Will Syria ever recover? No meme replies pls

Will Syria ever recover? No meme replies pls

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No. Lebanon is still fucked decades later and their civil war wasn't anywhere near as bad.

It will recover as an israeli puppet

The Sunni will probably never accept a Shia government again, and the Shia will probably never accept a Sunni government.

The only solution is extreme decentralization.

no
infrastructure is beyond repair in some places, back breaking sanctions will stay in place until Assad dies, ethnic tensions will be at an all time high and people will hold grudges over the war

They're already an Iranian puppet though.

Not any time in the next 30-40 years.

>infrastructure in ruins
>1/3rd of the population is dead, crippled, or emigrated
>Assad will remain forever a pariah that nobody except Russia and Iran will have anything to do with
>the country doesn't have any oil or other significant natural resources to build an economy off of

Shias their own shia state sunnis state, alawite state and christian state.

yes, Assad will succeed.
you can't stop socialism.

Realistically, it'll have to be like Switzerland with most of the policy decisions made at a canton level.

If they actually partition Syria, then that will just create a fresh round of bloodletting over who gets what land.

US invasion anytime now, so no.

It was perfectly fine till the west sticked it's hooknose to support jihadi rebels.

Go to bed Latuff.

Will Syria ever be free? It seemed like there was a brief glimpse of hope in 2012, however the West’s refusal to move against Assad allowed him to consolidate power and ultimately led to the demise of the FSA and the hijacking of the revolution by Islamist groups. Existing ethnic and sectarian divides have now been permanently entrenched, and all hopes for a free, democratic, and secular Syria have been destroyed for decades to come.

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Why is it always third worlders spouting this schizo gibberish? Is it the toxins in your water supply making your retarded?

>and all hopes for a free, democratic, and secular Syria have been destroyed for decades to come.
mashallah

*you

I frequently wonder what would have happened if Obama had given into the pressure to bomb in 2013.

>tfw it's ending
>tfw I never got to fight for the YPG
At least they'll have a Communlist Syria, r-right?

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Syria is one of the few times our intervention might have actually helped. The “strongman needed to keep everything in order” argument doesn’t work because Assad lost control of the country and now relies on the Russians and Iranians, as well the SAA, aka whatever local militias he’s managed to pay off. Furthermore, Syria under Assad will never recover. Russia does not have the capital nor the will to fund reconstruction, seeking only to maintain their naval base. Iran has quite literally wrecked its own economy to save Assad, causing unrest at home. And the West won’t give a single penny as long as Assad remains.

>muh shias le sunnis
Go to bed Fox news tier geopolitics pundit.

What schizo shit you fuckwit, western business want to take the Syrian government and have Trump by the balls.

ISIS is still a threat. They're just gone back to hiding in the desert and using sneak attacks.

There's no hope of recovery for a long, long time. You and me will probably be retirement age by the time it happens.

who gives a shit about sandnigger durkas

How dare you speak to me, you third world shit stain.

He should’ve done it much earlier. By the time of the East Ghouta attack, the FSA had already collapsed and was being replaced by increasingly Islamic groups. I suppose the war would’ve at least been over sooner, though.

But then less syrians would have died. I want the war to continue forever.

Yeah, but not much of the one they were earlier. Fuck jih*dist

turkish republic of northern syria

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I love those videos where they set up fake checkpoints and hose down whatever idiot drives up.

AQI was basically defeated in 2011, but then once the Americans left, Al Maliki and the other morons in Baghdad let AQI evolve into IS and then come back.

It's an open question whether Shiite insurrections will just become a thing that happens every ten years. Especially given that the governments in Damascus and Baghdad are loathed by their Sunni populations.

*whether Sunni insurrections

>How dare you
I'm used to talk to garbage like you, I don't really need to hesitate.

Weren’t the Taliban close to being exterminated before the 2003 war diverted troops from Afghanistan?

Yeah.

That and the extreme weakness of the Kabul government, combined with the ISI supporting the Taliban.

You have a long history of "helping"
Thanks for helping islamists against secular government in Afghanistan.
Thanks for destroying secular government in Iraq and replacing it with isis.
Thanks for helping remove secular government in Libya and replace it with local warlords.
I'm sure you would've helped much in Syria too. But thanks, no thanks.

At this point are all Syrian rebels Islamist? Is there any group that's secularist or at least nationalist?

American pigs ruined Syria, just like they ruined Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia. Another country victim of the American bloodshed.

There’s the SDF, but they just want autonomy for their region, not to overthrow Assad.

When they knock your door to accept refugees, it'll be too late by then.

you're next monkey

There were also a few rebel pockets in the south near the birder with Israel, collectively called the Southern Front. They were the last democratic opposition to Assad before being defeated last month.

>R*ussian daring to speak about Afghanistan

In the 1960s, Afghanistan was literally so peaceful that hippies would backpack through the country after they were done with India.

The USSR overthrew their government and replaced with communists,and then invaded when the people rebelled against the communists.

Communists literally turned Afghanistan from hippie backpacking destination to Mad Max.

this

malays love refugees cause arabs take your women and you love that

>flag

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????
Really ?

yes

Sure, but not under ass*d leadership.

yellow isis will get genocided too you're free to join and die mutt

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Based
KURRRRRRRRWWWWWWAAAAAAAA

Points 1 and 4 was South Korea 40 years ago

Like really?

yes
you'd sell your sister to an arab if you could

It will be perfectly fine as long as they have a strong suppressive man that doesnt get overthrown, but regimes can change even without american intervention

Trump should just assassinate Assad and turn the whole country into glass. problem solved

I should've never worried about you, ungrateful cunt. You will wish you'd take back that word in your butthole. Baka. I'm out

It's the opposite. We're the one who steals their wymen. Arab male refugee are poor and Malay male seeks this oppurtunity to impregnate Arab wymen. I've seen some Malay who marries arab wymen. Feelsgoodman.

America is not powerful enough to do that

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why not. we already did it in Iraq. what's so special about Syria

>orthodox brother rightfully is talking about the present
>american probably high school student talking about the 60s
>american talking about afghanistan
is this bait

SK was babied extremely hard.

You would though.

Imlying the man they overthrew wasn't allready communist. He even called Moscow for help as they stormed palace

Those fatbrains...

hopefully so all these nice people can go back

Status quo is a distant fantasy at this point. Let's just forget about the 500,000+ deaths for a moment as well as the general breakdown of law and order as the SAA was basically destroyed throughout most of the country (100,000+ dead) and local nominally pro-government militias both foreign and domestic took its place. The World Bank estimated in 2016 that it would take $180+ billion to get Syria back to 2010 levels of GDP per capita- when it was already poorer than most of Sub-Saharan Africa and a complete economic basket case with the lowest growth rate in the region.
worldbank.org/en/country/syria/publication/economic-outlook-spring-2016
worldbank.org/en/country/syria/publication/the-toll-of-war-the-economic-and-social-consequences-of-the-conflict-in-syria
Syria lost some 30% of its housing in the conflict too. On top of that, while ISIL and Al-Nusra have mostly been bombed or shot out of existence, discontent with the government has not ceased and there are tens of thousands of rebels from a hundred armed groups still in the country, meaning insurgency and sporadic fighting over at least the next few years on a level that makes Iraq look tame. On top of that, 1/4 of the population including a disproportionate number of educated folks (basically those with enough money to move) have outright left the country and it's unknown how many will be coming back, further contributing to the degradation of Syria's human capital alongside whatever disruptions to education have been caused by 8 years of war.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Federation_of_Northern_Syria#General_development_assessments
And that's not even getting into what will happen with Rojava and Turkey; the regions occupied by those two factions accounted for 55% of Syrian GDP pre-war due to all the oil there, yet currently it's not clear what will become of them.

I don't see how Syria is ever going to recover from this.

maşAllah are you red pilled slav or türk?

only through foreign intervention
with russia being their current benefactor,
they will never recover

This is why China is Syria only hope.

sure, it's gonna take a long time though.

retard tier posts, leave this thread unironically

Nice secular government based on an alawite ruling class that can only survive through a proto orwellian surveillance state

Alawites are autocratic, but they are the only fags keeping the minorities from getting genocided and also having them somewhat politically represented(out of the alawites own interests as a minority themselves, yes, but still)

>all these bizzare american posts

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t. Hillary Clinton

rofl

Why would china ever put their money in a place like Syria. The little natural resources it has is now controlled by America via the turds. Also even before the civil war started it was one of the poorest countries in world and had a economic development rate at the level of yemen. b-b-b-b-based Assad is a thief that has ruled his country like a mafia.

>are the only fags keeping the minorities from getting genocided

God thats such a stupid fucking comment i would expect out of boomer facebook.

600,000 of the majority population have been killed. 5 million of them are refugees with their homes been given to iranian militias. Systematic rape campaigns being done on the majority population by a minority. We're watching the ethnic cleansing of a fucking majority. WHEN HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THAT IN YOUR LIFE. All b-b-b-based Assad had to do was make a few consession during the original uprising. But he responded by slaughtering kids doing grafitti. Thats a little above "autocratic" dont you think.

All this and you are outraged over the 5% of the country that barely got affected by the civil war.

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South Korea is also a 99% homogenous country where the average person has an IQ above 100. Not at all comparable

He kept his own people, christians and the druze from getting genocided but this form of ethnic government proved to be problematic the moment the rather poor Sunnis revolted. If he had managed to properly integrate all of Syria's population into the political process there wouldn't have been so much ethnic/religious tension in the first place. The civil war didn't come out of nowhere.

>bwahhh Assad personally killed children doing vandalism
Shit was boiling with jihadi agitators from the likes of Al Qaeda to later worse.

>hasnt heard of shabiha
>doesnt realize that Assad has worked close with Al Qaeda on many occasions in the past 20 years
>thinks there was no cause for people to protest the government other then the jihad boogeyman

please. I know south americans have a hard on for anything that they think resembles anti-imperialism. But pay close attention to whose committing the ethnic cleansing and war crimes.

The jihadi agitators he released from prison during the early weeks of the war?

I find it funny how America keeps fucking with Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, and Egypt, the only countries in that part of the world with a sizeable Christian minority

>Why would china ever put their money in a place like Syria. The little natural resources it has is now controlled by America via the turds. Also even before the civil war started it was one of the poorest countries in world and had a economic development rate at the level of yemen. b-b-b-b-based Assad is a thief that has ruled his country like a mafia.
But I watched a documentary on the BBC about Syria and everyone seemed happy. They were showing the different types of ice cream you could buy in Damascus on holiday, then went and met some bedouin in the desert who were really friendly.

Well i guess everything is peachy then.

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Would rather live there than Africa tbf

I'll take botswana, tunisia, ethiopia over syria every day of the week.

anything for our sweetie pie Israel

>only countries in that part of the world with a sizeable Christian minority

curious as to why this matters in the grand scheme of things. Are you really autisitc enough to think that Christianity had any part to do with Russias support for Syria, or any move it makes.

You do realize that in the early part of the civil war, when the rebels were gaining ground rapidly, Russia was negotiating the Mediterranean port with the rebels.

More like Saudis.
Those faggots are the cancer eating the Middle East(well, that, and Turkey's we wuzzery, but those fags are mostly annoying), and are much worse when it comes to human rights.

Not that Russia didn't leave certain christian groups out to dry, at times.

The cause for protest was islamic and western backed coups of the Arab Spring, a simple power grab attempt.

And nothing of positive from media after trying to be compromisse with them.

No they won't and the Middle-East as a whole is facing a really grim future with Iraq and Syria in ruins and Israel stirring up shit with Lebanon + the most pro-Jewish US president so far in power.

ridiculously low iq take. Alex Jones tier. Actually read about the conflict. And not from some twitter accounts of some hysterical syrian bimbo living in the diaspora.

I find it funny how you can't discuss Assad without someone bringing up America. The country with the least influence out of all the powers involved. I guess Assad can only work as a saint as long as you follow the 'based underdog Assad fighting western jihadists' narrative, since he doesn't have any qualities besides that. He has chosen his enemies wisely since they are the only argument for him and he knew that

of course not. it's just really weird to see all of these Christians in America cheering on the destruction of Christian communities in the Middle East. I'm a Texan btw.

It's going to rely on foreign aid for a couple of decades before it can actually recover. And that foreign aid is probably going to come from USA.

>I'm a Texan btw.
And the flag?

>low iq alex jones twitter syrian girl
Not even a take, just name flinging.

well, if America had stopped bombing Syria and funding Jihadists, then Syria would be at peace by now. doesn't mean I think Assad is a saint. just better than the alternative because I'm not a fucking Jihadist. I don't think the US government is run by Jihadists or even Muslim-lovers either, but they are evil. Yuri Bezmenov was right.


I live in Russia. thinking about getting a VPN or something because it gets really tiring to post in here and people start crying about waaaah Russia this Russia that, when I haven't even said a word about Russia.

Hopefully not.

>going to come from USA
not with Assad still around.

Even if he was gone i doubt america would. The only people that would give foreign aid is the gulf.

>The cause for protest was islamic and western backed coups of the Arab Spring, a simple power grab attempt.
How else do i respond to baseless conspiracy theories with no grounding in reality.

You completely ignore the history of the Assad family. Economic situation of Syria. The concentration of power in a tiny minority. etc

America bombed ISIS, I doubt that Syria would be at peace without their defeat and the only weapon funding for rebels by the US that I'm aware of are TWO's for some irrelevant moderate factions. A CIA training program failed because most rebels didn't want to cooperate with the US so I doubt that they had that much influence on the rise of the jihadists. You can make an argument that they backed jihadists indirectly through their partners Turkey, SA and Qatar.
The US seemed clueless in their Syria policy without any clear strategy except reacting to the given circumstances. AT least they have some influence on the kurds now but that partnership is fragile.