Things that should have been

Could you imagine how beautiful and dope south America would be if it was French instead of spanish?

Its like Iberioids dont even want to live in nice societites, they continually turn everywhere they live into utter shit

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It's unironically an interesting idea.
(and a cool flag)

Haiti 2.0 electric boogaloo

here you go.
south america should've been dutch, danish, swedish and german

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Mmm yes, because Africa turned out so well.

But what if we populate it with actually french people...

Just like the 3rd world shitholes of New Brunswick, Québec, St. Pierre, and Miquelon.

>wow, Africa is a shithole, the french must be terrible at colonization!!!
'right

Exactly!

Just like Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Florida, right?

like 5 or 6 french people to run haciendas, 50 opportunistic algerians and 50 african workers

stop memeing, punk

you're right I would rather live in Haiti or sub saharan Africa instead of living in this shitwhole country

Just breaking balls, friend. South Africa would have turned out much better under The French than the Spainish, I have no doubt. You guys have many more successes than them in that regard.

1848 revolutions succeeding

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Those are all shitholes though. They hide it with money but they're still shitty. They were also built in their current form by Anglos, not French or Spanish.

To be fair, Indochina and Syria aren't much better.

just compare French Guyana to chile

see We simply fucked up because we didn't bother to populate it with french people, unlike anglos

>They were also built in their current form by Anglos
Same as Quebec or Louisiana.

Give it 50 years, Pierre. In fact, metropolitan France is rapidly becoming Haiti 2.0 itself.

Isn’t hiding your shitholeness with money what makes you not a shithole anymore?

>implying it isn't thanks to the BIG ANGLO BRAIN that those places aren't shitholes

He is right, though, it's a wonder you didn't ruin Africa or Southeast Asia even more by exporting sand dindus, there.

yes, you fuckedup 90% of the places you steped in, but the bad guys are the spaniards
evrey territory that was owend by the french, is worse than an ex spansish colony

Latin America was destabilized by the American imperialists because of the rising of leftist-ideas.
It would make no difference if we would have been french instead, the same would've happened.

>It would make no difference if we would have been french instead
good to know, now leave your hispanic country and enter the haitian paradise

>tfw we poured all the wealth of Spain into Cuba, making it a literal paradise in the caribbean and more rich than all of Spain and actually colonized the island
>tfw it became a communist shithole with areas outside of Habana being more poor than an African tribe territory

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i think one difference would be that it would have been pretty connected with north america and there would probably have been less wars against the anglos

You get commie, we get bomby.

>but the bad guys are the spaniards
I didn't even say that, m8
>It would make no difference if we would have been french instead, the same would've happened.
Some of our colonies in Africa have an higher HDI than some S.American countries, tho
And our country (which is technically owned by...us) is better than each and every Spanish speaking country

>instead of being colonized by an incompetent European power that didn't give a shit about its colonies would have been much better off if it were colonized by another incompetent European power that didn't give a shit about its colonies!
They should've followed the Anglo model of killing of the natives and replacing them with whites with Protestant work ethic.

americans would have exploited the fuck out of cuba anyway, cuba was always doomed by its geography location

Yeah thanks a lot asshole

>Mexican education

Shithole Louisiana yes, Québec no, it remained French. Officially Catholic, Civil Law instead of Common Law, seigneurial system, members of the French aristocracy recognised, French universities, etc.

No. If Cleetus wins the lottery he doesn't stop being white trash. He just has a nicer trailer and the finest of small batch Budweisers.

If we were French maybe we wouldn't be commies.

>And our country (which is technically owned by...us) is better than each and every Spanish speaking country
yes, after you extracet resources out of all sub saharan africa
also, give me an example of a subsaharan african country that's better than a latin american country

you were also reliant on importing some "farming equipment" since you killed all the native one

Socialism is big in France and the commies were seen as war heroes because they resisted the nazis occupation

>you need to take resources from Africa to be relevant
lolk, I guess Norway and Denmark are seen as tyrants in Africa
>also, give me an example of a subsaharan african country that's better than a latin american country
If you consider a country relevant based on its HDI : Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Gabon, Mauritius, Seychelles

The native ones weren’t very suitable for that kind or work. They possessed a rebelliousness and animal cunning that made them problematic.

absolute retard

Why wasn't France fucked over by the US, then

LMAO you're so retarded
Do you even know what sub-Saharan means?

Oh, sorry, my bad.
Still, we have Gabon.

>Québec no
Cope

Seriously why are you so poorly educated? They didn't import Africans because all tge natives were dead, they did it for a number of other reasons, mainly because you couldn't keep Indians as slaves, they would run away and once they got away you weren't going to get them back, that's if they didn't just kill you. Another is that they died more easily of diseases. Another is that they were thought of as human while Africans were considered animals.

Yeah its not like french colonies are the biggest shitholes out of all the colonial powers

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>Gabon

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Not an argument

They did try, but were unable to attract Anglo settlement and had to make concessions to the French in Québec that allowed them to remain French in an Anglo colony. Admittedly NB is Anglo, St. Pierre et Miquelon is still France.

>South America
>Spanish

And our society is nicer than yours.

Meant to say, Gabon is the only one on par.

The point is that implying you could've killed all the natives in Latin America to make some kind of paradise is dumb. Because countries without natives imported workers from other places that gave them another set of problems anyway

I honestly think it would had been worse.

Cope

They could've imported European workers, though like the UK did sometimes with Irish

The French mixed with and assimilated the natives in Québec though. They didn't kill or relocate them. They worked very well alongside the natives rather than import something else.

Québec imported French women called daughters of the King (filles du roi) to breed with the French settlers and make more French Canadians.

Gotta accept that is a thing the French do right
True

Took me a while to figure out you were being ironic.

Lol the average French Canadians is like 1-2% Native
Why do you keep pushing this meme that you're some kind of northern Mestizos?

I'm not French, just better educated than you, and there are 500,000 known Metís in Canada. It's true that most of the native was bred out but that doesn't reflect poorly on Ftench and Indian relations.

Native American Admixture in the Quebec Founder Population
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Reminder that Euros never settled in warm or tropical climates with the exception of Australia. It's why the Southern U.S is full of negroes. All of Latin America would have looked like Haiti or Jamaica. Spain was the best possible colonizer for the Americas whether you like it or not.

>1-2%

there are lots of "french canadians" who are just filthy irish and wops who adopt french language or lebs and others.

french canadians in the heartlands, acadians and northern quebecois are more mixed and native culturally than any other white group imo. they use to live side by side with the mikmaq and huron and algonquin and so-on, and would participate in snatching white children from american colonies, murdering their parents and raising the kids as full-fledged, equal status members that are seen as equals.

they use to pay quite a bit to raid the yanks and britcucks and french governors use to declare raiding parties whenever they needed cash for ransom or wanted some brides for voyageur immigrants.

Now look at French admixture among First Nations populations

Did you know thereare many white people in Gabon. The winner of their national swimming competition is a white Gabonese.

Sweetie, I'm not going to believe any of your we wuzzing, okay? Just wanna make that clear

Also, you realize that what you're saying about those Natives would make THEM more European, right? Not the other way around. The study is also based on 5 regions of Quebec and all the participants have families going back 5 generations.

yes

Yup just read the paper. Gaspe, North Shore and the original regions on the coast are 4-10%. Inland areas were settled quite a bit later and many would recognize distinct Metis ancestry and wouldn't fall into this bracket.

honestly, you're going to find metis with like 10% native genes but having native culture stretching millenia.

i dunno if you know the concept of genetic drift, but if you have 8/10 odds of inheriting one gene vs 2/10 (native), and you have a highly inbred population (them being the most imbred white people in the continent), the fixed "percentage" of "ancestry" dies down.

that doesn't really mean genes are lost because that ratio balances with natural selection. naturally, indigenous traits e.g. higher cheekbones and sex-vixen look gets selected for.

i'm not even quebecois, but going to the regions around quebec city and seeing a white blue eyed family with a tawny dark eyed kid is pretty normal there (think angelina jolie). or seeing the unusually russian-looking prominent cheekbones is also quite normal.

>4-10%
The highest percentage is 2.81% among Gaspesian French Canadians.

Seriously, why are you so blatantly making stuff up?

You having a fetish over a made up stereotypical look of French Canadians that I've only ever seen mentioned on Jow Forums isn't evidence.

a fucking boxplot average is nothing though and its a shit way of trying to infer ancestry. not even forgetting that the study weeded you out if you had a metis ancestor 5 generations ago.

the point i talked about is taught in first year genetics called genetic drift is very real, since i study this field, genetic drift fucks with small populations and the bigger % group becomes dominant over-time because of chance, but it masques true ancestry since you are counting non-coding DNA to infer ancestry. the group you reference are french are descended from 300 or so indigenous and 8k settlers way early in like 1600. these are the group with average 3 percent, e.g. the whitest purest french canadians.

this study also does not include mixing in later stages where a metis ancestor removes them from the study and metis-quebecois mixing happened much more often in the last 5 generations.

i don't get why you think you can lecture me since i lived in the region long enough and enjoy fucking french canadian girls because they are loose. a girl like ariel rebel is metis identity but you don't find the darkhaired dark-eyed high-cheekbone girls among anglos for example. plenty of quebecois girls who swear they are pure french and have been on my dick will have that trait.

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You guys had trouble populating New France in Canada. How the fuck are you guys going to populate the central and southern Americas?

Unironically the eternal *nglo who salvaged them.