If you support special programs for immigration concerning white south africans but complained about economic migrants...

Its already established.

Most Canadians and Australians give 0 fuckers about boer cunts. The last decent people (british southafricans) left long ago.

Let the ones who can benefit the country in, rest can fuck off we don't need them cunts forming an angry dispossessed underclass.

Except they have the right because they are white european descendants

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White South Africans will almost certainly become productive citizens of whatever nation takes them in. Brown and black economic migrants and refugees will be a net drain on their host nation. I'm not surprised this is lost on a fucking leaf.

By that logic we have more of an obligation to take in the rich from China, India, etc than poor white South African petty farmers.

Why would white south african women want to leave Africa and go home to disgusting wh*Te "men". They'd much rather stay in heaven.

I did answer the question. Anti-immigrant groups in both America and Europe specifically stated race was not the reason immigrants should be stopped from coming in. White South Africans fall under the category of undeserving immigrants by their own established mainstream standards.
So are mixed race latinos. I doubt you would extend the same courtesy to them.

Cringe

Based

we take in lots of people from china and india, but the mega-wealthy don't immigrate as much as they expand their territories

It sure makes sense

Why the fuck would we let in every single person especially when a bulk of them look like this?

Canada and Australia aren't charities, these boer fuckers meanwhile shunned english for their outdated language and definitely don't speak french.

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So you genuinely believe it is all migrants or none? You are delusional. Favouring immigrants that are like you and share your values should obviously be prioritized if possible. White christians from the commonwealth that speak your language are worth MORE than a MENA who speaks no english and has 5 kids.

>White christians from the commonwealth that speak your language are worth MORE than a MENA who speaks no english and has 5 kids.

You're embarrassing yourself, cuck

Your fantasy dreams about allowing immigration only for white peoples will never happen. Immigration will always be a human right that’s available for everybody, the best thing to do is to find a way to regulate it properly to weed out the undesirables from the useful migrants that just want to work and need a place to live. Immigration policies should be changed, but immigration will never be only for white people, so forget about that retarded idea

>So are mixed race latinos
No because they are mixed,and i hope you realize they are allowed spanish citizenship by just staying in Spain for 2 years so fuck off and do some research before talking shit

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White people are worth more than brown people

See

Not that guy but I don't fucking see the logic here. Why would a rich cunt be useful for our country over say, a middle class doctor or a nurse?

70% of our immigration is controlled by the provinces and there's a reason why middle-canada prairie provinces took in only 2,000 boers ever while taking in 10k filipino nurses and service workers who are glad to live in the middle of nowhere farming towns.

>No because they are mixed
What's your reasoning
>they are allowed spanish citizenship by just staying in Spain for 2 years
So then why disagree?

>Boers
>of European descent, can speak English, likely able to integrate well, likely to have a skill set and a strong work ethic

>niggers and araps
>have none of those things, also associated with criminals and terrorists

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWW SUCH HYPOCRISY

>right
You don't want to go down that rabbithole. The only rights that exist are ones that have some guns enforcing them. Rights are just protocols for conflict resolution.

Again not that guy. But a fucking guatemelan or whatever you are decides to lecture our country on having an immigration policy every european country and americans always cite as a success?

we barely even let refugees in after 2000ish. we cherry-picked the fuck out of the syrian refugees lmao, literally depriving them of their doctors and educated folks while letting the rest stay in europe.

>the best thing to do is to find a way to regulate it properly to weed out the undesirables
niggers and brown people, then.

*snap*

don't you have a mafia hit to be working on Mario? what do you know about work ethic?

DON'T ARGUE ABOUT RIGHTS YOU MORON

The Jew will crush you because unlike you, he realizes that rights are literally just something you draw from arbitrary axioms and will never be able to back up in a debate without tripping over yourself repeatedly. Stop thinking in terms of rights and start thinking in terms of making good policy decisions to reach some goal (low crime rates, economic prosperity, etc)

>10k filipino nurses
A relative of mine is one of those nurses, she likes it up in Canada. Thanks for taking her in.

not the same thing. the problem people have is mostly due to huge cultural, religious and ethnic differences between african or middle eastern refugees and white south africans. not to mention the level of education. of course there are going to be tensions. people arent the same.

>hurr because some guy thinks a group has X trait, therefore we let them in en masse

it don't work like that cunt. we're not going to let in people based on vague characterizations and definitely dp not need to worry about some saffer cunt who won't be useful here and may make the country worse by dragging in american-style racebaiting politics.

Even when we argue from your rule set what you say doesn't make much sense

I'm sure you know about stealing people's money, Shlomo

No you are right every immigrant is identical and carries no cultural baggage

Sorry my bad

most of them arent poor though unless they have already been disowned. anyway they are a hard working people skilled at dealing with savages. a skill more and more in demand here.

No. Just people who aren’t prepared to learn the language of the host country they’re in and prepared to work. Not all black people and brown people are like that. Anecdotal experience I know, but I know a Ghanaian who went to study and live in Netherlands and he learnt the language in a few years and adapted to their customs. What’s wrong with having immigrants that look different to you so long as they fit in and are a net benefit for your country? Stop being racist

Thanks for admitting you're wrong Paco. I hate self-loathing brown people who defend wh*Tes

I'd rather have white south africans than churkas. Simple as

don't know why you are thanking me, thank the province since they decide most of the immigrants anyways.

you cunts are easily content and would be happy living in a box in the middle of the ocean and we are forcing your people to live in literally the middle of nowhere arctic areas.

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>What's your reasoning
Theyre brown not white

>So then why disagree?
Because i dont want them since they bring more problems than benefits

why don't westerners just have more kids?

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I do not even understand you man...I have to support lax immigration policy because I am brown?

They have the right because every race and culture deserves an ethnostate (white people:Europe),isnt this the same reasoning behind Israel?

So you are arguing from a point of silly sentimentalism and then attacking people for having compassion for refugees? It's not even a cultural argument either, it's based solely on skin tone.

You make implications about my ruleset that I never stated and are trying to leverage some exceptions that aren't even relevant to the discussion.

I do not support mass immigration from Africa because they're low IQ niggers. I have no problem with immigration of boers because they are not low IQ niggers. My opposition to low IQ niggers is grounded in the obvious and well documented connection between low IQ niggers and things I don't want like increased crime rates. This is my position and you are welcome to assail it.

skin tone=culture,what world do you even live in?Also why would i have compassion for someone whos not compassionate with us,the people who give them asylum

they are europeans?

Reasoning about rights like this is blowing smoke in the eyes of dumb plebs and not actual logical discourse. Israel appealing to rights is a rhetorial device, the reason it exists has fuck all to do with that. Israel exists because Jewish people who wanted their own nation had enough political influence in the British empire to secure it.

>low crime rates
>economic prosperity
Let in high value immigrants instead of basing it off skin colour then.

white european cunts are mostly still racist, which is why their immigrants hate them. they mostly just expect certain groups to be uneducated, angry darker folks.

its not rare here to see nerdy unassertive black africans passionately talk about obscure database programming langauges, but here i am sitting across from them while having breakfast in my office.

They prefer calling themselves South African and that’s what they identify with

Oh I get it now. You are brown and have a chip on your shoulder

Notice how the Canadian Jew has latched on to you. You believe things you do out of gut feeling and use the quickest vaguely logical sounding justification. As a result he can freely and easily pick your position apart. Arguing like this is recruiting anybody with an IQ above room temperature to the liberals' side.

>skin tone=culture
Really? The very concept of hispanidad rebukes that. Are you even a spainiard?

What you stil think immigration is purely an economic issue? Stop being so naive.

Still I don't mind people of European origin coming here if they want to. Would gladly exchange all the non-Europeans we have here for a single south african.

I'm not. Why are you so obsessed with race?
I'm French cartholic.

why do you think we should go back in 1950s style race-based immigration when the fucking world economy is based entirely around skills and the skill-gap between educated and uneducated folks is big as fuck these days?

if we invite every fucking russian here to compete with jobs with everyone else it will cause massive problems. i'd rather my country just provide comfy living conditions for our working and middle-class and find people to do things that don't compete with canadians for jobs.

brexit was literally fuelled by brits thinking its a good idea to get a big pool of wage labourers from eastern europe competing with working class brits and immigrants. none of that shit will happen here.

They don’t speak Spanish either, they would have to do the exact same effort as non-white immigrants in order to integrate.

The hispanidad has different cultures retard,thats like saying british people and americans are exactly the same

But you just argued skin tone = culture.

>let in high value immigrants
Yes. Hence why I have no problem with boers
>basing off skin color
And this is the bit where you blatantly lie and present a strawman. I never even mentioned skin color. I explicitely mentioned the low IQ bit. Race a term for an arbitrary population with shared ancestry. Skin color is only one of the many phenotypical traits that can be associated with one. Reasons for not wanting influx from a certain genepool are not necessarily limited to individual gene expression in the first generation immigrants, either, but population genetics is a big topic and I think it's a waste of time getting into it here. It isn't necessarily about mixing, either, because oftentimes immigrant populations that do not integrate or intermarry can be an endless source of trouble in their own right - a poignant case being your own tribe.

so what? Spaniards are white and latin americans are mestizos.Skin tone a lot of times have to do with culture,you wont see a white german practicing indian culture

consider this.

i meet on a near-daily basis hard-working and docile africans who are smarter than 99% of white people i have met.

why would my company choose to hire him over some random white guy without a degree?

But you just argued race = skin color

why do you think this magical race of boers are completely useful and educated? you fuckers swamping UK is why they pulled the plug on the EU with none of that racial solidarity nonsense.

>consider my anecdote
No thanks. Are we at this stage of the debate already? You were beating the dumb pancho so readily, I assumed you were above petty tricks like this. Though I suppose conflating race with skin color should've alerted me.

The difference being in 100 years the country would look the same taking south africans but it would look like brazil taking non-Europeans because European genes are recessive and I like a diverse world and not a brown melting pot where everyone is a mutt.

woah you knew one guy. that makes it a good idea to take in millions who have proven themselves to be the opposite. i suppose since 70% of somalians in norway are on welfare we should keep the experience going so we can "stop being racist" for that one ghanian guy.

I've been arguing the opposite.
There are hindu temples in berlin with white practicioners. Your point of view becomes more non sensical if you argue that latinos don't practice elements of spanish culture more than let us say a white russian or even a dutch Protestant.

On average, boers are better than niggers at everything. They are less genetically distant from us and therefore have an easier time integrating. Their polygenic phenotype expression is more compatible with ours for the same reason so no outbreeding depression is likely. Letting in white christian dutchmen with the condition that they integrate does not set a dangerous precedent for opening the flood gates to nigger immigration. If the only parameter we are given is that one immigrant is a boer and one is a nigger, I will take the boer any day of the week.

Like I said, change immigration policy and control it better. Immigration based on race will never be a thing, you can forget about it. The second best thing to do is to make it based on class, level of education and other factors. Sorry dude, but your Jow Forums fever dream about only allowing immigration for white people will never happen. Argue about something realistic please

That's another Canadian. I'm not using anecdotes at all.

>I've been arguing the opposite.
No you haven't. You keep twisting people's words to imply they said meant "skin color" - a phenotypic trait - when they said and meant "race" - a particular ancestral population and a set of alleles associated with its genepool.

there's like 3 canadians here.

canadians are actually fairly conservative people, even the liberal-voting people here are just centrists. we exaggerated the fuck out of our great humanitarian work letting in refugees back in 2015 while literally screening them all for 1-2 years and subjecting them to IQ tests and refusing people. we do the same thing with saudis, we talk a big game with human rights n sheeit but we have no problem being their 2nd biggest source of weapons to bomb yemeni schoolbuses with and spy on their citizens with since it provides canadians with jobs.

Fuck off jew you know how rare those cases are and you know culture is associated with race your point is nonsensical retard and you know it,also latinos practice spanish culture such as what? Were is all your evidence?

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>Sorry dude, but your Jow Forums fever dream about only allowing immigration for white people will never happen.
I agree that this will most likely not happen in reality in most of Europe, but that does not mean it is impossible or hasn't happened before. The US had a racial quota-based immigration system before 1965. Some cunts like Hungary are all but doing it already as far as I can tell.

I'm pointing out the absurdity of their arguments. These people keep jumping from one spot to another. The spainiard here even made the argument that skin colour was a cultural feature.

>There are hindu temples in berlin with white practicioners.
yet if they went to India nobody would take them as indians

They don’t want to be a single parent with aids

The drawbacks to individual testing are that many phenotypic traits are polygenic and therefore subject to regression to the mean. The first generation needs to be selected extremely rigorously for the selection to have any noticeable effect a generation or two down the line.

>The second best thing to do is to make it based on class, level of education and other factors.
which basically will weed out all niggers and brown people. whether it says "no niggers" in on a piece of paper or not improving the immigration system in europe will inevtiably mean "no niggers please". so whatever, no need to split hairs.

Are you arguing for culture or nationality now?

See this is why we don't give random poltards the position of hiring manager here in Canada.

I have no idea how genetic distance and phenotype (assuming you fucking understand this because you don't since I studied this in uni half a decade back) is remotely useful for say, the IT department at my firm or for our government to milk tax dollars from for healthcare.

Yes, the spaniard is an idiot who cannot defend his position for shit despite me explicitely telling him what not to do, repeatedly. But that doesn't mean he is wrong. At the end of the day, the average person (like the spaniard) is not capable of even semi-rigorous logic so all that matters is that they reach the right conclusion, which is not letting in a bunch of niggers.

>at least I was not a hypocrite

Stay in bed Trudeau.

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You are thinking about individuals, anecdotes and the short term. I am thinking about population wide trends and about the effects on future generations. It's not the single cases that count, it's the aggregate effect of factors that influence each individual case slightly, applied to many cases and decisions, that matters.

>which basically will weed out all niggers and brown people
Lol no we would be flooded by indians, chinks and others. The best is to have no immigration policy and only allow people who look similarly in in extreme cases like colonists fleeing africa. Having immigration only lowers wages and makes working conditions worst in exchange for "competitiveness" (aka making the richer richer and the poorer poorer).

Absurd arguments can lead to the correct conclusion. In fact, P & ~P implies anything, including all correct conclusions, like not letting subhuman nigger monkeys into your country and subsequently giving de facto animals citizenship and voting rights.

>comparing white people to some niggers
yeah no

>oh boy a latvian retard lecturing me on what i fucking studied ages ago and stopped giving a shit about

regression to the mean -> sampling data. me drinking all the scotch whiskey and vodka in my liquor cabinet today and finding i only have vodka and gin ;eft means i won't regress to drinking ballantines tomorrow until i fall asleep.

I'm not the other man you were arguing with, we're talking about immigration. Immigration is about nationality because with our shitty laws all immigrants will eventually get nationality. You can assimilate to any culture but nationality will always have a racial part and national assimilation for a non-European would take generations of mixing that in the current numbers would only alter the national gene-pool. On the other hand south africans are already european so they only need to assimilate culturally.