DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #2062

This is a Japanese language learning thread for people interested in anime, manga, visual novels, light novels and Japanese video games.
Japanese speakers learning English are welcome, too.

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itazuraneko.neocities.org/horon/chigai/shakai.html#「先祖」と「祖先」の違い
nicovideo.jp/watch/sm33836161
youtube.com/watch?v=jakXVEUTT48
gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/phrasing/index
djtguide.neocities.org/kana/index.html
twitter.com/AnonBabble

I want to punch a native in the face.

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why

I didn't get the job

>I'm cancer free
おめでとう

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how would you translate the expression 'nothing beats X' or ' There's nothing that can match X in Y (strength, taste, intelligence etc...) ?

negative 右に出る

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Xに双璧をなすことがない。
Xがだれも跣だ。
Xの足元にも及ばない。
Xには敵わない。
XとYは相撲にならない。
Xは比べものにならない。
XとYは段違いだ。
Xに似合わない。
Xに匹敵するものはない。

I dunno, man, there are so many expressions...

先祖
祖先

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show me the booty

After 2 minutes of sailing the sea of yahoo answers I've plundered the ancient knowledge of 先祖 being more individual and 祖先 being a wider concept.

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itazuraneko.neocities.org/horon/chigai/shakai.html#「先祖」と「祖先」の違い

>倹約はお金に関することのみ用いられる

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> いずれ裏切ることは分かっていた それがこんな形になろうとはな
I've been told the latter half of this is short for それがこんな形になろうとは思わなかった, but how does that work? Is it like a stock sentence/is there a similar example that happens in english?

wow 1000 kanji a month what a huge effort

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its just omitted because it was so common, I can hear the person saying it and their tone conveys the unexpectedness

i like how you can tell exactly when i was drunk and/or hangover

Always, judging by this travesty.

Looks like someone pissed all over your chart

its cool and good i half assed it while still surpassing rtk bullshit _and_ designing my own system

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Cool, write something in japanese

but i will never start a patreon

If I recall, you didn't want the job anyway? Anyway, more time for NEETing and NIHONing

You're probably talking about the job from a few weeks ago since I haven't seen you around that much. I had an offer in Arundel recently to be a pub chef but they don't need anyone anymore. They might contact me again in March so now I'm back to job hunting again.

who said anything about japanese? its orthogonal

to be frank im still toiling through jordens beginning japanese

You'll learn all this bullshit you came up with orthogonally by learning some vocabulary.

>pub chef
there are worse jobs in life, but not many

imo (as an expert ofc) you cant effectively learn in context both kanji and vocab. so i pick learning spoken language in context and kanji on itself

Unemployment being one of them

surprisingly kanji is super easy which i didn't except

spooky asian symbols i guess

>you cant effectively learn in context both kanji and vocab

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You are an expert at wasting time.

sure take your time

~le smug passive recognition face~

nah im pretty effective

Display your effectiveness

i dont know japanese though, im relatively a beginner. i dont think ive misrepresented that

>This is a Japanese language learning thread

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i wake up, roll over, light a cigarette. once thats done i brew some coffee and drink a cup. i meditate and do anki. then i eat a big bowl of oatmeal w/ cottage cheese. i brew up a second pot and then start studying jorden's text. then i guess just freeform it for rest of the day.

are you suggesting chinese characters are somehow orthogonal to the japanese language?
fuck.damn

Did it never occur to you that a book from 30 years ago might be outdated in its teaching methods and worse than what's commonly available right now

Going to leave this here in case anyone finds some use out of it.
itazuraneko.neocities.org/horon/keigo/shishinmain.html

A new subsection has been added to the 補論 section of the site, this subsection in particular for 敬語. The above is a guide for the basic ins and outs of different types/levels of 敬語 usage. There is also some stuff on business Japanese that may be added to the main 敬語 page later on.

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i think my drunken shitposting is bringing this topic down. see ya next week i guess

Your posts give me this impression of a deviant weirdo who's constantly high on copious amounts of drugs.

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nah i put my trust in victor mair

yeah im cool

kek

Yoooooooooooooo

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また気障をかいているですね。
さて、貴殿の言語能力を見せてもらおうか?
飛べよ、紅白仙蛾様。

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urgh, please stop talking like a 500 year old vampire anime girl

しつこいな
それな

Says the retard typing like a 15 year-old Twitter 3D girl.

食い扶持でさえ入れればいいのに…縄張りだけだよ、お前。情けない高吠え。

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解せなければ勉強方法を見直さないとならないかもしれないじゃないとおもわないか?
他人を罵る前には。

why do I have to add 可愛気 manually like an animal REEEEEE

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cute!

>quad negative

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it's a pretty simple sentence actually

~ if you can't 解す aren't you thinking "maybe I have to 見直す my 勉強方法, don't I" ~

What's a 仙蛾

made up bullshit I think



曾孫
玄孫
来孫
昆孫
仍孫
雲孫
Woah.

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in german it'd just be

孫 = Enkel, 曾孫 = Urenkel and then continue with Ururenkel, Urururenkel etc. ad infinitum

nicovideo.jp/watch/sm33836161

>chatpad.jp
you can(not) talk to japanese

>I'm cancer free.
Glad to hear, user.

仏になるか

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I'd have loved if it went like 子、孫、曾孫、曾々孫、曾々々孫 ...

Cause you are a dirty shitposting pole.
Karma you fucking faggot.

Pot calling the kettle!

Help I've fallen into the trap of only doing my reps and not reading at all
Almost feel like skipping anki today to read

B&RP
Reading is better in the long term anyways

What the fuck is B&RP

you should read something you actually enjoy

Do you never browse Jow Forums outside of this thread?
Actually, saying it out loud, that isn't a half-bad idea.

Banned RP??????????

If you were to add pitch accent patterns in 6k deck, would you add them on the front, or on the back of the cards?

Pitch accent????????????????????????

youtube.com/watch?v=jakXVEUTT48

Back, of course. You gotta be able to recall pronunciation, and that includes the correct accent. (I for one don't fail a card if I get pitch accent wrong, but I pay attention to it and it has been improving gradually.)

I do usually enjoy it once I get started, it's just that getting started is hard when I have other things I need to do

He's lying

Who gives a shit about pitch accent?
You're always going to make mistakes and be an obvious gaijin anyways.
Maybe if you've been studying for 25 years and know a native level of vocabulary, but while you're doing 6k?????

I browse Jow Forums and I don't know it either

Better start early so as not to build up bad habits. Following accent patterns is not that hard anyway.
gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/phrasing/index

If you're not speaking yet, it's pretty much a non-issue. Just do your best to make the same sound as what you here in your flash cards.

DJT doing things backwards as usual.

There is no harm in trying to adjust to pronunciation since it's more of a habit thing than actively learning it. I feel it won't hinder your memorization at all.

難攻不落の牙城

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大学の勉強のせいで忙しくなってあんまり読めないけど、
よくHellotalkでかわいい女子と話すから大丈夫だと思う。

it's not necessary though, you'll pick up pronunciation from listening, but as already said, you'll always sound like a gaijin anyway

被せ

Okay, so, I understand that I should learn hiragana first, but I don't know what is the correct mount of consecutive repetitions per letter.

One letter per day? Over and Over again through all the day?
One letter every 5 minutes and starting again when I make all the words?
30 repetitions per letter? What is the best schedule?

Hiragana and katakana in 3 days with djtguide.neocities.org/kana/index.html then just go into anki

just learn that shit it's not rocket science and it's not that much that is requires some special method. learn to recognize them fairly confidently and then just go and try to read them every single time you encounter them to get some reading practice. dont spend more than 2 weeks max to go over them in fact it shouldn't even take a week

i didn't ask any special method, just how to do better the basic task
I don't understand this, can you help me?

If you can't even figure that out by yourself, you might just be retarded.