Why do a lot of Americans on Jow Forums seem to think that university/college brainwashes them?

>economic conservatism
so....mercantilism?

Ours almost always sperg out over any kind of state intervention

Trumpism isn't mainstream conservatism. Right-wingers are by and large for the free market.

we don't
it's just too expensive and libtards don't know how economics work

the education system is built up in a way that favors low IQ drones who seek validation through meaningless 'points' and 'grades'

most of the educated people in your country are liberals though

>Why do a lot of Americans on Jow Forums seem to think that university/college brainwashes them?
Take a general education class at a major university in a topic like sociology and you'll see.

according to Adorno all information is propaganda, yes even science

Well in America they're libertarians that think the free market will fix all problems.

this is how you wage class warfare

it's a long vid, 90 mins, but it explains a lot
youtube.com/watch?v=EqUtgFBWezE

ours usually don't get political often, they usually complain about the depenalization of cooking books berlusconi did a decade ago or anti-eu bs

Not by a particularly wide margin though. The difference mostly shows up in postgrad.

Literally anyone in the US can get government-backed loans to attend university.

>sour grapes. most americans can't afford uni.
False you can go to community college for essentially free and transfer your credits to a state school which has low tuition and if you aren't retarded get scholarships.
The problem is idiots here go to college with no plan, insist on doing four years at a college they can't afford and are too dumb to get a scholarship and rack up debt for a worthless degree.
>that's why there's so much science denialism in america in general.
False, that's from religious people many of whom are college educated. They just aren't deeply educated in science and follow faith over fact.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WHY UNDERSTAND BASIC ECONOMICS OR HAVE A GOOD IDEA ON HOW TO FUND ANY OF THIS

>flag
How come most mainstream economists there aren't lolbertarians then?

"basic economics" is literally a few models that explain extreme cases that are not really useful in understanding complex real world problems
>dude supply and demand lmao therefore must deregulate

Only when their guy isn't the President.

It's called basic economics for a reason. Of course they aren't useful in understanding complex real world problems. That's why no one except armchair economists relies on them. That's like calling physics bunk because the atomic model taught to elementary school students isn't accurate.

>the atomic model taught to elementary school students isn’t accurate.

See. Total fucking brainwashing!

>religion in education is bad

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Because Soviets infiltrated our universities in the 1960s and 1970s and never stopped, even after the USSR fell.

SJW was a mistake. It should be repressed just like the Red Scare.

It is, you meme spouting faggot. Go to theological school if you want that retardation skyfairie shit.

>SJW was a mistake
SJW is just anything the alt-right doesn't like.

You're supposed to get gen eds out of the way during high school with AP credits and/or community college courses during summer or after school. That's the ideal way to do it.

This
I’ve heard someone who went to one of the best public schools in the country say that evolution isn’t real

>atheism

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There is value in theology that you are willfully ignoring, solely on the basis of ignorance

this desu

going to uni taught me first hand that "all teachers are le SJW XDDD" is such a laughable lie. Nuance and critical thinking were one of the first think taught by our lecturers

>There is value in theology that you are willfully ignoring, solely on the basis of ignorance

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Mostly of the continent do, eurofags learn old past irrelevant shit

most Americans aren't libertarians

uni professors are politically biased here as well, and it's usually to the left. I've gone to uni and personally witnessed these people say condescending stuff about the right wing and their voters. It's basically "cool" to be a leftist in some academic circles and if you're conservative you're not part of the group. Young uni students, specially females, are easily affected by this kind of group pressure

>You're supposed to get gen eds out of the way during high school with AP credits and/or community college courses during summer or after school. That's the ideal way to do it.
I was an engineer we had to take 4 non-science/math classes and AP didn't count. We also had to do two successive classes in a different field.

>You're supposed to get gen eds out of the way during high school with AP credits and/or community college courses during summer or after school. That's the ideal way to do it.
I was an engineer we had to take 4 non-science/math classes and AP didn't count. We also had to do two successive classes in a different field.

did you just wake up from a 2 year comma today?

So when does Islam class start my dudes?

they are most likely talking about Christianity

there is value in critical thinking and the historical/contextual learning in theology, but religious doctrine is worthless at this point. Our culture has developed morality beyond the theocratic values it began with

It seems to provide some comfort to some people in horrible situations. I’d say that has value.

fair enough, but that belongs in the family and not education, which should be secular.

Yeah, absolutely. Injected into education it not only seems worthless, but actively counterproductive.

because it does

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>Why do a lot of Americans on Jow Forums seem to think that university/college brainwashes them?
because they haven't gone to uni for the most part, and most reactionary types think that people pointing out obvious flaws in our perception of history, social structures and economics is the cultural marxism bogeyman

they are young, of course they would experiment doing different types of things

sour grapes. i went to one of the more diverse universities in the country but took something related to business and didn't encounter any of this "SJW" or other shit people talk about

It's actually the opposite. It's far more common for left wing politically outspoken professors to be let go or not get renewed than if they lean right. And there are a tonne of right wing professors in american academia.

Their education is partly fucked, I'd imagine stem isn't fucked.
Someone post the Pepeism image, I don't have it and I can't find it in the archives.

US universities are a joke.
youtube.com/watch?v=bO1agIlLlhg

source

Completely untrue

>young, care free people doing crazy things
Alri boomer

youtube.com/watch?v=HxtVorLYnds

debate groups have always been known by people left and right to be made up of trust fund kids raised in a bubble by real estate moguls who have no proper sense of reality

debate societies are nearly the worst people you could find in a uni

The winners might be some trust fund kid's idea of a joke, but those are not trust fund kids.
It's off the rails all across the country.

What I like about the conspiracy theory of higher education being brainwashing is that it's designed to be unverifiable and unfalsifiable. It's argued with circular reasoning according to which its proponents never went to university because they believe it impairs judgment and they believe it impairs judgment because they never had their judgment impaired due to never having went to university. Anyone who can challenge their assertion is further evidence of indoctrination because witnessing the subject of accusation means falling under its influence. It's something you're only ever allowed to have faith in because putting the claim under scrutiny exposes you to dangerous knowledge.

>Implying every economics department isn't comprised exclusively by keynesians

This is an economics "nobel" prize

nytimes.com/2015/08/21/opinion/paul-krugman-debt-is-good-for-the-economy.html

Nobody criticizes engineers or doctors, but sociologists or economists want to be regarded as much experts as the formers when their fields are all about ideology very little about facts.

This, some fields are essentially meaningless circlejerks, only stems are mostly free of it.

>This is an economics "nobel" prize
>nytimes.com/2015/08/21/opinion/paul-krugman-debt-is-good-for-the-economy.html
What did he say wrong?
>Nobody criticizes engineers or doctors
Doctors are some of the most criticized professionals out there. There are almost as many proponents of alternate medicine as there are alternate medicines. These people have their own ideas of how the body works and think that they know better than the experts or, worse, that the experts are in a cabal to hide the truth.

>nobody criticizes engineers
I have people who never even graduated high school trying to tell me how to go my job.

>most americans can't afford uni.
you poor ignorant future somali, ever hear of the US student debt crisis? since the assend of the 'economy' dropped out everyone and their dog has taken out federally backed loans to go to school.
>uncle sam paid for all these sjw 'degrees'
>job market is still shit
>we're all fucked

that almost no one can pay back without ruining their lives because of market saturation and low wages