Angola

What happens here?

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angola is russia of africa, except more developed

Explain?

they have oil and its a shithole with niggers, but russia stayed in the past (we are now basically a big belarus) and angola is now rich and nice

>angola is now rich and nice
How is it nice? What's it like there? That's actually kind of what prompted me to make this thread. Saw yesterday that their GDP growth is through the roof the last decade or two.

>How is it nice?

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>Saw yesterday that their GDP growth is through the roof the last decade or two.

You'd be surprised if you saw how high GDP per capita of Equatorial Guinea is then.

What are they doing there? Doesn't EG supposedly have the lowest IQ of any country at like 58 or something?

Wow that's pretty comfy. Nicer looking than Florida beach cities for sure.

They got into a bloody civil war because of South African kikes right? I heard they're doing better now

You don't need high IQ if you have a lot of oil, like Equatorial Guinea, Angola or Arab countries.

prime farmland with landmines, also diamond and assorted mining operations.

it used to be one of the most promissing regions of africa, but the civil war anihilated a fuckton of infrastructure and they had to start from scratch

EG is a dictatorship ruled by an extremely wealthy family. They basically get all the oil money and opress the population in the most generic movie villain way.

Angola is similar

Post a cooler flag, you can't.

Why did Portuguese people never really invest in Angola, but focused on Mozambique instead? Wasn't it better to put all investments in a place rich in oil?

Mozambique has a cooler flag.

Any rich undeveloped country is more or less like that. Some more obvious than others. If they weren't they would become developed with lower crimes and better living conditions.

estado novo invested a fuckton in angola (but not as much as they did with mozambique).
IIRC, oil was discovered around 1950 and setting up extraction didn't require much investment since the region (kabinda) was already fairly developed.
There was a railway from luanda to nova lisboa (Huambo) and some few other places, there were also plans to further expand it to cover most of the key production areas (huambo is right in the super fertile planalto region of angola).

While both angola and mozambique had oil reserves and regions with very good soil for intensive agriculture, Mozambique offered much better geography for goods transport, meaning investment would get higher returns and sooner too.

islam got banished

What do Portuguese people think of decolonization now? Do you think it was a failure and a treason of post-Salazar politicians? Do you think the war should be continued?

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Just imagine that according to the multiracial policy of the Portuguese state this man was considered an ethnic Portuguese.

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No one thinks this way pretty much. Everybody acknowledges angolans, mozambicans and etc right to self-determination. Portuguese gov was dumb dragging that all up.

Ethnic Portuguese no. But he would be considered Portuguese yes. It's just how the Portuguese Empire worked, if you spoke Portuguese (and were Christian), you're "Portuguese".

isn't that a severely overpriced city and most of the country is shit?

>It's just how the Portuguese Empire worked, if you spoke Portuguese (and were Christian), you're "Portuguese".

Stupid Brazilians, they lost a chance to be Portuguese.

I think it's more or less the same as back then: a bunch of thieves stole the coffers in broad daylight, while mocking the onlookers for being stupid.
Mario Soares pillaged our own coffers, Agostinho Neto took care of angola, etc..

As for the people, nowadays we recognize their diferent identity while back then it was far more spiteful (retornados, which came in all colours of skin were very much mistreated). Since we went jus sangui after getting rid of the colonies, things became far more defined and relations normalized (but some retornados still lived up to 20 years without being citizens of any country)

ups and downs, Luanda is cheap for property and labor, but expensive for everything else (foreign imports are very expensive, and almost everything is imported). But, since the kwanza is on the shitter, things are solid for foreigners (so long you know how to circumvent some rules).

Based, just like ancient rome

They are in denial.

What's your policy towards immigrants from your former colonies? Can Angolans or Brazilians move and settle down in Portugal?

Nope, we went jus sangui like the other tuga said. It's hard for them to get citizenship.

Wouldn't you give citizenship to him?

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His family is probably richer than all of Portugal combined.

they have almost guaranteed aceptance, and can get portuguese nationality in record time (less than 2 years of residence, the normal is 5 + other shit).

in practice it means they can move here so long they have the money to (this actualy gave problems in the past, since there were brazileans comming here absolutely broke, and had to beg for a plane back to brazil).

not anymore, for the last 10 years we have been "opening" the border for them. I believe the current system is 2 years of residence, before that it was 3 years + nationality test (which completely fucked them sideways).

Oh, thanks for clarifying, didn't know that.

How common is it for Portuguese people to move to Brazil or Angola for jobs? Since Portugal is in crisis, this might be an option for some Portuguese people

it used to be more common than it is now. That being said, a lot of people went to angola/moz/brazil in 2008-2013 period (the peak of the crisis), but I think more people went to england, france, BeNeLux, switzerland and germany (the majority was highly educated, and for those, european migration is both cheaper and safer).

Luanda is rich but the country has a lot of poverty.