Question for first-worlders

when a middle eastern or african man have your citizenship do they enjoy the same treatment of being a firstworlder as you at border crossings or theyre seen as shitskin no matter what passport they hold?

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Same, still treated as an evil kara boga warrior.
t. italian citizienship tunisian

They sell shitty jewelry on the street

well that sucks.

You have to go back.
I bet you live in Northern Italy you fuck

It doesn't. Most people don't care and those who do usually won't care once they talk to you. Peopel are only racist from far away. They forget you even are foreign. I have heard many people talk about how all immigrants are bad right in fornt of my face and then they remember and say "no but not you ofc you cool, or shit like that". It's not that relevant for social stuff.Only Jow Forums autist will actually treat you different. The only problem is job finding since low level jobs tend to see foreigners badly. (eventhough in high level jobs you shouldn't have the same problem, not sure though)

niggers will always be niggers

Bet I look whiter then you.

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Where are you from, instead?

X to doubt. You still have to go back.
The absolute state of northern italy. Soon there will be more romanian gyppos and shitskins like you than natives, and we will be the only italian part left.

you speak very nice english. i assume you also speak fluent italian,arabic and french? thats really cool.

What is that instead there for?
I am from tunisia, already stated, city in italy doesn't matter, but it's a big city of course.

>very good english
>look whiter then you

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No i was born here, arabic is the one i speak the worst of those you mentioned.
I can't tell for sure, but i look as pale as pale italians.(not the very pale of course) I have seen many southerners be darker then me. And people usually think i am ita until i tell them. Which is quite sad really, but whatever.

I always get than wrong, i kinda learnt it wrong and can't get used to the right version when i type fast. You can actually spot me easily because i always get it wrong.

a gaijin will always be a gaijin
dog do not belong in pig shed, nor do horse in house
human belong in house

You'll never be finnish.

Btw i dunno what happens in big cities up there but here in Bari people who arent nice to immigrants wont forget you're an immigrant.
We often used to make fun of our Albanian friend and tell him to go steal a scooter. And last time to our boxing gym a bengali newbie came and my instructor told him we should make him wear Salvini clothes while he's with us.

>and we will be the only italian part left.
Like the good old times

it's almost as if, being well-educated is a way out regardless of colour

You understand it's not whiteness that matters but family? You will always be arab, have an arab culture and an arab name. You are an immigrant.
Ukranians are white af but They're still immigrants.

Of course we always do nationality banter between friends, it's mostly with older acquaintances it happens. Especially because young people don't usually go for those rants randomly. (though it did happen to my brother exactly once with a friend)

if he have italian citizenship then hes italian bro.

Not to me and not a lot of people here.

Yes of course. I didn't claim to be italian did i now?
Yes, but the fact that it is a necessity isn't ideal. For example a friend of mine had a shitty weekend job at a restaurant and when he asked to bring a friend to work there they said no because i was arab. (i even went there to ask myself and as soon as i said my name i saw the employer cringe hard and didn't get the call, eventhough they needed people and would accept anyone for a trial day) It's ok, it's not a tragedy, but if he emigrates without an education he might probably find himself stuck in immigrant jobs with no possibility to climb. Just a heads up.

I mean you people in Turkey should understand. An Armenian or a Kurd with Turkish citizenship is still not a Turk.

not to me either.

It's very easy to get a German citizenship, so it means nothing. You will always be a Kanake.

How many "not italians" live where you live, are immigrants a big minorance?

Yes, i live in a poor part of the city, so of course immigrant percentage is way higher then normal in the city. I think in middle school we had like one third non italians without thinking to hard. When i went to high school we had only two.

Only insane far Left types actually consider them Irish.

The rest instinctively know they're outsiders. The term we use is "paper Irish" for Nigerians, Pakistanis etc. who have our passport.

having shitalian citizenship is only worthy so i can go to usa without visa

Actually 4 out of 29, i remembered two other people who were remarkably useless.

Italians are shitkins already, pedro, or is that like nigger calling other nigger a nigger?

Slavs are shitskins too, Dimitri

True, but we are talking about humans here.

>random u2
Nice

how they even tell you are not italian?
arabic name?

who cares what wh*Toids think

By the fact that his wife or mother wears a hijab

Yes usually comes out like that.

Sure, arab.

Tunisians very often don't wear hijab.( especially not my mommy's generation, we are having a weird trend right now, but still probably an even split even now, maybe more without it)

Also tunisians look nothing like northern italians

italians have many varying phenotypes and some look very brown/non wite

But you were born and raised in italy from tunisian parents?
Are you a muslim?

Northern italians don't even remember how they are supposed to look anymore, with the southern invasion.

Lmao slavshit who lives in 3rd world country talking about whiteness
I dislike eastern european immigrants here too btw

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>Are you a muslim?
No lost it around like 12 years old when i went edgy.

Only in big cities like Milan or Turin. Most cities in Veneto or smaller cities in Liguria and Trentino and Piedmont are still pretty much northern majorance

Yes of course.

Someone farted? Was it the shitskin arab gypsy looking shitalian gangster?
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>Lmao slavshit who lives in 3rd world country
Yes, because i'm white and you are shitskin nigger. Third world is just political affiliation, you retarded monkey.
But you still have arabic name? What difference it makes for people, they would still think you are muslim, no?

I don't see how that ties to anything else, but the second question they make after hearing the name is whether or not i am muslim.

Because they think of you as muslim anyways, even if you say otherwise.

are you making takya?

Even if it were so , why are you saying this? It kinda seems like you are implying it should influence my religiousness.

what's takya?

>im white
No, you're a slav.

Not really, but you got named like that because of islam, why won't you rename yourself similarly to your name but more european or something?

That's not just an islamic name, non islamic people in tunisia and other arab influenced countries have those names. It's liek calling your son as the apostles, it's compeltely ingrained in the culture and doesn't hold a statement anymore. Also just because i am not muslim doesn't mean i hate the religion and want to make such a shitty statement to distance myself from it. It's an arab name and it's my name, i would never want to change it.

You make sense, it's your name, but people would still think otherwise. I knew one dagestani dude who i thought was muslim, of course, but he was very aggressively saying he was not and he really wasn't but it was hard to believe, i thought he was suspicious.

People don't usually suspect that hard here. Plus even if they do think that it's not that big of a deal.

wat you tink of salvini?

What is takya? don't ignore my questions.

pretending you are not muslim

Btw im part northern italian, even though i live in southern italy

why would that need an arab word? I don't care much about salivini honestly, he seems like a negative on a superficial level, but it's not enough of a negative to get worried.

Definitely the latter

Did you consider moving?

Nah, im fine here, if i find a job here id rather not move out. I stayed in turin for a year and came back, couldnt stand all that "multiculturalism"

>couldnt stand all that "multiculturalism
Why do you care? As long as you only make friends with italians immigrants won't really bother you. They are jut there.

I dunno, i felt like i didnt belong there. Im much happier here. And it's not like we dont have immigrants here, but at least we have our own culture. Turin didnt even feel like an italian city. I barely met any Turinese there.

For examples naples has a ton of immigrants. But its culture is well preserved.

Can you make more specific examples? I don't have much exp in sub italian cultures.

but arent you an arab yourself

No he was replying to me , the arab. Not adding to the post.

I dunno, if you come here you will kinda get the feeling, people here are different. The cities arent multicultural, because it's usually the immigrants who have to integrate.
For example, Ive noticed a lot of people up there eat more foreign food than italian, which is weird, since italian food is arguably the best in the world

And most of them dont even know a single word in their dialect.

>Turin didnt even feel like an italian city. I barely met any Turinese there.
Protip: the people with 100% Turin/Piedmont ancestry are incredibly secluded from the rest and basically have their own invisible circles

>For example, Ive noticed a lot of people up there eat more foreign food than italian, which is weird, since italian food is arguably the best in the world
Nah, try kebab. Anyway big northern cities probably lost their "identity" even before the wave of immigration with terun invasion. Eating italian food costs more (assuming we are talking about restaurants and fast foods) and even rich peopel want quirky shit rather than what they eat in their own homes amped up a bit. I'd say it's normal for foreign to be pretty popular. Eventhough i wouldn't be sure that it is eaten more.

It's a two sided deal
If he genuinely embraced his adopted homeland the. You can argue this
But often people get their papers and still don't consider themselves part of the nation or exclude themselves

>Protip: the people with 100% Turin/Piedmont ancestry are incredibly secluded from the rest and basically have their own invisible circles
Completely false unless you are talking old people.

>try kebab
I did, there is no comparison to the richness of italian cuisine compared to arab/turkish one. Sorry, in food you cant really compete with us.
>big northern cities had lost their identity with terun invasion
Yeah i know, I'm not a Terronian apologist. But if i want to be with Neapolitan and Sicilians i can just stay here, i guess.
>italian food costs more.
Here i can eat a complete italian meal for 5 euros. Japanese restaurants cost way more than italian, also kebab costs as much as a pizza here.

I still think you have to have at least part native blood to be considered Italian by a lot of people.

>Here i can eat a complete italian meal for 5 euros
What kind of meal? The only thing i could think of for that price would be a pizza or some well hidden trattoria if you look for it well, but again if you go there it really feels like you should have just eaten home. Also kebab has nothing to do with me o r my nation, in fact they barely know what it is there. They eat schawarma, which is very similar, but not quite. A kebab still costs less then 5 euros and a pizza kebab for 6 euros is going to satiate you far more for a comparable price. At least with the prices here. A fucking arancino costs 2,50 euros for some ungodly reason, not even a fancy one. And yes good foreign stuff costs more, but again it's for the rich and special occasions.

>arancino costs 2,50€
Here it's like 1,20 at most
Slice of focaccia 1,50 +arancino 1,20 + water 0,80 + coffee 0,80 in un panificio qualunque

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Genetically, Southern Italians ARE shitskins.

I don't know, i guess probably everything in general costs much more here, but paying 2,50 for an arancino is just ridiculous when kebab costs 3,50. Eventhough i love them and would possibly prefer them most of the time.

A lot of times you cant even differentiate southern italians from northern ones desu
>Pic related is my southern granpa

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dogs and pigs are different species you mongrel.