>As soon as an African gets successful enough, they buy a one way ticket to Europe, resulting in a brain drain. Only Europe benefits. >The environment is so hostile that civilizations struggled to take hold. >They've already been culturally exploited. When you have mixed colonial Identities, you end up like Latin America
The thing about Africa is they have so much resources and in Economics, as a general rule, rich countries with proper institutions get richer and better with resources whereas poor countries get poorer and more corrupt with resources.
Look at DRC for example, they have so many rare metals, diamonds, etc that in total are estimated to equal around 25 trillion USD. But at the end of the day, they get exploited by far bigger powers.
Alexander Myers
All African kingdoms are relatively recent and stem from the Old World civizations
Adrian Sullivan
>old world civilizations stem from the old world gee i wonder why that is
yeah africa has a serious problem with the dutch disease and the fact that most of their resources are not oil, which is a commodity necessary for the global market and treated that way
Alexander Kelly
Africa is the old world also no they aren't recent the oldest cultures in Africa date back to around 2000 bce with dhar tichitt 1000 bce with the nok 2000 bce with the kerma culture and 1000 with D'mt there's also pun etc
Sahara didn't stop trade and technology transpher it just reduced and limited it greatly.
Jose Young
>Only Europe benefits How exactly do we benefit from n*groids being in our country?
Christian Rivera
>you >not a brainlet pick one africa has interacted with and traded with the rest of the old world for basically all of history you brainlet, axum (ethiopia) even used to rule part of arabia ffs
Bentley Cox
Africas most developed country, Nigeria, has outsourced a ton of land and resources to foreign companies. There is also 120 large tribes there competing for the government, not including the minor ones. The only country with a sustainable economy is Botswana and South Africa which can live of the tourism industry.
Leo James
>.m.
Brody Russell
Nigeria isn't the most devopled, countries like bostwana, and Ghana are more devopled Ghana is considered a middle income country.
Carter Scott
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Adam Walker
I meant they are one of the richest and has the most developed political system, it is based on the british one.
Jace Peterson
Nigeria is in no way the most developed country. On top of that, Tourism accounts for only ~16% of Botswana's GDP.
Botswana, Namibia and, to a certain extent, south africa all get their wealth from mining shit like diamonds and Uranium, in the case of Namibia. ~33% of Nigeria's populace lives under the poverty line compared to half of that in Botswana. Also, GDP/head, in terms of purchasing PP, of Nigeria is 1/3 of Botswana's.
Comparing Nigeria with Botswana, in terms of economy, is like comparing India and Sweden. Sure one has a much bigger GDP but that's only because it has a much bigger population.
Mason Myers
Swaziland has a higher GDP per person than India.
Xavier Ortiz
DRC is bigger then continental west Europe. To administer all that with no money and lots of fighting is a gargantuan task. Imagine the romanticized shitty american frontier years but 10x worse.
Chase Morgan
But how does Wakanda compare in this regard?
Lucas Martin
Yeah thanks for explaining it in depth, I wasn't very aware of it. Also, that still kinda falls under the "improper instituitions"(or in that case the lack of them).
I don't know. I never watched black panther and I cringed when that guy said "Wakanda foreva" during that scene in Infinity war.
Jayden Powell
>which can live of the tourism industry.
SA and Botswana don't rely on Tourism
So do many other brit colonised ones.
Wakanda basically played it's cards right and had access to one of the best resources on Marvel Earth.
Alexander Cruz
YES, WE ARE THE FUTURE, WW3 WILL MOST LIKELY HAPPEN OUT OF AFRICA
Leo Bennett
africas future is in europe, after they destroyed europe there future lies in asia.
Luke Wright
>Only Europe benefits Imma stop you right there son
Jeremiah Morris
>Does Africa have a future? No. Why? Because Africa had a bright future under European colonial rule. Africans are far too primitive to run a successful nation. Look at what South Africa and Zimbabwe have turned into. Haiti is the first independent black run country on the planet - Look at it.
Watch the film, "Empire of Dust". That explains what I am talking about - from a Chinese perspective with none of that PC bullshit.
Levi Gray
>Only Europe benefits.
Lazy, thieving and raping niggers. What a benefit!
Julian Cruz
>Ethiopia >Muslim Change this Why do racebaiters have the same writing style from thread to thread?
Jacob Morris
> Haiti is the first independent black run country on the planet - No it's not you fucking liar. I bet you're the type of fucking subhuman thick skulled idiot to think Trinidad doesn't count either.
Why does your kind like to lie so much?
James Nguyen
I really want Africa to prosper in the coming decades and that a lot of prosperous countries emerge there; it is the only way to stop mass immigration and demographic uncontrol. But seeing how the Negros behave, both here and there, I doubt that will happen in the next hundred years.
Asher James
>Ethiopia >Muslim Islamic Emirate of al-Habash soon insha'Allah
John Cooper
Many of Africa's countries are rising in GDP and HDI. Your concerns are false, you are not sincere in your statements.
Owen Turner
We wish Africans well as long as they’re not here, like every race that’s not European. Long term change for the betterment of all Africans starts in Africa through their own labor, not from aid that helps prop up dictatorships. The rest of the world should take an isolationist approach
Luke Hill
>Africa had a bright future under European colonial rule Yeah sure. Don't make me laugh, retard.
All european colonization completely ruined many nations setting them back by decades. Colonizers almost always only built railways for the transportation of raw materials that were mined by the natives.
Britain ruined countries with already existing authorities/governments like Egypt and India on top of that. They ruined the former and completely destroyed Alexandria. On top of that, the railway systems that they had built in Upper Egypt and Sudan was so bad, the crown prince at the time died there during an accident.
India's economy went from 20% of the world's at the end of the Mughal Empire(predecessor to British Raj) to only 5% of the world's.
When did I ever mention that India is in Africa? Do you have brain damage or can you not read, subhuman?
I was stating that in general, european colonization ruined more than it built, regardless of where it was.
Ian Anderson
We’re talking about Africa ITT. It’s an undeniable fact that Africans and Indians are different. Egypt is not culturally African either so we can leave them out. Now try again using AFRICAN societies, I would love to know which ones were disimproved, barring the Belgian settlements. Black Panther was just a movie brainlet
Jordan Thompson
>Uses Alexandria as an example of the bad things Euros did >Alexandria was built by a Greek
Gabriel Ward
North Africa is condemned by this destructive sect called islam that prevents economically prosper any country that has no oil and socially to any country.
Sub-Saharan Africa is full of Negros, and that, at least for the time being, has proven to be synonymous with underdevelopment in any country.
David Sanchez
>Black Panther was just a movie brainlet The fuck does Black Panther has to do with what I am saying lmao.
All I am saying is, a lot of the european colonization in Africa was shit, with the exception of probably south africa because a significant amount of dutch people actually went there, because euros only cared about building railways for transportation of natural resources and raw minerals.
So fucking what? Greek settlers created cities across all the Med sea. Also, Alexander was a Macedonian. Not only that, but the city remained Hellenic for about 900 years but was part of muslim egypt for about 1400 years.
Nathaniel Roberts
Isolationism leads to decay and stagnation.
Benjamin Barnes
>resulting in a brain drain. Only Europe benefits.
Bad meme, emigrants send shitloads of money back home so that their families lives are better than if they didn't seek jobs in other countries. Africa is rapidly industrializing and becoming much more stable, the difference between Africa now and Africa in the 80s is like night and day. I'm not saying they'll have Western standards of life anytime soon, but don't believe Jow Forums memes.
Joshua Richardson
Those guys you are replying to are just shitposting. Best to ignore them. Like that Irish guy for example completely ignored the content of your post by focusing on India then spun it off into a some bullshit about "Muh differences".
Oliver Allen
>Only Europe benefits >benefits
are you a retard? they're illiterate mongrels who want free money from the government
Again >Many of Africa's countries are rising in GDP and HDI. You are just parroting what you heard other people say because evidently, you are just barely above some average intelligence.
Brayden Torres
They will be richer than now in the future.
Aiden Peterson
Yes, colonization was shit, but it was shit that was better than the nothingness that came before it. I sometimes wonder what Africa would be like if left completely untouched. How do you imagine it to be right now, if it were?
“Muh differences” being the IQ differences between poos and Africans, and the fact that he didn’t choose an African society instead of India, because there was no comparable society to choose. He’s working under the assumption that if left to their own devices Africans are actually able to build a society
Ian Reyes
meme country
Christopher Torres
>The environment is so hostile that civilizations struggled to take hold. Wut, Africa is easy mode. At least before climate change. Only the Sahara is the shitty uninhabitable part of it. The rest of the continent is rich with resources (which is why Europeans invaded it)
Jackson Diaz
>I sometimes wonder what Africa would be like if left completely untouched For starters, this is almost impossible. However, almost EVERY culture/civilization that doesn't experience any contact from other civilizations will never grow.
This is why the southern cone of Africa remained as city states for so long, whereas west and east africa, even though they were in much more hostile environments, grew bigger and more "civilized". East Africa received influence from the middle east, egypt, and indirectly through the romans. Whereas west africa and the sahel were influenced by the romans and north africans.
Fucking up people and working them as slaves isn't the same as introducing them to the modern world. However, the helping party doesn't benefit in any way whatsoever if it takes the latter decision. The only reasons for the scramble for africa were financial and fighting over who gets the biggest share of the world's land area mostly. Altruistic actions towards black people back then were a huge NO so I honestly believe colonization was a necessary evil.
Jeremiah Torres
Also, forgot to add why does it even matter to you lol. I am kinda done with this thread since it's so boring and I am not getting anything out of it.
Sebastian Reyes
>Imagine the romanticized shitty american frontier years but 10x worse. so you're saying I can take a vacation trip to Westworld, but right now, without androids? Count me in (please no malaria, I've already played enough Far Cry 2)
>Altruistic actions towards black people back then were a huge NO so I honestly believe colonization was a necessary evil.
You know they could've gotten that shit through trade and exposure just like every other instance in history. Like transfer of knowledge, tech and other shit was a organic process in human history that happens naturally so forcing it wasn't really necessary since many empires and powers on the continent were receptive.
Tyler Johnson
>Like transfer of knowledge, tech and other shit was a organic process in human history East-west trade is always better than north-south trade due to biomes, especially when we're considering crops and farm animals. The lack of farm animals really screwed Africa, Australia, and South America (well... they have an alpaca, I guess).
The Middle East and Europe were always destined to dominate those surrounding them, simply due to trade between themselves. And, well, tactical pillaging like what the Arab Conquest did to Byzantium and Spain, and what the Crusaders did to the Levant. God only fucking knows what a shithole Europe would be today if the Greek classics weren't re-obtained in Arabic language via the Crusades
Lucas Rodriguez
Doesn't Equatorial Guinea have a high GDP per capita?
Landon Carter
Is not Cameroon doing quite well? Though it is a small country so there's that as well.
Charles Scott
Jared Diamond pls
Andrew Morales
>niggers have future? its self explainatory, dumb ass jewpanese
Jayden Adams
Yes, the government greatly benefits from immigrants since they're the ones who do all the labour. It doesn't matter if your 15 year old ass doesn't like to see brown people, it's the truth. Do you think that europe is inviting refugees from some act of kindness sponsored by le joos?
Liam Lewis
But he's right, African immigration is literally only negative for Europe. We don't even get cheap toiletcleaners because of labour laws.
Levi Perry
>all Morocco exists since 750 AC
Justin Flores
Hey don't be so self-loathing.
Matthew Brown
I'm afraid east asian (((goverments))) minus Japan's aren't as cuckish as yours Hans
Bentley Walker
The number of refugees in Europe are absolutely minimal compared to anywhere else though and a lot if people are being deported.
That explains what I am talking about - from a Chinese perspective with none of that PC bullshit
>Some Chinese retard hires a bunch of inexperienced workers
Kayden Perry
Even nips don't allow too much black immigration.
Kevin Perry
You africans mined and traded goal for thousands of years right?
Levi Johnson
Ah yes dense jungle and scorching desert that don't matter because some parts have oil a resource that wasn't useful until the 20th century.
Jose Cooper
I wonder why some Americans are so quick to jump to Africa's defence. Do you people really believe most of Africa's problems today aren't of their own making?
Logan Richardson
East Africa trade was easier because of the nile in west Africa you had to cross the Sahara region region which is a 14moth trip
Asher James
Can you stop being so sychophantic?
James Price
Empire of dust is one of the shittiest divs I have ever seen.
Jaxon Sullivan
Don't you pajeets litteraly blame the British for your problems
Also to be honest the western world has always been fucking with africans
Shit like colonial debit and the fact that European Really didn't build infrastructure in Africa they built a bunch of resource extraction operations set up so only a small minority could profit Google the cold war in Africa.
Zachary Gomez
Stop infantilizing them by putting all the blame on "muh evil foreigners". Yes Europeans played a part but being hung up on it isn't helping them.
Jason Cruz
>Don't you pajeets litteraly blame the British for your problems
Anytime you see an Indian complain about the Brits(justified) you will see another dozen saying that there's no point in doing that and it's been 71 years since we gained Independence. We've had plenty of opportunities to change our trajectory and it's our fault that we didn't.
East Asia particularly Taiwan, China and Korea are reminders that we could've been better economically at least.