Can we agree that 9/11 was the single most successful attack in modern history? Al'Queda made a plan...

Can we agree that 9/11 was the single most successful attack in modern history? Al'Queda made a plan, executed it perfectly, at little cost to themselves, and kickstarted the downfall of western civilization. Never has such a small loss of life rocked the world as much as 9/11 did.

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Yes

>ywn be in new york in 9/11, but at a safe distance through the whole attack
feels bad man

Ok I guess.

We still got to dump Osama's corpse in the ocean and destabilize the Middle East further causing innumerable Arab & Persian deaths so it's ok.

in 50-75 years all the context will be stripped from 9-11 and it will just be remembered as "really badass"

>the point was to bait yanks into a costly war and destroy their economy
And they fell for it hook line and sinker

To be fair, neocons are way better at destroying American than terrorists.

The terrorists just accelerated the job already being done by the neocons.

Meanwhile they forever ruined your culture and made you a bunch of paranoid cunts that are willing to sell off your freedoms for "security".

Look at how burgers reacted to Columbine in 1999 and OKC in 1995.

I think you'll find that Americans have gradually become more scared and more stupid since the development of television, and especially cable television in the 1980s.

RIP in peaces sweet prince

>implying it was Al'queda and not the CIA-Mossad-Saudis
>implying they kick started the fall of the West

When does usa use nukes?

We get shit on every single day on Jow Forums for being unwilling to give up our freedoms for security.

But americans profit from war too

That was only for you, Japan.

You mean guns? Guns are one and the same, freedom AND security, friendo.

They're trying to take away our handguns up here fucking JUSTin Turdo

>be GOP
>don't want to give up guns, but absolutely fine with PRISM, black sites and waterboarding as long as the government pinky swears it will only use it against brown people

>be Democrats
>claim to oppose the growth of the security state but don't actually do anything to stop it when you get elected
>try to take away all the guns over mass shootings, which are even more uncommon and less consequential than terrorist attacks

Mass gun ownership is not for security because it clearly makes your country less safe

racist

>try to take away all the guns
Fucking hell why are Americans SO retarded. I bet you're one of those seppos who think guns are banned here

>Aussie education

Mass gun ownership is the freedom we won’t give up. The security would be a nation with much fewer guns.

Mexico has extremely restrictive gun laws and they have four times as many homicides per capita.

America has all the same issues that make Mexico so violent

>drug related organized crime
>weak/corrupt municipal governments in specific areas with high crime
>diversity
>extreme wealth inequality
>widespread desperation and poverty within specific communities

You'll find the same issues in Brazil, Russia, and pretty much every country in Latin America. If guns are even a factor at all, it's an absolutely tiny one compared to the much larger social issues at hand.

Go watch The Wire if you want to get a good idea of why America has high homicide rates.

>destabilize the Middle East
>force refugees to escape to western countries which now have to deal with them
>change nothing because one dead civilian killed by Americans creates 10 more terrorists
>give Islam a victim-hood complex so liberals will blindly embrace them with open arms
>spend trillions of dollars wasting your time in the sand when your own infrastructure and social security is falling apart
Good job USA

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Are Amerifats ever gonna move on? It's been almost 2 decades and they're still milking this shit.

Not just guns. Health care is a freedom/security issue too.

>turn in 90-95% of all privately held guns
>can no longer own guns "because I want to shoot burglars"
>can no longer carry a handgun to protect yourself if you live in the ghetto

It's like one of those dogs that gets its real testicles removed, but the owner feels bad, so they put in synthetic fake testicles to help the dog's self esteem.

All of the function is gone, but at least you can pretend to have your dignity.

Consider the following.

The War in Afghanistan started about a week after 9/11, and it's still ongoing.

So in a very real sense, we haven't actually fixed any of the problems that led to 9/11, and pretty much our entire War on Terror has been an abysmal failure.

That is to say, we'll get over it when we actually fix the problem. If Pearl Harbor happened and we still hadn't pacified Japan 17 years later there would be a lot of angst from that too.

>literally the objective

We were protecting our oil bucks, bro. All that other shit was pretext.

Health care wouldn't work in the USA because everyone fucking hates each other down there and aren't willing to pay for the well-being of groups they dislike.

What's wrong with good ol' Alberta oil?

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America can live off of Canadian oil, but Japan, China and Western Europe can't.

Iraq was more to secure oil for our Eurasian trading partners and prevent an economic contagion than it was to secure oil for the US.

There’s also a lot of people that don’t want the evil government interfering with their doctors.

It’s not ours.