Why do they look like Arabs despite being connected to the European mainland?
Why do they look like Arabs despite being connected to the European mainland?
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>climate
>Neolithic farmer origin
>mixing with North Africans
Spaniards aren’t actually European
Because we are mostly from neolitic farmer stock and those dudes came literally from freaking palestine.
They don't, they look European. Go treat your complex or keep embarrassing yourself, your choice.
>>Neolithic farmer origin
Don't all Europeans have this?
>Spaniards aren’t actually European
What are Spaniards considered in the UK? Arabs?
my descendants :)
Cause they were under moor control for centuries
Spanish men are fucking SEXY
>Don't all Europeans have this?
15% or 20%, We are like 85% neolithic farmer. Pic related is a sardinian, they are the only population who has mantained its genetics purely from neolithic stock
We arent, giovanni, you are the one who have the inferiority complex.
They were from Anatolia
>We are like 85% neolithic farmer.
Proofs?
Majority of spaniards could pass as saudis, only a small percentage of them are white
Science and shit, also the fact you can’t tell us apart from arabs
>only a small percentage of them could pass for white
Fix’d.
>Because we are mostly from neolitic farmer stock and those dudes came literally from freaking palestine.
but that's wrong
They established in Anatolia and spread from there to Europe but they came originally from the middle east.
85% may be a bit exaggerated but It is quite high and is the majority of our DNA.
That's what he said?
They were not there from the beginning, you tard. They migrated from the middle east to Anatolia where they developped farming techniques, from there they spread throughout Europe.
What do people in Jordan think of Spain and Spaniards? Are they considered a brother nation?
but that's fucking wrong as literal ancient DNA proved, can't you read?
over 90% of anatolia_neolithic DNA is the same as that of Anatolian hunter gatherers, ergo they essentially learned farming
the link with the middle east is older and predates farming
the idea that they came from the levant is old and surpassed by ancient DNA
Passing as white and being white are two different things. It implies that those who can pass as whites are not white either.
Kys monkey
Nope, it’s not the same. Passing for white doesn’t mean you are actually a real white.
They are French and German
I’ve seen Levantines that fair too. What’s your point?
A german family and a republican spanish
Wait people like believe this shit kek
>inb4 but its tru xdd!!!
>french
Good luck finding ethnic french among their ancestors.
>connected to the European mainland
are they?
Anatolian farmers aren’t the same as Levantine farmers
The mother is from Asturias though.
>the link with the middle east is older and predates farming
And so what? sooner or later there is a connection, We are from originally from that fucking shithole, even If we dont like it.
Do you already went chefe??
I spent 3 months there traveled all península.
They look Puerto rikans or North africans-arabs. 10%-20% look european
Ive seen more europeans in Buenos Aires, Sul do Brasil and countryside são paulo
>It implies that those who can pass as whites are not white either.
They aren't that's why it's called passing
most people here see them the same way they see any other european country.
You were the one asking for the difference, m8.
They look Mediterranean
No anime posting yet?
That is a pleasant way of saying sandnigger.
What is wrong about what he said?
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SAD! I thought we had a special place in your hearts
>And so what? sooner or later there is a connection, We are from originally from that fucking shithole, even If we dont like it.
well even WHGs descend from peoples who at some point moved from the middle east(hell, their main paternal lineage was I, cousin of MENA J), your point is moot
the idea that EEF were "middle eastern" in a modern sense is nonsense as much as saying that ancient north Eurasians were "mongolians" because the Malta Boy was found there
in fact, it may very well turn out that it is European-related populations that moved to MENA and mixed there with basal Eurasians to form Natufians, levant_neolithic and anatolia_neolithic
the most MENA looking people in south Europe are more of a result of post neolithic near eastern input starting to arrive in the bronze age, or, in the case of Spain, north African input starting to show in the bronze age as a recent paper is claiming
>The mother is from Asturias though.
And the father isn't
Why?
And Arabs are Med
Check his ancestors, you NPC spammer
so you want to blow us up in pieces?, I thought we were brothas.
>most
whats the minority view
We should cut pirenees and become Atlantis.
You have any proofs for that last claim?
I did
lolno you didn’t, indio puto
I want to smell on a Spanish girl's flip flops after she spent the whole day walking them on the beach so badly
Moors.
this is the abstract from a conference happening this year, paper isn't out yet
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>The Iberian Peninsula, lying on the southwestern corner of Europe, provides an excellent opportunity to assess the final impact of population movements entering the continent from the east and to study prehistoric and historic connections with North Africa. Previous studies have addressed the population history of Iberia using ancient genomes, but the final steps leading to the formation of the modern Iberian gene pool during the last 4000 years remain largely unexplored. Here we report genome-wide data from 153 ancient individuals from Iberia, more than doubling the number of available genomes from this region and providing the most comprehensive genetic transect of any region in the world during the last 8000 years. We find that Mesolithic hunter-gatherers dated to the last centuries before the arrival of farmers showed an increased genetic affinity to central European hunter-gatherers, as compared to earlier individuals. During the third millennium BCE, Iberia received newcomers from south and north.
Why are you butthurt that they're French?
because they aren’t, indio puto
From my experience in Southern Europe: 1/3 of italians look europeans. 1/5 of spaniards and portuguese look european.
The rest would be considered latino-mena in United States.
They arent different from "white" latinos. But you can fins more "europeans" in Brazils South, São Paulo countryside and BuenosbAires
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>The presence of one individual with a North African origin in central Iberia demonstrates early sporadic contacts across the strait of Gibraltar. Beginning ~2500 BCE, the arrival of individuals with steppe-related ancestry had a rapid and widespread genetic impact, with Bronze Age populations deriving ~40% of their autosomal ancestry and 100% of their Y-chromosomes from these migrants. During the later Iron Age, the first genome-wide data from ancient non-Indo-European speakers showed that they were similar to contemporaneous Indo-European speakers and derived most of their ancestry from the earlier Bronze Age substratum. With the exception of Basques, who remain broadly similar to Iron Age populations, during the last 2500 years Iberian populations were affected by additional gene-flow from the Central/Eastern Mediterranean region, probably associated to the Roman conquest, and from North Africa during the Moorish conquest but also in earlier periods, probably related to the Phoenician-Punic colonization of Southern Iberia.
They are. I guess you're jealous or something desu
Indio puto jajajaja xDxDxddddd
Stop responding and giving attention to this literal subhuman please
They aren’t, indio puto, 3/4 of his grandparents were germans and the other one was already mixed. And your NPC brain can’t comprehend something as basic as there wasn’t that much french nobility to mix with after the French Revolution so Felipw VI basically is 99% german. But wait, AlfonsoXIII’s father was a spanish pleb anyway
>are they white?
>autists gets triggered
every single time
This desu. This Spanish poster claiming the royal family doesn't have French ancestry is so annoying.
white people are so weird desu
They are mostly white but some of them, particularly on the south, look like mudslime. When the muslims invaded they copulated with the locals and now we have these mix raced "europeans".
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Don't know about that. People from Catalonia or the Basque Country also look swarthy. The only white looking Spanish I've seen are the Royal Family
ethnonationalists are such cringy retards.
>ethnonationalists are such cringy retards.
>lives in an ethnostate
Go to Spain
Travel through the country
See for yourself
Just 20% look european
And 30% of italians
>They are mostly white
We're not you fucking retard I can't tell apart most locals from Moroccan inmigrants
So you are telling me that germans who migrated to brazil look more like germans than us. Wow, impressive. And also you have discovered that the latino-mena like you call them are iberians that migrated to the new world and some of them mixed with natives. You're a fucking genius, haven't you won the nobel prize yet?
Also, stop using european for calling the north and central europeans. We are as european as them. May be hard to be a new worlder and have such a identity crisis that you need to use a meaningless term like "white" to identify yourself.
Why don't you just accept that you're Med and not European?
Also, pretty sure by latino-mena he was referring to yourselves.
Because we are both things. It's like asking why don't you just accept that you're native and not hispanoamerican.
Med and European are exclusive
I'm a european citizen like you
> implying
>people keep replying to this guy's bait threads.
t. proxy
So if you{rere mexican you cannot be more ridiculous stop embarrasing yourslef and us please
>they're French
The king has *one* French ancestor. 10 generations ago.
Europe as a landmass touches the med sea, so obviously they are not
Why are you posting Croatians?
¿De que estas hablando?
Of course youre european.
In fact, i think northern africans are europeans too since they were part of the Roman empire. When ive said european here was because i didnt want to type white or some shit like that
Why do Spaniard on Jow Forums always refer to them as French?
I’m obviously talking ethnically. I mean Kalmykia is in Europe but they’re Asian
De que haces este thread diario ya cállate el hocico pendejo con tus epic baits
Croatians are Mediterraneans, Europeans and Slavs at the same time.
Include Levantines, Iraqis and Egyptians as well, in that case.
No he hecho ningún thread como este en días.
Croatians actually look like Europeans unlike you, though. Also, I’ve never seen them identify themselves as Med, only you’re doing that.
Europeans=/=white
Well, duh. Australia and Canada exist.
>Croatians actually look like Europeans
Why, because many of them are blond? Many Slavs are blondes. If "looking European" means being blond, then even Boers look like Europeans.
South Europeans are Europeans. Samis are Europeans. Tatars are Europeans. Get over it.
they were literally a muslim colony for 800 years
and everyone knows that "muslim" is a skin colour
European
Med
Arab
No Juan your spanish ancestors were not white, you are not white
>Why, because many of them are blond?
No, there are plenty of non-blond Europeans like Orlando Bloom
>even Boers look like Europeans.
They do. What else would they look like if they're descended from Dutch?
>South Europeans are Europeans. Samis are Europeans. Tatars are Europeans. Get over it.
Refer to this comment I made about Kalmyks What you're saying is akin to say Australians are ethnically Australians just cause they live there.
I don't know about Spain but when I was in Bari, italians used to walk up to me and talk to me in italian as if I was a local or something.
Este es un país libre, mierdero, pero libre. Déjalo expresar su parecer.
>things that never happened
Italians look like Levantine Arabs or Tunisian at best. They defined don’t look pajeet-lites like Saudis.
Well, they were called Moor cause they were swarthy.