isn't the most devopled, countries like bostwana, and Ghana are more devopled Ghana is considered a middle income country.

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I meant they are one of the richest and has the most developed political system, it is based on the british one.

Nigeria is in no way the most developed country. On top of that, Tourism accounts for only ~16% of Botswana's GDP.

Botswana, Namibia and, to a certain extent, south africa all get their wealth from mining shit like diamonds and Uranium, in the case of Namibia. ~33% of Nigeria's populace lives under the poverty line compared to half of that in Botswana. Also, GDP/head, in terms of purchasing PP, of Nigeria is 1/3 of Botswana's.

Comparing Nigeria with Botswana, in terms of economy, is like comparing India and Sweden. Sure one has a much bigger GDP but that's only because it has a much bigger population.

Swaziland has a higher GDP per person than India.

DRC is bigger then continental west Europe. To administer all that with no money and lots of fighting is a gargantuan task. Imagine the romanticized shitty american frontier years but 10x worse.

But how does Wakanda compare in this regard?

Yeah thanks for explaining it in depth, I wasn't very aware of it. Also, that still kinda falls under the "improper instituitions"(or in that case the lack of them).

I don't know. I never watched black panther and I cringed when that guy said "Wakanda foreva" during that scene in Infinity war.

>which can live of the tourism industry.

SA and Botswana don't rely on Tourism

So do many other brit colonised ones.

Wakanda basically played it's cards right and had access to one of the best resources on Marvel Earth.

YES, WE ARE THE FUTURE, WW3 WILL MOST LIKELY HAPPEN OUT OF AFRICA

africas future is in europe, after they destroyed europe there future lies in asia.

>Only Europe benefits
Imma stop you right there son

>Does Africa have a future?
No. Why? Because Africa had a bright future under European colonial rule. Africans are far too primitive to run a successful nation. Look at what South Africa and Zimbabwe have turned into. Haiti is the first independent black run country on the planet - Look at it.

Watch the film, "Empire of Dust". That explains what I am talking about - from a Chinese perspective with none of that PC bullshit.

>Only Europe benefits.

Lazy, thieving and raping niggers. What a benefit!

>Ethiopia
>Muslim
Change this
Why do racebaiters have the same writing style from thread to thread?

> Haiti is the first independent black run country on the planet -
No it's not you fucking liar.
I bet you're the type of fucking subhuman thick skulled idiot to think Trinidad doesn't count either.

Why does your kind like to lie so much?

I really want Africa to prosper in the coming decades and that a lot of prosperous countries emerge there; it is the only way to stop mass immigration and demographic uncontrol. But seeing how the Negros behave, both here and there, I doubt that will happen in the next hundred years.

>Ethiopia
>Muslim
Islamic Emirate of al-Habash soon insha'Allah

Many of Africa's countries are rising in GDP and HDI. Your concerns are false, you are not sincere in your statements.

We wish Africans well as long as they’re not here, like every race that’s not European. Long term change for the betterment of all Africans starts in Africa through their own labor, not from aid that helps prop up dictatorships. The rest of the world should take an isolationist approach

>Africa had a bright future under European colonial rule
Yeah sure. Don't make me laugh, retard.

All european colonization completely ruined many nations setting them back by decades. Colonizers almost always only built railways for the transportation of raw materials that were mined by the natives.

Britain ruined countries with already existing authorities/governments like Egypt and India on top of that. They ruined the former and completely destroyed Alexandria. On top of that, the railway systems that they had built in Upper Egypt and Sudan was so bad, the crown prince at the time died there during an accident.

India's economy went from 20% of the world's at the end of the Mughal Empire(predecessor to British Raj) to only 5% of the world's.

>India is in Africa

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When did I ever mention that India is in Africa? Do you have brain damage or can you not read, subhuman?

I was stating that in general, european colonization ruined more than it built, regardless of where it was.

We’re talking about Africa ITT. It’s an undeniable fact that Africans and Indians are different. Egypt is not culturally African either so we can leave them out.
Now try again using AFRICAN societies, I would love to know which ones were disimproved, barring the Belgian settlements. Black Panther was just a movie brainlet

>Uses Alexandria as an example of the bad things Euros did
>Alexandria was built by a Greek

North Africa is condemned by this destructive sect called islam that prevents economically prosper any country that has no oil and socially to any country.

Sub-Saharan Africa is full of Negros, and that, at least for the time being, has proven to be synonymous with underdevelopment in any country.

>Black Panther was just a movie brainlet
The fuck does Black Panther has to do with what I am saying lmao.

All I am saying is, a lot of the european colonization in Africa was shit, with the exception of probably south africa because a significant amount of dutch people actually went there, because euros only cared about building railways for transportation of natural resources and raw minerals.

So fucking what? Greek settlers created cities across all the Med sea. Also, Alexander was a Macedonian. Not only that, but the city remained Hellenic for about 900 years but was part of muslim egypt for about 1400 years.

Isolationism leads to decay and stagnation.

>resulting in a brain drain. Only Europe benefits.

Bad meme, emigrants send shitloads of money back home so that their families lives are better than if they didn't seek jobs in other countries. Africa is rapidly industrializing and becoming much more stable, the difference between Africa now and Africa in the 80s is like night and day. I'm not saying they'll have Western standards of life anytime soon, but don't believe Jow Forums memes.

Those guys you are replying to are just shitposting. Best to ignore them. Like that Irish guy for example completely ignored the content of your post by focusing on India then spun it off into a some bullshit about "Muh differences".

>Only Europe benefits
>benefits

are you a retard?
they're illiterate mongrels who want free money from the government

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>Many of Africa's countries are rising in GDP and HDI.
You are just parroting what you heard other people say because evidently, you are just barely above some average intelligence.

They will be richer than now in the future.

Yes, colonization was shit, but it was shit that was better than the nothingness that came before it. I sometimes wonder what Africa would be like if left completely untouched. How do you imagine it to be right now, if it were?

“Muh differences” being the IQ differences between poos and Africans, and the fact that he didn’t choose an African society instead of India, because there was no comparable society to choose. He’s working under the assumption that if left to their own devices Africans are actually able to build a society

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>The environment is so hostile that civilizations struggled to take hold.
Wut, Africa is easy mode. At least before climate change. Only the Sahara is the shitty uninhabitable part of it. The rest of the continent is rich with resources (which is why Europeans invaded it)

>I sometimes wonder what Africa would be like if left completely untouched
For starters, this is almost impossible. However, almost EVERY culture/civilization that doesn't experience any contact from other civilizations will never grow.

This is why the southern cone of Africa remained as city states for so long, whereas west and east africa, even though they were in much more hostile environments, grew bigger and more "civilized". East Africa received influence from the middle east, egypt, and indirectly through the romans. Whereas west africa and the sahel were influenced by the romans and north africans.

Fucking up people and working them as slaves isn't the same as introducing them to the modern world. However, the helping party doesn't benefit in any way whatsoever if it takes the latter decision. The only reasons for the scramble for africa were financial and fighting over who gets the biggest share of the world's land area mostly. Altruistic actions towards black people back then were a huge NO so I honestly believe colonization was a necessary evil.

Also, forgot to add why does it even matter to you lol. I am kinda done with this thread since it's so boring and I am not getting anything out of it.

>Imagine the romanticized shitty american frontier years but 10x worse.
so you're saying I can take a vacation trip to Westworld, but right now, without androids? Count me in (please no malaria, I've already played enough Far Cry 2)

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Charles Manson should have been born in your country, not ours

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>Altruistic actions towards black people back then were a huge NO so I honestly believe colonization was a necessary evil.

You know they could've gotten that shit through trade and exposure just like every other instance in history. Like transfer of knowledge, tech and other shit was a organic process in human history that happens naturally so forcing it wasn't really necessary since many empires and powers on the continent were receptive.

>Like transfer of knowledge, tech and other shit was a organic process in human history
East-west trade is always better than north-south trade due to biomes, especially when we're considering crops and farm animals. The lack of farm animals really screwed Africa, Australia, and South America (well... they have an alpaca, I guess).

The Middle East and Europe were always destined to dominate those surrounding them, simply due to trade between themselves. And, well, tactical pillaging like what the Arab Conquest did to Byzantium and Spain, and what the Crusaders did to the Levant. God only fucking knows what a shithole Europe would be today if the Greek classics weren't re-obtained in Arabic language via the Crusades

Doesn't Equatorial Guinea have a high GDP per capita?

Is not Cameroon doing quite well?
Though it is a small country so there's that as well.

Jared Diamond pls

>niggers have future?
its self explainatory, dumb ass jewpanese

Yes, the government greatly benefits from immigrants since they're the ones who do all the labour. It doesn't matter if your 15 year old ass doesn't like to see brown people, it's the truth. Do you think that europe is inviting refugees from some act of kindness sponsored by le joos?

But he's right, African immigration is literally only negative for Europe. We don't even get cheap toiletcleaners because of labour laws.

>all
Morocco exists since 750 AC

Hey don't be so self-loathing.

I'm afraid east asian (((goverments))) minus Japan's aren't as cuckish as yours Hans

The number of refugees in Europe are absolutely minimal compared to anywhere else though and a lot if people are being deported.

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By white

Be triggerd by slaves gaining their freedom

Fuck them over.

That explains what I am talking about - from a Chinese perspective with none of that PC bullshit

>Some Chinese retard hires a bunch of inexperienced workers

Even nips don't allow too much black immigration.

You africans mined and traded goal for thousands of years right?

Ah yes dense jungle and scorching desert that don't matter because some parts have oil a resource that wasn't useful until the 20th century.

I wonder why some Americans are so quick to jump to Africa's defence. Do you people really believe most of Africa's problems today aren't of their own making?

East Africa trade was easier because of the nile in west Africa you had to cross the Sahara region region which is a 14moth trip

Can you stop being so sychophantic?

Empire of dust is one of the shittiest divs I have ever seen.

Don't you pajeets litteraly blame the British for your problems

Also to be honest the western world has always been fucking with africans

Shit like colonial debit and the fact that European Really didn't build infrastructure in Africa they built a bunch of resource extraction operations set up so only a small minority could profit Google the cold war in Africa.

Stop infantilizing them by putting all the blame on "muh evil foreigners". Yes Europeans played a part but being hung up on it isn't helping them.

>Don't you pajeets litteraly blame the British for your problems

Anytime you see an Indian complain about the Brits(justified) you will see another dozen saying that there's no point in doing that and it's been 71 years since we gained Independence. We've had plenty of opportunities to change our trajectory and it's our fault that we didn't.

East Asia particularly Taiwan, China and Korea are reminders that we could've been better economically at least.