I was discussing rights with my family today and they got really mad when i said i adore America for its 2nd amendment...

I wish i was 16 again.I don't want you to have a gun, you sound kinda messed up. Did you know you can have a gun in most European countries if you go to the permit process? But i really don't want you and your fellow shitskins to have a gun.

What about it.
If someone burglarises, robs, assault, hurts, or in any other way goes out of their way to harm you the punishment should be death.

As much as i dislike american foreign policy one thing i admire from them is their based gun rights and militarism, people here tend to hate our own army due to the dictatorship and gun ownership is not that popular here .

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move to USA edgy underaged retard and slurp american crap, suck it out off their assholes and get shot by a fat retard while screaming freedom

>Did you know you can have a gun in most European countries if you go to the permit process?
Did you know that even if you go through all of that and get a legal firearm, you're still not allowed to use it for self-defense or even to protect your home with it in most of Europe?

The 2nd amendment is unironically based

You are here. You can shoot some dead in self defence. Not every EU cunt is a total pussy.

This If you want to stop a bad thing from happening why is such minor thing as law doing you?

Saving your family's lives is worth ten years in prison or hiding from justice

Get an illegal gun, police won't know until the moment you use it

Normally burglars tend to avoid you, they don't actively seek to hurt you (they are capable of waiting months before invading your house, they want to make sure that you aren't there when the crime takes place), and even so, don't you think that death is going a bit too far?
They deserve death if they get to kill you or severy hurt you, that's true. But I think that forcing them into jail for decades while having them and their family to pay for the damage done to your property is good enough.
Don't get me wrong, I despise burglars and land invaders, but I still think that killing them is a bit too extreme.

Stop being such a little pussy who can't feel safe without a gun. Sweden is still a very safe country. You'll be fine.

You don't represent the whole EU

The moment someone thinks themselves having the right to steal or hurt another person with intent they denounce any human rights and death is the punishment they should face.

>be american
>nigger invades home
>get shot
>kill nigger
>cops arrive
>"DROP YOUR GUN AND DO 30 BACKFLIPS WITH YOUR LEFT LEG CROSSED OVER YOUR RIGHT ARM OR I SHOOT BANG BAN BANG"
>get shot
>get sent to hospital
>nurse says "don't worry it's just a little shot"
>get shot
>Die
>People at funeral fire at air to show condolences
>get shot

Or you live in nature where people shoot animals to eat.

Post guns
He's talking about America

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>Scenario 1
American dies defending himself, killing the criminal in the process
>Scenario 2
The pussy european gets killed, the criminal makes off with all they wanted, police does nothing
How again is the first option bad?

So we don't need a "le 2nd amendment". Still don't want everyone to have a gun by default.

I'm talking about Sweden.
I would feel safe if i had a high caliber assault rifle, until that day i carry a knife everywhere i go

European is the bigger man, if he killed the killer he'd be just like him.

>be from EL Salvador
>come to USA to flee violence
>get children taken away
>get deported
>die

Ah yes, just sitting back and taking it up the ass while criminals do what they want is ''manly''
It worked out for your country, criminals ravaging and doing whatever they please

What kind of shithole has Sweden become?

actual scenario
>nobody dies
>sven remains a virgin forever

One would be alive and the other would be dead....so not just alike.

>high caliber assult rifle
There not high caliber a assult rifle by definition is a small caliber, Battle rifle is what u want

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it's all fine and well these thought experiments in your head where you shoot the bad guy and live happily ever after, but look at the state of america vs europe. I can understand wanting better stand your ground laws but america is too far gone.

its just one kid who got told at home he cant buy a panzerschrek for homedefense to look cool on /pol, he will die in cancer dont worry, átok

>I would feel safe if i had a high caliber assault rifle, until that day i carry a knife everywhere i go

I really really don't want you to have a gun.

>some Somali nigger runs up to me with a gun
Do you expect this to happen in your lifetime? Has anyone in your family or friends ever been assaulted? With a gun?

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This cracks me up about a lot of my fellow gun owning Americans. They spend so much time, effort, money and training in being ready for a moment when they might have to shoot somebody, and they are most likely never going to be in that scenario. I imagine they will be very disappointed when they die of cancer having never had the opportunity to shoot someone in self-defense.

Another mutt showing his murderous intent. So progressive, such first world.

>So we don't need a "le 2nd amendment"
Who is this "we"? You already said that in your country it is legal to shoot to kill e.g. a burglar as long as your firearm permit is in order. This is not universally true in all EU states, but it should be- hence my call for 2nd amendment-like rights for all EU citizens to own firearms for self-defense.
Since it's legal for you guys, shouldn't it be legal for all EU states?

I used to live in a town of 60000 and there is a Somali ghetto, the be one the arm of one of my black friends

Nobody in my family or friends have ever been assaulted with a gun, and I live in the US.

So I doubt his odds are high.

Criminals aren't punished, police does nothing.
If we had a criminal justice system with the likes of South America or USA then i would be happy.
Life means life, death penalty, torture, isolation, that is punishment, 1 year in a luxury apartment after murdering a person is not a punishment.

Yes, you should be allowed to defend yourself and your family. Even if you use a gun or smash his head in with a rock. Why shouldn't it? Isn't defending yourself a human right?

Can't you simply own a firearm for hunting, use it in self-defense and then claim self-defense in Finland? Here you can shoot someone if you have a gun and in the situation you think it's the least available force to reliably stop an attack on yourself or a third person.

>RINO mad we don’t give a fuck about gay people getting married

Get fucked faggot

I fear for my life taking public transportation, i carry a combat knife on me at all times when i travel using the metro.
If i need to drive and go through some less good areas i use a bullet proof vest and carry a 9mm handgun.
I live in Stockholm

Spoken like a true descendant of plundering snowniggers.

>and even so, don't you think that death is going a bit too far?
Not really, no. If they invade my home with the intent to plunder they unironically waive their right to life.

you can buy a guy in all of europe, getting a hunting rifle is easy, and its perfectly fine for home defense aswell, 2nd amendment is stupid, and you are stupid if you are argueing for it because it shows you dont leave your room or have a mental illness
the fact is we dont need it and its a fucking gun, theres already enough "hunter murders entire family and himself because wife cheated" news

I'm the other guy. Swedish terminology is different. We do not distinguish between assault rifles and battle rifles. Whether they have an intermediate or a full-powered rifle cartridge, they're "automatic carbines" to us.

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I will vote for gun rights only, I would love to have a green candidate that wasn't a complete soys drinking faggot, and liked guns

pussy

I'm sure you do.

Ok, user.
By the way, how bad are things around your zone that caused you to be in favor of having a second amendment in Sweden?

fuck off Satan, I won't believe your lies

It's safer than anywhere on your continent. He's just being a little bitch.

>I was discussing rights with my family
lmao who talks with his family nowadays fagget

Well we were having dinner and with the upcoming election politics and ethics was a topic that was brought up

R8

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Autismal "impending civil war" larper/10

bakelite???

Defending my life isn't a fucking game.

Yeah, I figured so. I really doubt that things would get that bad in Sweden.

would laugh if you got held down and raped by turks with nothing to defend yourself with

Your going to need some guns for all those rounds and magazines, faggot.

Just for comparison, in Italy you gotta "evaluate" whenever your aggression is justified before committing it. You see, legitimate defence here works of only if the defence is proportional to the offence and judges take the liberty of choosing whenever they feel it was proportional.
More often than not they side with the burglar and it isn't uncommon to pay "reparation" to the guy or family because you hurt him. This is the joke that Italy is.

Technically a firearm owner/10.

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Good attitude to have op you shouldn't allow the government to have you in a position where you can't defend yourself

Yes
No, I just buy in bulk bc 20.cents a round is better than 50. Bc I'm a poor fag
>Implying I don't I'm building 2 aks rn

Same here, the criminal gets to rob you and the state forces you to pay the criminal in damages.
Castle doctrine and 2nd amendment is a necessity for a free country

There's something else wrong in USA than guns. Switzerland and Finland has a lot of guns too, but no-one there is talking about defending one self when it comes to guns. The thing has also gotten out of hands in USA. We all need guns though.

makes sense desu, if someone shoulder-bumps you and you break every bone in his body it makes you look like a psycho

If someone breaks into your house they denounce any rights they have.
They are an outlaw and should not be protected by the law

My state is whiter than Vermont, faggot.

>non Americans arguing in favor of American gun laws
Should they be shot?

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Shhhhhh. You’re not supposed to say that, because it implies there might be something fundamentally wrong with our culture and not just have to do to how many guns we have.

You're a retard and a yokel if you can only see black or white, "getting raped by Somalis" or "shooting someone for stepping in your front yard". And I hope you'll never own a firearm.

>If someone breaks into your house they denounce any rights they have.
If this is what you actually believe you actually ARE a psychopath
Just because some drug addict brome my window and tried to steal my computer monitor doesn't give me the right to butcher them into pieces, unless you keep national secrets in your home your property is worth less than a human life.

Why are gun-tards and Jow Forumsedditors so overrepresented on Jow Forums? They give off the impression that they represent the majority of Americans, when reality could not be further from the truth.

It is. The EU doesn't seem to think it is, but it is.
Finnish self-defense law dictates that you should use minimal force in self-defense. You can't stab a burglar or fire a gun at him unless you're backed into a corner with no other option left.
It's up to the courts of course, but more often than not stabbing/shooting an unarmed assailant ends up with you getting a sentence.
shit's fucked. but at least Finns have priorities in order, most people agree that getting a sentence for "excessive self defense" for shooting some druggie is better than letting one terrorize you.
>hunter murders entire family and himself because wife cheated
how often does that happen?

how do you know they're not?

Maybe because we have a board dedicated to them and normal people don't use 4 chan

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Shooting them is ok and I would highly encourage it, but to actually sentence them to death is not a wise choice when compared to other, less edgy, options.

>wanting the basic right to protect yourself makes you a psychopath
Ah yes, lets just call the big goverment mommy to help me
Fuck them, if its MY property and MY life at stake i have the right to defend it

Not a argument sweetie

The problem is that you often can’t be sure of the intent of someone breaking into your home till it is too late.

It’s probably safer to assume they have violent intent, since they are in fact breaking into your home.

Something like 70~80% of Americans support stricter gun control.

makes sense on paper not in at 2 am when I cannot think rationally if someone is trying to break in.
The law has been called bullshit several times because of the whole evaluation thing. Hopefully soon we're going to get something more murrican.

Well, if your opponent is physically stronger and your only options are getting beat up or shooting him, then you're fully justified in shooting him because it's the minimum successful force for defense even if he's unarmed. When in doubt you can always just claim that it was dark and hectic and he gave off the impression that he was armed. Works for American cops all the time.

Of democrats

So much this, the average firearms owner keeps them around like one would a fire extiguisher. It's just so wildly misrepresented and exaggerated here like everything else

70% of American households don't own firearms. In other words the households that do own firearms own three firearms each, or in other words yet there are a ton of non-gun owners in the USA and a minority of gun hoarders.

>sweetie
Back to Jow Forumseddit you go

I also remember being 15.

I know it sounded clever in your head, but unfortunately your cringy unsourced oneliner is not an argument, and you do in fact have to go back to Jow Forumseddit.