From a European perspective, how much of American culture would you say has African influence?

From a European perspective, how much of American culture would you say has African influence?

Can you give specific examples of how our culture is not European?

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i'd say that the african-american culture somewhat wants to be inspired by african culture, and that the african-american culture definitely inspires the popular U.S. culture. i can't give a specific example, since it doesn't seem like the two can ever really go hand in hand, so the original idea gets twisted through a modern, 100% american filter.
but then again, i don't really know shit

and your culture is not european, because you aren't europeans.
it also seems like you're fighting pretty hard to impose your own national identity on yourself, with a decent amount of success.

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More like jewi8sh influence. The black popculture stuff isn't moderated and deformed by blacks themselves. Ask yourself where the word twerk even came from.

>and your culture is not european, because you aren't europeans.

soil has culture now, nice retardation you got going there

American culture is just jewish profanity, some of it.

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Arabs score lower than mulattos in academic ability.

>Can you give specific examples of how our culture is not European?
Where to begin.
>bragging and showing off is a trait of poor countries
>individualism instead of collectivism (in decision making, taking credit, institutions in society, such as health care)
>laws that deal in absolutes, while in Europe everything is relative and context based
>taking risks
>multiculturalism doesn't work here
>Racism. Europe is white, so races weren't really a thing here. You fought other nations.
>drawing attention to yourself is a bad thing here
>SJW's telling other people what to do is considered an American cancer here
>American music is very, very foreign if you compare it with our music

Things that Dutch people can identify with
>freedom and capitalism
>snacks and cookies
We basically invented it.

When it comes to African influence I think Africans are very good at entertainment in America. Perhaps also the obsession with money and sex, which is part of the image portrayed by entertainers.
The racial conflicts in America also caused the cancerous identity politics you have today.

American culture is pretty much African culture. Jazz, rock'n'roll, hip hop, r'n'b, blues, etc. There are some posh WASP authors whom nobody reads, but that's pretty much it.

Americans are also very polite compared to Europeans. Not sure why. And have a very childish humor.

wew thanks you're right, there's no such thing as american culture. it's all european.
no wait as a matter of fact, there's no such thing as culture

>it also seems like you're fighting pretty hard to impose your own national identity on yourself, with a decent amount of success.
wtf does that mean

Do Europeans also find poop and pee jokes as well as old people getting hit by a car as funny as americans? I always hated that people here laugh at shit like "Mall Cop"

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>bragging and showing off
>drawing attention to yourself

I can think of several European cunts where this is more of a thing than in America. European culture isn’t monolithic; just compare Italians with Norwegians.

All you mentioned is music. Culture is much more than just music.

There isn’t a nation on earth where someone farting while speaking publicly won’t get at least a few laughs.

The sheer delusion in this post.

Yeah, but our comedies overplay it way too much, and make it all gross.

Most modern african american culture was made up by jewish record porducers in the 90s

It's true that there are at times differences in values between the new world and the old world, however America is undeniably a European offshoot. Its institutions are European, its political system is European, its language is European, its economy is European and its people are mostly European. Apart from some minor African influences when it comes to popular music, even the subset population that don't have any or little European heritage are completely assimilated within its mainstream culture.

This mixed with the features of the race jews use for their propaganda

I think his idea was about how colonial nations struggled with structuring an identity after years of migration wave since orignes become more and more blurry. So since people couldnt always find commonality via heritage, they started gathering via looks as to try and create unity. So they developped this idea of white/europeans for themselves as a blanket term to create a bond among the population. Thus the "impose your own national identity on yourself".
I may be wrong but thats how I interpret it.

w o r d .
national identity as opposed to cultural identity.
but in these cases the lines become, as you said, too blurry, so i believe it has to become one and the same.

For youth culture, its honestly 70% non-European.

You're Brazil in 30 years.

Our humor is a bit different. Dutch people have a special fondness for stereotypes. Almost all humor is based around stereotypes.

multiculturalism doesn't work in the US either, its the reason their society is so much more fragmented now compared to 60years ago

>looks do not determine identity
I suppose you know a dog from a cat not by looks.

Any other system.is arbituary and can be molded anyway because it is non true.

Why have a union state based on language or "culture" why not on a provincial patriotic nationalistic basis.

In a few years of closed doors you can develop your language by education to be unintellible to other people, a different culture in a few years etc..

Never said it didnt, my entire post was about how you created the basis of an entire identity on looks. But thanks for reading what you want to read.

Hebrew was invented in a few years, israeli state as well, israeli culture and nationality as well.

>, its the reason their society is so much more fragmented now compared to 60years ago

It was extremely way more fragmented back then you dumb potato.

Ok im not following you, what was your initial point ?

There is nothing "wrong" about white culture and identity of white americans.

>Do Europeans also find poop and pee jokes as well as old people getting hit by a car as funny as americans?
Only Germans. We laugh just about everything, at least sometimes.

Convert hi to ihi eye he
Bye to brouh Brewuh
And so forth new language.

Ok ? The post was about the societal reasoning as to why white identity came to be. You're the one thinking I used charged terms as to demean it when its quite a neutral description. Your bone to pick is with the Dane if thats your opinion.

How did french identity come to be?

That's another american thing:
They get upset over terms and are in general heavily emotions based.

Depends at which start point you want to choose as the clear initial steps towards it. Id personally say the invasion of Gaul by the Romans, but some might consider it way to early to consider this the start and would put it way later down the line. Maybe a more relevant start point would be a language point with the Ordonnance of Villers-Cotterêts or a political one with the French revolution but i think the last one is too late. But you're comparing an old world nation with a new world one, its kinda meaningless since the way population worked for the latter makes it impossible to equate

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For us the language was/is the most important indicator.
A "German" identity came very late. Our Regional Identities on the other hand are often based on Germanic tribes (Bavarians, Saxonians, Franks, Allemanians, Palatinians, Swabians and many more) that base older than history knows them (over 2k years).
The Tribal genetics are long gone but the Countries (or duchies) formed by the tribes here became significant parts of Identity (Bavaria is very important for Bavarians they can't just be Bavarians suffeciently somewhere else) this is a development like 1000 years old.
The strengh of France as a modern Nationstate with French Identity unifing all French people was the starter for us to form a German identity (like 250 years ago). What counted as German and what not was based on the mothertongue in the first place. Even then wars were needed since not all Germans really liked the idea of being German (Southern Germans + Austrians).

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I think the genuine African element are overstated and rather a lot of ignorant aspects in our culture comes from backwater European cultures
look at how white provincial and lower class urban Brits act and point out how different it is to niggers and poor people here

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Euros were calling us niggers for listening to Jazz music back in the 20s.

Opposite you mong, Paris became the city of Jazz in the 1920s because most Jazz musicians wouldnt be allowed to play without a lot of trouble in the US

It's literally what Nazis and Evola were saying though. They said it was evidence were negrofied mentally and culturally.

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"african" Americans have nothing to with real africans

Then dont use "Euros" as a singular thing, there clearly were massive differences between the countries, and apparently a lot was also wrong in the US for so many musicians to rather travel to a foreign country to play.

There were plenty of French white supremacists back then too. A lot of them collaborated with the Nazis.

Nazis weren't "white supremacists" brainlet.

They were. It was just a lot more nuanced than people nowadays understand as white supremacy. They believed in the superiority of European peoples. With Nordics (Germans being part of that in their beliefs) being on the top of the racial hierarchy.

Slavs and Anglos are white, yet they were seen as subhuman.
Nazis here were in the first place about Germanic supremacy.
"White" as a discription of people is until today near to non existent here and those parts that entered our culture are modern shit from the US.

The Nazis got the word "untermensch" from an American KKK member.
Leon Degrelle uses the term white race in this video at 30 seconds: youtube.com/watch?v=a_Re-XKnBW8
Anglos weren't considered subhuman, they were Germanic cousins and Hitler admired the British Empire.

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Americans and Anglos where always used as an example how the Germanic race can degenerate through inbreeding and leaving it's native ground.

Better read properly on the "Blut und Boden" ideology before trying to educate me on my Nation.

Yet all I wrote there was true. They considered Anglos as lower on the racial ladder to them, but still descendants of Aryans.

No they were subhumans.
Just like you.
It isn't about being white. It is about being Germanic in the native lands of the Germanics that is central Europe.

Anglos weren't considered racially beneath them, but culturally as a result of their differences to Germanics on the continent.

It was about the Mythical Aryan race being from the North of Europe and Germans and Nordics being the closest descendants of them. You don't have to get all asshurt because I'm right. Like I care what some cowardly German thinks. A nation of men who can't even protect their women and children.

>Can you give specific examples of how our culture is not European?

there's a fucking ocean between europe and america, dumbtard.

Amerifats speak only one language, niggerish, Europe has tens or maybe hundreds of languages and cultures.

Europe is a progressive society based on enlightenment ideals and anchored in tradition.
America is a failed society based on greed and narcissism all hidden behind money.

no anglos were subhumans.
They never ever been seen as equals in any form.
If they weren't to live on their Island the slav future would have awaited them.

What you think is how the Nazis viewd France.
France was seen as racially equal to us but culturally beneath. That's why in general German Soldiers were adwised to treach the French respectful. And didn't cause much damage in France in comparison to eastern Europe.

Yes the Aryan race was the original Master Race that created all civilizations (Varg style) and Germanics are there closest relatives. Funny projects were done to rebreed that race from germans and scandis producing some artificial babies without real parents. (there is a documentary on it but i forgot its name).

Your point was that Nazis were about white people and you were wrong.

>A nation of men who can't even protect their women and children.
Except that out women enjoy a by a immense amount higher safety than in your shithole. No need for this hypocracy.

>american culture

It was fragmented into different pockets but those pockets were solid. Now the pockets are fragmented and the monoculture is more solid.

>Yes the Aryan race was the original Master Race that created all civilizations (Varg style) and Germanics are there closest relatives. Funny projects were done to rebreed that race from germans and scandis producing some artificial babies without real parents. (there is a documentary on it but i forgot its name).
Yeah and they also conveniently grabbed any slav who looked "Aryan" enough and said they must be the descendants of Germanic settlers and gave them to German families to raise.
>Except that out women enjoy a by a immense amount higher safety than in your shithole. No need for this hypocracy.
So many women were raped on New Years eve your government tried to cover it up and told the police to lie about it.

In Russia hypbeastfags rule. Every Russian girl I've ever met owns a pair of the newest yeezys

Right up until the late 1930s Britian was considered Aryan and propaganda as well as official party policy all praised and sought to emulate Britain.
Afterwards they were still considered Aryan but culturally jew'd. The Hitler Youth was based on the British boy scouts and every German student had Englandkunde. What books are you reading? Post 1940 anti-British propaganda?

>So many women were raped on New Years eve
Sexually harrased. Not raped.
And it's like 3 years ago.


Count your nigger murders and rapes before talking shit faggot.

Your just butthurt that your dady Hitler considered you a subhuman.

It was like this for a very short amount of time when there was a chance to ally them. Before and after they returned to their status of Island monkeys here.

Nazis were some opportunistic bitches.

>Your just butthurt that your dady Hitler considered you a subhuman.
Are you just retarded or something? I didn't even mention what I believed in or supported. I was just read up the thread again you autist.

>Englandkunde
>for all Hitler youth
Some learned foreign languages. Including Russian, French and English.

Yes they were supremacists but not dumb people.

>Englandkunde
Can't find a single German source on that word.

All I want is to live in a hut and have some swede cucks raid my village few times in a year so I can take them out and burn their ships, is this really too much to ask?

Here I contradict you by saying "Nazis weren't "white supremacists" brainlet."
Note "brainlet" that describes you prefectly.

Here you state "They were"

They weren't and you are now some bitch ass little brainlet toddler.
Go back to your favourite commy Trumo and suck his peewee little boy.

The banjo hip hop rthyms etc

>how much of American culture would you say has African influence?
most of the music does

>hip hop rapping comes from Jamaican toasting which comes from african groits

Blues comes from the african banjo and folk music which comes from work songs which comes from african folk songs

The USA doesn't have a culture. Some individual regions do. Most of it doesn't.

American = Wigger

We think that American culture is more jewish than black.
You even chop the dicks of poor indefenced kids.