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Does the negative ず conjugation necessarily need to be placed in a sequence of events?
As far as I know, no. ず is just a more formal negation (almost exclusively literary use or in expressions?)
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Huh, the gook is telling me that it acts as a more formal version of the verb conjuctive + conjuctive form of ない (帰ってないで for example) that can serve to say that one action wasn't done in a sequence of events.
After a a bit more research, I think it's less of a "not" and more of a "without", that is if the lyrics to military marches are to be trusted :
"雪の進軍 氷を踏んで
何處どこが河やら 道さへ知しれず"
I guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow until the japanons wake up tomorrow to get my answer.
>until tomorrow until the japanons wake up tomorrow
And it seems I'd do well with a bit a sleep myself.
watched anime with two friends with......dubs
forgive me dekinai-chan
Just wondering, are you guys using Anki 2.0 or 2.1?
Some of the add-ons I use are not available on 2.1 so I'm wondering if it's worth switching or not (mainly AwesomeTTS and Kanji Colorizer).
Also, if you happen to know of any Stroke Order add-on for 2.1, please let me know.
0/10 add that it was from a youtube reaction channel and that he was in turn streaming the show from crunchyroll
>Just realized I was learning Japanese using the Han Unification kanji instead of the Japanese kanji
How badly did I fuck up? Just switched over to the Japanese kanji and it's all very similar. Seems like this wasn't a huge problem, but definitely something I want to get right going forward.
no, we watched Harmony (downloaded from wherever) and Your Name (Blu-Ray) with german dub... the latter was shown in some theaters here and there so the dub was at least as good as dubs gonna get
he would have been cool with watching in original language, but she insisted on "not wanting to read"
how does that even happen
Did most of my studying on mobile, which is all fucked up with japanese unless you have a japanese phone. Even the fonts are a pain in the ass to get right. It's all good though, I'm not really having any trouble going through my flash cards, since most of the time for reading we are going off the shape of the kanji (actually its the same with english too, we use the shape of the words and letters more than the content, hence why we don't have trouble reading different fonts)
bamp
just buy KKLC
>Did most of my studying on mobile
quite harsh user, but true I deserve this one
just switch to Chinese now.
So third day of book club. How are you guys handling the first chapter?
What sort of high quality content that didn't get brought over to the west did you find, anons?
I recently discovered Kami Sama no Iru Keshiki (pic related) which is literally Aria but better (and I don't say this lightly) and the works of Abe Tomomi, like Chii-chan wa Chotto Tarinai and Getsuyoubi no Tomodachi, that are really just fucking great manga.
>Kami Sama no Iru Keshiki
Looks cool, where did you hear about it?
今日は、「iTalki」で私は日本語を話しだ。
難しだ、でも、私の日本語をレベルアップだよ!
On this 5ch thread medaka.5ch.net
『かみさまのいる景色
ARIAっぽいファンタジーで癒された
百合成分もちょっとある
背景がめっちゃきれい 』
It's really hard to find good recommendations on 5ch, though. That was just a fluke.
デ・ヴァレラ is based
upvoted
How does one have enough self control to learn japanese but not enough to deny invitations from "friends" who will purposely delay your nihongo progress.
要注意
My man, nothing is more important than your friends and family. Japanese can wait.
basketball american spotted
>nothing is more important than your friends and family
It's time to embrace escapism and forget about old useless sayings like the one in your post.
imagine being this much of a retarded normie
heatlh and money nigger everything else comes after.
>heatlh and money nigger
this without the nigger, niggers are the opposite of the first 2 items
>nothing is more important than your friends and family
酸素でも
ず is widely used in both writing/speaking language, and neither more nor less formal/literary than ない and its conjugation.
ぬ at the end of a sentence sounds formal, so merely used in speech.
As is said, ず is almost always placed in a sequence of events because(?) it can be replaced by ないで or なくて (...I know this explains nothing grammatically).
eg. He left the room without saying anything.
彼は何も言わず部屋を出て行った。
(言わず can be replaced by 言わないで or 言わずに)
Temperature doesn't drop, I can't stand any more.
気温が下がらず、私はこれ以上がまんできない。
(下がらず can be replaced by 下がらなくて)
[addition for those interested]
I guess the fact that ず is ない's old jisho-form and te/masu-form(終止形 and 連用形) makes it more confusing. This usage is still accepted nowadays like:
「伊方原発、運転差し止め認めず 大分地裁」
(=大分地方裁判所は、伊方原子力発電所の運転の差し止めを認めない)
産経ニュース-2018/09/27
or many set phrases
怖いもの知らず / 役立たず / 見ず知らずの人 / 後悔先に立たず / 開かずの扉 / (
ぬ at the end of a sentence sounds *very formal, so *rarely used in speech.
あ~全然だめだめ any corrections would be greatly appreciated.
fuck the new anki, I don’t remember why, but I tried it out and it was trash, I think it was the UI and default fonts or something
also no need to fix something that isn’t broken
>役立たず
ぼくの伝記の題名
I'll have to try to make some actual progress today
watching two movies isn't exactly the epitome of making nihongo progress anyway.... my other friends don't have any interest in anime, so I'm mostly glad I have friends who I can talk with about more than just Dragonball or some other stupid shit
does germany produce any kind of animation
We used to
en.wikipedia.org
not really no
sup
anyone has some advanced grammar book that they'd like to recommend?
i can communicate fine, but i feel it's time to get hang of the more nuanced stuff
if you know one that could help a lot it'd be great, thanks
read more
watch 日本語の森 stuff on youtube if you haven't already
somebody should make a ripoff called 日本語の林
Who is going to be タケパン
Sorry I haven’t actually watched it, though I’ve been planning to for a long time, so no idea who that guy is
>nuance
Senpai, try this: my.mixtape.moe
An .epub can be renamed to a .zip archive and be extracted as a normal folder (they are structured like websites).
Yo this shit was lit
知れず:we don't know
はいっていますが、何か?
>dubs
i don't forgive you
what anime did you watch?
ご愁傷様です
He butchered 君の名は
yep. its a written word. nobody uses it irl
How do you say I want you to sit on my face?
私の口にたわごと
だめだよ「君の名を」穢しちゃ
(君の名を汚してはダメ: Don't bring dishonour on your famiry name)
it's a joke
日本語スレに来たのは君?
よいしょ
>日本語スレ
Why do you enjoy that thread? It looks like any other cancerous off topic chatroom general.
didn't know it was german desu, but it used to air in Poland every evening
based
君の言っていることを否定はしない
日本語スレに閉じこもって日本語で話して何が面白いんだろうね?
まあ、僕をしても、あのスレは統制不能です
>統制不能です
経営不振のパンツ屋
俺の氏名はもう捨てた
I always wanted to read lightnovels in Japanese, instead I get a cuck English versions off bookwalker. I like slime desu
挙動不審のパンツ屋
Ahoy
Much appreciated, as always!
After I fell behind by a week or so I autistically tried to read through the archived threads I missed. This general is better than a lot of generals but still full of shit so I gave up.
What books and rules were decided on? Is there an old post you can link?
How about you go back to reading the threads then
...
No
Thanks
How about you stop being a bitch you little polish subhuman?
Yes, this is not a hugbox, but you are being a fucking faggot all the time for no reason.
I was waiting for a whiteknight, have a (You)
I just rejoice over the fact that there's no simon posting here anymore
Nibba if you put book club info in the op next time I'll let you lick my bunghole
It would be nice if the next thread creator could put book club info on the OP.
めんどくさあああああああ
Sure
~(^｡^
>Is there an old post you can link?
There is a static link with general information on one of the op sites.
itazuraneko.neocities.org
Any information can be altered/updated if the book club user asks.
Wide is justice.
thanks senpai
Thanks Australia. If that link was used every thread, I think that would be good enough.
Is the audio of yomchan down?
I want to try yomichan, so I can ditch rikaisama and update firefox; but the audio does not work. JapanesePod is dead
Japanesepod (alternative), there is the mechanical noise, but no sound (I tried some really common words)
Jisho.org it seems, as someting is loading, but nothing happens (no sound)
Works on my machine
Works on my machine
How many of the dictionaries do you have installed? I'd get all of them. Sometimes there are holes between definitions that get resolved by other dictionaries.
Ok, thank you
Just the JMdict english
I will install more and try it again
Install all of them you dumbass
Follow up question, just out of curiosity, why does yomichan click when there isn't audio for a word?
No clue. Wish it would default to computerized speech instead of clicking.
I installed all 5 dictionaries and I still have no sound. The only difference is, that it clicks, when I use Jisho as source (not for all words but for most second recommendations)
I don't know. I only have clicking sounds (and no sound for Japanespod) and I don't even know if thereis audio for a word though sometimes there is a loading thingy....
How fast is your internet? It might be timing out. Give examples of words you're trying to look up.
who here わがままLIFE?
Who wants to learn language of weeberos
Try a better browser like Google Chrome™
This one has audio
日本
時間
日
放送
大き
All pretty basic vocab.
Speedtests say I have some 13 mb/s download but when I actually download something I always have 1,7-1.8 mb/s regardless were I download
I thought Chrome spies on you
Everything spies on you, suck it up
It works with Chrome.
Maybe my firefox version is to old (55). I will try it again with a newer version of firefox tomorrow, maybe it works and if not I can still use the old version with rikaisama. But thank you for the idea with Chrome
ぺったん、ぺったん、つるぺったん
