So it seems like Trump doesn't want tariffs down to zero, he just hates the European consumer who doesn't want to buy American cars. Free trade means eating up American products or else?
Trade War
well for trump, this is destabilizing the evil 4° reich known as European Union.
It's funny because even americans know better than to buy american cars
Promising to lower tariffs on a product you're not buying anyway is clearly not a good offer.
Whether Europeons want American cars or not is another issue but what Trump is saying makes perfect sense.
this. i would buy mazda or nissan before american garbage
I can't help but find the whole thing a bit funny.
what does he even want if he knows europeans prefer european cars and they're already proposing almost no entry barrier to european markets?
does he want the EU to literally pay extra to import them into a market that doesn't care for the product?
>but what Trump is saying makes perfect sense.
So free trade means eating up American products or else? What happened to comparative advantage that free trade is good because one side concentrates on the things he can do well and everyone benefits?. Like Europeans do cars and Americans, I dunno, movies? Should Europe tariff the shit out of capeshit movies because American "consumer habits are to buy their movies, not our movies"? Does this make perfect sense to you?
I would buy used merrican landbarges if:
1. They were as cheap as euro and japanese
2. Gas was half as expensive
3. Spare parts were affordable and easy to find
Unless these are fixed there just isn't a point.
Watch him tariff Argentina just to flex how powerful the US economy is
in my experience only japs do good cars
im a fan of those volvos tho, specifically sedans and stationwagons
>dem safety ratings
euro input on their reliability and value?
We don't want free trade. We want fair trade.
>Should Europe tariff the shit out of capeshit movies because American
Tariffs would only be useful to get european consumers to stop buying american movies. They'd have little influence on the american market itself.
My coworker got a second hand Chevy and instantly regretted it as soon as it started having problems since the company provides next to no maintenance support here unlike Japanese brands.
Of course I'll always be thankful for Trump putting next to no pressure on us while also making it so US companies are forced to move their manufacturing out of China to countries like mine AND encouraging both Chinese and to American consumers to import more from us as a consequence of their trade war fallout.
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Im tired of politics
I say we kill all politicians and replace politics with common sense
Fair is a useless descriptor in this case, since it's relative, you dumb waffle.
Why do they keep publishing photos of him where he looks like a fish?
>t. Bolshevik, 1917
Volvos are seen as "old people cars" here, since they are known to be safe, boring and the sort of cars old people (with money) drive.
My brother learned how to drive in an old Volvo sedan. He took it for a joy ride one weekend before he could even handle changing gears and ended up skidding around a gravely corner and sailed right through an paddock fence.
It was a comfy car up till that point. Spacious, plenty of vision and surprisingly good sound insulation. Felt like a big box on wheels.
>since the company provides next to no maintenance support here unlike Japanese brands
If you buy a 90s model Toyota Camry here, you'll always be able to find nearly any part for cheap replacement at any random scrapyard. Damage a BMW or something and expect to pay and arm and a leg for a replacement part.
Since cars are the main subject, may i remind you that Renault-Nissan is the number one automobile company in the world right now and that German charlatans are crying rivers right now ?
So fair trade means eating up American products or else? Why would anyone want to have trade relations with a partner like that?
>It was a comfy car up till that point. Spacious, plenty of vision and surprisingly good sound insulation. Felt like a big box on wheels.
then that's my kinda car, definitely fine with boxy
We buy European cars because amerifats only make 5 litre pickup trucks that only do 6 miles to the fucking gallon.
>surprisingly good sound insulation
In some cars this bothers me so much that I have open the window to feel aware enough of my surroundings.
apparently straya is stuck in the 80s, newest volvo is love, just so fucking expensive
lmao now Trump is threatening to withdraw from WTO: bbc.co.uk
We make the world's best trucks desu
Trump can do whatever he wants, Europeans will never buy chevys.
No one needs trucks
I’m worried because I work for a steel company in Texas and we export a lot of our steel to Mexico. The retaliatory tariffs hit us hard. I want this NAFTA shit to get done fast so the tariffs get listed, but I’m praying that Trump didn’t screw over American steel when they drew up this new deal.
GAS THE MUTTS
TRADE WAR NOW
*tariffs get lifted
Fuck off libtard.
>We want fair trade.
It seems to me that 'fair' for Americans means all the wealth go to America while the world get poorer.
I don't get it, wasnt this what he wanted? the euros are dropping their price to get a deal done and he spits on their face again? how's he going to get any deal done with other cunts then
This will hurt America so fucking much. Is this boomer allowed to do this on his own? Doesn't he need the senate to something like this?
We have the ability to make EU suffer more than they can make us suffer, so EU will have to bend over on this one.
>so EU will have to bend over on this one.
How? By forcing the population to buy American cars even if they don't want them?
no you dont kek, only if you collapse
Oh freedomland, when will you make your cars great again?
Now it's all just shitty Chryslers and Chevrolets.
you make scania now?
Lol, the EU just formed the biggest trading bloc ever by signing an FTA with Japan
Wrong though. There's a reason why militants prefer the Toyota Hilux™, because its built to last.
There are people on this planet that buy anything other than Japanese cars? Are they stupid or just don't know?
That's a 70 series cruiser, far superior to a Hilux
>We don't want "free" but "fair"
Sounds Socialist to me, commie.
Don't forget CETA thanks to trump threatening us this week again.
Fuck America at this stage. Trump Voters ruined America's relations with every single country in the world except Russia, Israel and Saudi Arabia.
>Turkey
>All the money should go to america and everyone should suck american corporate dick
And here you are complaining about chyna, fuck off
CETA is important as well, but the EU-Japan Trade deal is historic. It covers one-third of the entire global economy and over 600M people
Does this mean that my anime figures will become cheaper to import?
But the Brits got fucked. Every Japanese company is moving back to the EU. Panasonic just announced that they will set up headquarters in Amsterdam instead of London.
It's mostly focused on cars and electronics companies, I don't know if anime figures were heavily tariffed
Unironically yes
>Russia
Are you fucking stupid? Our relations have hit the new low, at this point even American Embacy has factually stopper issuin visas to Russian citizens, every American newspaper is taking shit on everithing Russian/anything even slightly related to Russia.
Not complaining, fuck them back, but this is ridiculous.
But Trump was your plan tho....
Is it "fair trade" that Google and Apple completely dominate the phone software market of the world and both are American?
Is it fair that Intel and AMD who make basically all CPUs sold in Europe are both American?
That Amazon completely dominates the online retail market in Europe?
I guess that's completely okay with you but Europeans having a 10% car market share in America is totally unacceptable.
I think the Putin made use of boomer Trump. Because they can. They did not made him.
Oh my, need to buy a new TV someday soon, now I'm thinking a Japanese one if they become cheaper. Free trade rules.
>know better than to buy american cars
Isn't your auto market almost exclusively American with euro cars being somewhat like token sellers?
>I guess that's completely okay with you but Europeans having a 10% car market share in America is totally unacceptable.
Well yes, American conception of "fair trade" is that everyone bows down to American corporate interests no questions asked. Nothing to do with free trade.
so trade without us then LMAO
what the fuck does finland produce? nokia and useless operating systems? utility knives? autism and alcoholism?
Wait until 2019 for the deal to come into effect first
Yup that’s pretty much it. Nothing but good old Fords and Chevvy’s with a soon to be banned BMW here and there.
Anyway Japs do final assembly in the US so magapedes are fine with them for some reason
isn't your country one big greedy kike bank?
>money should go to america
Since almost all the western military means are provided by the Americans, yes, they have a point on that.
Lol, do you beleive it, all this ass play in US was meant as a lame excuse to put even more pressure on Russia to curb its development (including development in relations between Russia and EU). Now it's basically haram for US and its poodles to do any busyness with Russia and based on what? Alleged hacking, alleged spy-poisoning (that particular fint from UK was especially egregious cause we can't even find out what actually happens with Skripals now, are they even alive?), alleged warcrimes in a country they themselves have bombed for years without UN mandate...
US sucks donkey dick and won't get its act straight, fucking mutts.
No it's not anymore dumbass because you wanted monopoly for Delaware, which is the biggest destination for non-US people that want to evade taxes.
'Do what I tell, not what I do'.
Right
Literally 12% of your country's GDP is from banking.
You know, when you give enough shit to your friends they will turn on you, no matter how bick of a dick you have. There is enough paying customers in China alone to minimize long-term damage of loosing US market in spheres of high-tech and luxury goods. And you (an in "US") acting like an asshole will make this decision for EU countries much easier. Do you want it to happen?
>apparently straya is stuck in the 80s
The car likely was from the 80s.
>newest volvo is love, just so fucking expensive
That's why old people (with money) drive them. Your average person can't afford a new Volvo and Boomers hoard the wealth.
Btw you can check here how your country will be impacted by the EPA: ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/in-focus/eu-japan-economic-partnership-agreement/eu-japan-in-your-town/
Maybe even companies in your town
You could hit that ute with a hellfire missile and have it back up and running within a day. Near impossible to kill.
We’re gonna keep buying them from Mexico
Trump’s been working on NAFTA and it’s about to be finalized, the fact that he turned down reducing European tariffs tells us that he strikes a deal with Mexico and Canada
>fuel is 1.65euros/lt here
>jeez why do europoors won't buy our 7000cc V8 350hp MUNSTERSSS but they buy those 450hp 2000cc turbodiesel VWs reeeee
Average american hates russians yes, always been that way, but you have Trump fellating Putin in a Finnish sauna and top-level American officials having been openly bribed by Russians.
American government plays a tough game but they know they are Russian-controlled.
This man is comedy gold.
How are Renault cars? They don't sell those in the US.
Volvo is nothing like it was. It’s a car for rich educated people that want to signal they are well off but don’t want to be seen in a Mercedes/BMW.
If you go to a rich neighborhood in the Netherlands it’s nothing but Audi and Volvo because of this
thats unfortunate, norway and sweden is filled with them, do they get a discount or what, you are supposed to be rich too
I would buy chervolet volt
Before the French arrive:
They are cheap. They are our Nissans. There have been a few nice models but most are not and they are known for their unreliability especially electronics
Nissan and Renault develop cars together btw
Scandis are rich as hell. Volvos sell for Audi prices.
American separation of powers is a joke, the president can do anything he wants by executive orders completely ignoring the legislative bodies.
They're fucking garbage lmao. Just buy german volvo or jap
Renault doesn't make American style cars? I like how they look. But that's it.
>just buy German
*Czech
youtu.be
Skoda is the thinking mans car
It's a literal VW without the VW logo (and less pricey)
Fucking Germans again.
Bullshit, US cngress is relentlessy sanctioning Russia since 2015, there were like 20 packages applied already. They are thretening to sanction any country that's doing busyness with Russia (like Turkey with S400 buy, Fillipines with generan mill trade deals, even India - for merely thinking about buying Russian mill tech as for other stuff - EU is strongly discouraged from buying Russian gas, Nord Stream 2 has wheels fuul of sticks from Butthurt belt and scandi fags etc.). Thats facts on the groung and autistic skreeching about mere TALKS with Putin is indicative of US actual intentions as talk means nothing, actions do.
It’s a German company that constantly gets manhandled by VAG to make sure their products don’t exceed VW.
Magapedes on /o/ intrigue me. A Porsche is nothing but a rebadged Up! but Skoda somehow isn’t.