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Learning resources: First and foremost check the Jow Forums Wiki. (feel free to contribute) 4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/The_Official_Jow Forums_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki
Check this pastebin for plenty of language resources as well as some nice image guides. pastebin.com/ACEmVqua
/Lang/ is currently short on those image qts, so if you can pitch in to help create one for a given language, don't hesitate to do so!
FAQ: >How do I learn a language? What is the best way to learn one? How should I improve on certain aspects? Go to a course >When can I move on to a different language? Never >What language should I learn Whichever
I'm trying..i can comprehend french but barely form actual thoughts. What are some good sites or things I can do to expose myself to the language more. Just lerk jeuxvideo instead of Jow Forums?
I feel like there isn't much french media, half the stuff I watch is just english things subbed in french. Maybe I need to find some good french youtubers, only part is I cant understand them if there isn't subs.
What do you enjoy? Look for that. Like really, what other things do you enjoy?
Isaiah Young
I like shitposting on korean BBQ recipe trading image boards
Actually reading/watching anime in french is pretty good and my favorite enjoyable past-time. It's just harder to find good sites in french compared to english some times. Idk if it is their copyright laws, but a lot of shit gets taken down compared to something like kissmanga that has everything always.
Xavier Jenkins
>lerk jeuxvideo Depends on what forum you want to browse, some of them are using so much internet slang and you would'nt understand anything
What are you interested in? Video games? Movies? Science? Some channels have english subtitles. The first that comes to my mind is Joueur du Grenier, the French AVGN. But just a warning, he has a strong southern accent
Luke Watson
Do you like vidya? Watch french streams/LPs Like reading? Read books. Not like top tier literature, but simple genre fiction, maybe stuff you've already read in English once. (The harry potter meme for example)
Hunter Diaz
Italian friends, I've asked this before but I'll ask it again since I didn't get a reply:
What's the difference betwee spoglio and nudo? I know they both mean naked, but in which contexts should they be used?
what are the differences between the souther accent and the others? i heard that quebecois dont make guttural r. how do they pronounce "prendre" and "pendre"?
Kevin James
>some of them are using so much internet slang and you would'nt understand anything Yeah I definitely have a hard time understanding some of the shit they say. I like anime and video games primarily. Think I've actually heard of Joueur du Grenier, I'll check it out. Thanks
Good idea on LPs. I'll look for some that have subs.
Ayden Gomez
>Make you you I already said please, I am a peaceful man
una*, my spaghettifriendo o limbă, două limbi, feminine >o limbă feminină >mfw
>korean BBQ recipe trading image boards this is a mongolian basket weaving methods exchange board with vector graphics support, I think you have the wrong website
naked = nudo Spoglio potrebbe forse significare nudo ma non sentirai mai nessuno dire "sono spoglio" poiché non ha nessun senso. al massimo si può dire spoglio di qualcosa, ma non credo che la persona comune lo utilizzi
Insomma se vuoi dire naked è nudo, spoglio non si usa mai, e quelle poche volte che viene utilizzato credo la traduzione più corretta sarebbe "senza" (without)
Parker Martinez
Grazie mille. I guess the article writer was just trying to be an intelectual snob.
Julian Brooks
Ai dreptate, sunt prost
Liam Howard
Tiresome day at the lab edition - no typos aswell, please.
Easy:
Do you need help? She is doing it wrong. He made her stop. It will become yellow. I do not understand.
Medium:
I think we have to do everything again. These results are uninterpretable / These results are bad. If the coffee quality does not improve I will start bringing my own coffee beans. Can you prepare these solutions while I go to the toilet? Be careful when you remove the polyacrylamide gel, the tray it lies in is not fully enclosed. The machine is set up backwards.
Really hard:
A man who had climbed upon a certain fig tree, was bending the boughs toward him and plucking the ripe fruit, which he then put into his mouth to destroy and gnaw with his hard teeth. The chestnut, seeing this, tossed its long branches and with tumultuous rustle exclaimed: "Oh Fig! How much less protected by nature you are than I. See how my sweet offspring are set in close array; first clothed in soft wrappers over which is the hard but softly lined husk. And not content with this much care, nature has also given us these sharp and close-set spines, so that the hand of man cannot hurt us." Then the fig tree began to laugh, and after the laughter it said: "You know well that man is of such ingenuity that he will bereave even you of your children. But in your case he will do it by means of rods and stones; and when they are felled he will trample them with their feet or hit them with stones, so that your offspring will emerge from their armor crushed and maimed; while I am touched carefully by his hands, and never, like you, with roughness.
Continuing the tradition of being the worst posters on Jow Forums
Brody Watson
>Easy: >Do you need help? As-tu besoin d'aide? >She is doing it wrong. Elle le fait d'une fausse manière >He made her stop. Il l'a arretée >It will become yellow. Ça va devenir jaune >I do not understand. Je ne comprends pas >Medium: >I think we have to do everything again. Je pense que nous devons faire tout encore >These results are uninterpretable / These results are bad. Ces resultats sont mals >If the coffee quality does not improve I will start bringing my own coffee beans. Si la qualité de café n'amolerie pas, je vais commencer apporter mes propres grains de café. >Can you prepare these solutions while I go to the toilet? Pourriez-vous preparer cettes solutions tandis que je vais à la toilette. >Be careful when you remove the polyacrylamide gel, the tray it lies in is not fully enclosed. Soyez prudent quand tu otes le gelle polyacrylamic, le (tray) où le gelle se trouve n'est pas fermé complement
Elijah Diaz
dude there are words ive never seen before in really hard. wtf do bough and tumultuous mean?
Charles Gonzalez
>Do you need help? Hai bisogno d'aiuto? >She is doing it wrong. Lei lo sta facendo erroneamente >He made her stop. Lui l'ha fatto fermare >It will become yellow. Diventerà giallo >I do not understand. Storia della vita mia
>I think we have to do everything again. Penso che dovremmo fare tutto di nuovo >These results are uninterpretable / These results are bad. Questi resultati sono cattivi(?) >If the coffee quality does not improve I will start bringing my own coffee beans. Se la qualità del caffè non migliorare, porterò i miei chicchi di caffè >Can you prepare these solutions while I go to the toilet? Puoi preprare questi soluzioni mentre vado in bagno >Be careful when you remove the polyacrylamide gel, the tray it lies in is not fully enclosed. Stai attento quando rimuoveri(?) il gel di poliacrilammide, il vassoio(?) non è completamente chiuso >The machine is set up backwards. La macchina è preparata al contrario
The two last sentences are really difficult.
Question: is chiccho di caffè regularly used or is it always chicchi di caffè?
Kayden Hill
I've seen tumultuous but they're not really words anyone uses besides highschoolers trying to sound intelligent via a thesaurus
Cooper White
>도움을 필요합습니까? >그녀는 이 일을 나쁘게 하고 있어요. >그는 그녀를 멈추게 했다. >그것은 노란색이 될 거예요. >이해하지 않아요.
>커피 품질이 나아지지 않을 거면 저는 제 커피 콩을 가져올 거예요.
Hudson Rodriguez
ok, which one
Jack Davis
i used to be that highschool LOL
Ryan Clark
Anyone took a learning course in Japan? I wanna go study there in the future and I wanna know how much should I save up, and how good should I get before applying. (N3 or so I guess?)
Joshua Butler
>at the lab wat doe je daar eigenlijk? behalve naar Australische piemels lachen
trouwens ik vind dat je de mooiste uitdagingen maakt mooi fabeltje ook
en dus: chestnut = de kastanjeboom fig tree = de vijgenboom boughs = branches = de takken plucking ~= plekken (?) gnaw = knagen husk = de schil spines = de stekels bereave = beroven bereave of = beroven van emerge = opduiken crushed = verpletterd maimed = verminkt roughness = ruwheid (?)
>A man who had climbed upon a certain fig tree, was bending the boughs toward him and plucking the ripe fruit, which he then put into his mouth to destroy and gnaw with his hard teeth. Een man die een beperkte vijgenboom had opgeklimd was de takken naar hem aan te buigen om rijp fruit te plekken, en vervolgens ze in z'n mond te knagen met zijn tanden. >The chestnut, seeing this, tossed its long branches and with tumultuous rustle exclaimed: Dit hebbende gezien, de kastanjeboom gooit (?) zijn lange takken en met veel geritsel roept: >"Oh Fig! How much less protected by nature you are than I Ag, Vijg! Wat minder beschermd door de natuur ben jij dan ik! >See how my sweet offspring are set in close array; first clothed in soft wrappers over which is the hard but softly lined husk. Zie je hoe meer dichtbij m'n kinderen zijn; eerst gekleed in zachte kleding/verpakking? met een harde schil daarboven >And not content with this much care, nature has also given us these sharp and close-set spines, so that the hand of man cannot hurt us." En want zij niet zo tevreden was, de natuur heeft aan ons ook deze scherpe stekels gegeven, zodat menselijke handen ons niet pijn kunnen doen >Then the fig tree began to laugh, and after the laughter it said: Toen begon de vijgenboom te lachen, en na het lachen zei het: >"You know well that man is of such ingenuity that he will bereave even you of your children. Je weet toch dat mensen zo slim zijn dat ze zelf jij van je kinderen zal beroven >But in your case he will do it by means of rods and stones Maar in jouw geval zal ze dat met stenen en staven doen
Grayson Wood
deel twee: >and when they are felled he will trample them with their feet or hit them with stones, so that your offspring will emerge from their armor crushed and maimed; en wanneer ze zal fallen zal hij ze stampen en met stenen slaan, zodat je kinderen verplettered and verminkt van z'n schild zal opduiken (op zal duiken?) >while I am touched carefully by his hands, and never, like you, with roughness. terwijl hij mij met zijn handen voorzichtig ben behandelt, nooit als jij, met ruwheid
beetje psycho hé, die bomen
Levi Gray
Ai nevoie de ajutor? Ea îl face greșit El a făcut-o să opresc O să devină galben Nu înțeleg
Cred că trebuie să-l facem din nou Rezultatele astea sunt rele Dacă calitatea cafelei nu devine bună, o să încep să aduc fasole mele a cafelei
got to assume there's more language learning resource available in English than any other language, whereas there's relatively few language learning resources in Turkish?
William James
yup. not a single resource for learning swedish in turkish
John Walker
That sounds incredibly odd considering it's Sweden.
Luke Williams
Should I just make the joke about German now or what
you fuckers had better keep this alive until some lazyass nederbro can check and give me the appraisal I deserved for going through all that, goddammit
Christian Rogers
I love you in Russian : "yellow blue bus" (ya lyublyu vas)
Will brute force translating while reading a book help you learn the language? In terms of reading?
I know it's time consuming and horrible when you start but it must be the best way to actually read a language, right?
Also has anyone used lingualift?
Wyatt Walker
It'll help but you won't learn grammar much if at all
Dominic Perez
It will more like supplementary, ill be book learning too. I really want to get to the point where I have a general understanding of russian subtitles in movies.
Do you think it'll be a good replacement for say, memrise? ty btw
Justin Robinson
No because memrise drills vocab. The thing with Russian is since even nouns get conjugated you might have issues learning vocab just from hearing the words in real examples
Jaxon Murphy
Declension might be the better word rather than conjugate but still
Michael Carter
I've you're one of those English language purists that supports the whole anglish thing then is there a living language worth learning? Would a Scandi language or German maybe be applicable?
Ayden Roberts
So would a better translation of spoglio just be ‘bare’? This is the only time I think I’ve seen it
nigga, what did u literally means by the first question?
Xavier Wright
I'm trying to learn German so I can talk to some of my german friends easier. Anyone know some good websites?
Jack Morales
>韓 Korea >漢 China
Christopher Cooper
Dude just go and download the German learning pack from the torrent board. That's what you've got to start with but if you want basic vocabulary and grammar from your phone do duolingo first.
Henry Diaz
whats a torrent
Parker Hall
>someone learning Romanian wow
Jacob Rodriguez
I meanif you're trying to keep your pure anglo-saxon brain clean of pollutants like french and other latinate shit
Josiah Wright
already learning Spanish, friend
Mason Cruz
>t. discount Romania
Bentley Torres
Figure that out for yourself this is a language thread not a brainlet thread.
John Nguyen
>not a brainlet thread. Not him but that's arguable when half the posts are >I WANT TO LEARN X LANGUAGE FOR A QT WIFE WILL I BE FLUENT AFTER 20 MINUTES OF DUOLINGO?!?
Gavin Lopez
better be Castilian Spanish and not dirty beaner spanish
Logan Morales
Moldova must be a part of Romania
Parker Lewis
Well they probably know what's a torrent, I'm not here to provide tech support for a 12yo zoomer or 55 yo boomer who have never seen a torrent.
Asher Wood
Currently learning beaner Spanish since the podcast I'm going through uses it :)
saying that learning a language is entirely dependent on how much effort YOU put in it is such an obvious truism anyone presenting it as a world shattering revelation loses my attention instantly
so i am not even gonna deign that memecat video with a view
in my experience, when brute- translating a chapter of a book just with a dictionary in hand i made loads of mistakes simply because i was missing huge chunks of grammar
so you DO need to take a textbook and learn at least the basics
after that -- go ahead and do read complete Shakespeare
Nicholas Diaz
You're pretty much correct but I'm going to dismiss everything you said with >reddit spacing
Justin Bennett
I agree. The point of the video is that you need to be hands on with it and work through the problems you have with it.
Lincoln Kelly
How can I independently learn cantonese? I just know English and Spanish and reality want to learn cantonese to a conversational and literate level . I have no local resources though .
I wanna watch Hong Kong movies . Are their HK/Cantonese based imageboards and forums ?
>plucking ~= plekken (?) Plukken >emerge = opduiken te voorschijn komen >Een man die een beperkte vijgenboom had opgeklimd was de takken naar hem aan te buigen om rijp fruit te plekken, en vervolgens ze in z'n mond te knagen met zijn tanden. Een man die een bepaalde vijgenboom had op geklommen was de takken naar hem aan het buigen om rijp fruit te plukken, om deze daarna in zijn mond kapot te knagen. >Dit hebbende gezien, de kastanjeboom gooit (?) zijn lange takken en met veel geritsel roept: Dit hebbende gezien, de kastanjeboom gooit/ werpt zijn lange takken en met veel geritsel en roept: >Ag, Vijg! Wat minder beschermd door de natuur ben jij dan ik! Good >En want zij niet zo tevreden was, de natuur heeft aan ons ook deze scherpe stekels gegeven, zodat menselijke handen ons niet pijn kunnen doen En omdat zij nog niet tevreden met zoveel zorg heeft de natuur/ ze aan ons [...] >Toen begon de vijgenboom te lachen, en na het lachen zei het: Het/ hij. I think hij is more poetic. >Je weet toch dat mensen zo slim zijn dat ze zelf jij van je kinderen zal beroven Good. Toch is not neccesary. Maybe: Je weet goed/ dondersgoed (you should know better = you know well?) is more close. >Maar in jouw geval zal ze dat met stenen en staven doen Maar in jouw geval zullen ze dat met stenen en staven doen You went with mensen, plural
Zachary Powell
>en wanneer ze zal fallen zal hij ze stampen en met stenen slaan, zodat je kinderen verplettered and verminkt van z'n schild zal opduiken. En wanneer ze vallen zullen zij ze vertrappen/ stampen of ze met stenen slaan, zodat je kinderen verplettered and verminkt te voorschijn komen. >terwijl hij mij met zijn handen voorzichtig ben behandelt, nooit als jij, met ruwheid Terwijl zij mij met hun handen mij voorzichtig behandelen, en in tegenstelling tot jou nooit met ruwheid
Good stuff user. Sorry for being this late, I went straight to bed after posting my challange. Protocolletjes uitvoeren, labjournalen bijhouden. Deze drie dagen ben ik bezig met het eiwit fibronectine en de methoden voor het zuiveren/ testen ervan.
Robert Price
>Toch is not neccesary. I take this back. Perhaps it doesn't flow well poetically. It was used correctly.
Grayson White
I couldn't disagree more. I've only used textbooks and classes to learn one of the languages I speak, and it was much slower going than the others. Learning words because a book says you need to know them, or because you want to pass a test, is not a path to fluency. By the time you make it to the end of the million "the noun verbs the noun" fill-in-the-blank exercises, you've spent so much time studying in a useless fashion that you lose the will to just use the language on your own.
"Brute force translation" is certainly a difficult approach in the beginning, but in the long run it's fantastic. Get familiar with the grammar and pronunciation and go try to translate something short, like a paragraph of a news article that interests you. It's tough having to look up so many words you don't know, but you remember them because you actually need those words in order to succeed at what you chose to do, not because someone said "you need to know these 20 words for Friday's test".
Thomas Roberts
Scusa ma che ne so io sei tu l'inglese dovresti dirmelo tu cioè io che ne so se ha più senso dire "bare hill" o "naked hill" (secondo me non ha senso nessuno dei due casi)
> my teacher makes me memorize vocabulary lists and do tons of grammar exercises > classes r stooopid
> I make myself memorize vocabulary lists and do tons of grammar exercises > it's the new fantastic way of learning!!
Michael Rivera
The video actually agrees with you mate, it was actually quite insightful.
The guy basically says for example when you read a sentence you half understand, Later on down the line in your studies you might learn something to do with that sentence and then your mind puts 2 and 2 together and you finally understand the whole thing.
The guy in the video puts it more eloquently, definitely worth a watch
Jack Sanders
why canto? asian languages are hard bruh, if you just pick it up for anime/movies/comics you will get wiped out. anyway i *cough* acquired the pimsleur course for mandarin, and i know they have one for cantonese, you could check that out
another question i have, why the fuck are so many people learning korean?
Easton Myers
> agree > disagree
I am not arguing against idiotically simple statements like "you have to WORK to achieve result".
It is blindingly OBVIOUS.
OBVIOUSLY you you get as much as you put in. OBVIOUSLY you have to actually TRY. OBVIOUSLY you have to try different things.
Of course, you silly boys. Why does one need a meme on youtubez to realize this.
James Rogers
>realize Okay, The reddit spacing is one thing I can deal with but the yank spelling? You've crossed the bloody line
Jaxon Ortiz
simmer down, kazakhboi
Robert Brown
sorry, for being such a tryhard on a dedicated forum for people who want to learn a language
i guess i should just sit by a riverbank slobbering myself and wait until understanding and full mastery of Korean flows past me.
korean is relatively easy and there are a lot of movies and series in korean, enough to cause interest in learning more
