ITT we post the bad guys

Why does this Polish lad hate England with a passion? I think the only interaction we've had with his country was the whole ww2 debacle. Surely that's not enough to warrant this level of hatred though?

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>unites Europe
>makes Germany richer and EU-countries more poor

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You treat Poles worse than we treat negros and Mexicans

>and EU-countries more poor
except it doesn't

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>unites Europe
Northern Europe, and that's debatable
>cares about the environment
lol
>engages in free trade all around the world
lol

Don't you mean the USA?
* Invented democracy and capitalism
* Saved the world from Nazis and Commies

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Yeah we don't invite Poles to fuck our wives

But they do it anyway

I expected better banter from you user. that was extremely poor

just like Poles

>Expecting good banter from an American
That was your first mistake

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We're not the bad guy we're more like an anti hero

this

you're the good guys that fell to the dark side like Anakin Skywalker

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UK is the bumbling, inept comic relief bad guy

England are the bad guys. The rest of us dindu nuffin

Well of course a Pole would say free gibs is positive.

Break free, then.

If England are the bad guys the celts are the henchmen who go along anyway

Do I detect jealousy.

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When did we fall to the dark guys Hans, was it when we refused to violate the neutrality of a nation we were treaty bound to protect.

the sins of the big guy latches unto the rest of you

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Bomb Londonistan

>UK is the bumbling, inept comic relief bad guy
That's Russia honestly

Why are Poles so ungrateful to us, we literally sent hundreds of thousands of our men to die to save you in TWO world wars

>anti-democratic
>anti-citizens rights
>bankrupts entire countries
>destroys employment for young adults

wow so positive

Scotland is not a real country. You are an Englishman in a dress.

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But the EU is the best thing to happen to Europe in the last century you dumb turk.

>a dress
It's a skirt. If you're attempting banter at least get it right you mongo.

>third world shitholes like poland and romania seem to be the only people to support the EU

REALLY gets the neurons neuronifying

The EU is the worst thing to happen to Europe since WW2. It's a shitstain on the history of the continent

you sent them to save yourself ffs
every single one of these is wrong and I can easily prove that to you

for example, how exactly is the EU anti-democratic?

It's a TF2 quote. Know your vidya, Mac.

for you

Serbia and serbs are canonically evil

no we SAVED you from being under a totalitarian regime

>how exactly is the EU anti-democratic?

EU law supersedes national law
EU law can only be drafted by the European commission
EU commissioners are unelected
The EU parliament can only decide whether to pass a law

In what way is this democratic?

Nice Proxy, Merkel. Enough with the Africans already...

you said it yourself, democratically elected officials decide which laws to pass. how is that undemocratic?

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The elected officials aren't making the laws retard. Not that you care, all you want is gibs, toilet ape.

Poles behave objectively better than those subhumans, so you’re full of shit. We have a paki and coon problem here, the only problems Poles brought was trying to pronounce their names.

The germans

>you said it yourself, democratically elected officials decide which laws to pass. how is that undemocratic?

The commission is the sovereign part of the parliament that decides what laws can even be passed. There is no democratic country where this is true, because it's undemocratic. The MEPs arguably do not even decide laws, they just vote on them.

Based.

It does

At least they actually have written history.

but we were under a totalitarian regime after WW2

anyway I personally hold no grudge because I'm more knowledgeable about history than an average Pole, Poland committed grave strategic mistakes prior to WW2 in the first place

>EU law supersedes national law
What's undemocratic about that? All the countries agreed to it.

>EU law can only be drafted by the European commission
That's a purely(and rather esoteric for most of people ) constitutional concern and we can discuss is that alright or not but it doesn't make the EU anti-democratic. The EP and the Council have control over the Commission.

>EU commissioners are unelected
They aren't elected directly. Just like ministers in all democratic countries. Then, there are no democratic countries in the world.

>The EU parliament can only decide whether to pass a law
Same, similar procedure as in all the existing democratic countries. So what are you on about exactly?

Shut up fucking gyppo, maybe for your shitty country, not for Spain

southern europeans are so pathetic it's not even funny anymore
corrupt as fuck, live above what you can pay, go in debt, blame Germany
in Spain there are thousands of houses and hotel complexes that nobody uses because you're too retarded to plan properly

meanwhile poor former Eastern bloc coutries like Hungary, Romania, Poland, Czechia and the Baltics are making rapid advances and have their shit together

Hey England
Love you guys keep up the good work

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Only poor countries like this union

the polish peoples republic was democratic

Kys retard, i'm voting for Falange this elections, they want to return Spain to peseta, better times are coming, i know it

>technocrats propose laws
>democratically elected officials decide if they should be implemented
it's a good system if you ask me

Churchill and Rosevelt literally gifted Poland to Stalin in Jalta. Polish soldiers were not allowed to even participate in the victory parade in London. saved us? fuck you cunt.

>What's undemocratic about that? All the countries agreed to it.

It doesn't matter if countries agree to it or not. The point was that it's undemocratic, and it is. There is no way for elected officials to even draft laws.

>That's a purely(and rather esoteric for most of people ) constitutional concern and we can discuss is that alright or not but it doesn't make the EU anti-democratic. The EP and the Council have control over the Commission.

The commission is an independent body that acts on it's own accord. No one else controls it, and that's why its sovereign. It has full executive power and no citizen can vote on anything it does, or even who is on it, not even in an indirect way.

>They aren't elected directly. Just like ministers in all democratic countries. Then, there are no democratic countries in the world.

They aren't even elected indirectly and they're not comparable to ministers. They have full sovereign powers and have more power than the leaders of individual countries to make laws for their own countries.

>Same, similar procedure as in all the existing democratic countries. So what are you on about exactly?

The UK parliament has full control over drafting laws and passing them as long as the commission doesn't disagree, yet the EU parliament has none other than voting. The UK parliament is sovereign and the executive just as the EU commission is. In what way are they comparable?

No it's a shit system. Autocratic monarchy is a good system, but that's besides the point. We are discussing whether it's a democratic system or Not, and quite clearly it isn't.

>one party system
>political oposition was illegal
>democratic
are you a "special" boy, user?

>start ww2 by taking ethnic german land and refusing reasonable demands to give it back
>OY VEY FOOKINSZ ENGLISZZ HELP OYSZ

>no law can be implemented without the consent of democratically elected officials
>it's not a democratic system
ok

They're not technocrats. The House of Lords is a technocracy because you can only be put in there for being an expert. In the commission, you don't need to be an expert on anything other than politics. And not only that, but the Lords doesn't even fully control the law like the commission does as the Commons does that instead.

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we should've allied in the world wars, we'd be ruling the world now

do yu elect your Prime Minister and the Cabinet? wow, UK is clearly not democratic.

How dense are you. They aren't being drawn up by democratically elected people. It's that simple.

>corrupt
How ironic

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good post hate ch*rchill

cool revisionism, but you should fuck off with it back to Jow Forums

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fuck h*manoids

but they cannot be implemented without their consent. if you ask me, I prefer technocrats to draft laws, it minimizes populism. you cannot call the system undemocratic if democratically elected officals are an integral part of it.

Or if Hitler hadn't chimped out and started shit with the US and USSR

The leader of the party that wins the most seats forms the cabinet and becomes the Prime Minister. What does the President of the EU Commission win?

>danzig
>98% German in 1938

he is nominated by European Council (heads of EU states), and approved by EU parliment (elected officials)

They're not technocrats, stop using that word. They're not proficient in anything other than politics and they're not appointed for anything other than politics. I don't think you even know what the word means

Free City of Danzig was not under Polish juristiction and it was an independent entiety created by Treaty of Versailles.

>The point was that it's undemocratic, and it is.
How is that undemocratic exactly? Countries democratically elected to cede some of their sovereignty to Brussels.

>No one else controls it
Untrue, the Commission can be veto'ed by both the EP and the Council. Juncker was the spitzenkandidat for the EPP in the last elections, they won, therefore, he's the Commission president.

I'm not commenting the rest because it's based on the false premise that the Commission is somehow all-powerful which it isn't.

Note that not so long ago the Canada deal was delayed by the regional parliament of Wallonia. You must be seriously delusional to claim that the member countries have no say over anything in the EU when clearly even subnational regionals can influence the whole process. But I'm not surprised, there's so much false trash in British media about the EU, no wonder you wanted to leave after all constantly being fed all that bullshit over decades.

When people elect their heads, they don't do it on the basis that they would vote for X person to be the President of the European Commission and most people don't even know that's a thing. The President is non-elected and appointed by people on their own whim. His also non-elected cabinet then gets to decide which laws can be even considered to be passed without the consent of any elected officials.

To contrast this with parliament, only elected officials can draft legislation and pass it and the prime minister HAS to be elected themselves to parliament on their own basis.

>The President is non-elected and appointed by people on their own whim. His also non-elected cabinet
so like your Prime Minister and their Cabinet?

He literally won the last European elections. The same procedure as in your country. Just admit already that you're not familiar with the EU at all.

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the 20th century was a hundred years of tragedy
what could have been...

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I prefer it as well, but if the people chosen by the people can't draft anything then it isn't democratic

>so like your Prime Minister and their Cabinet?

The prime minister is an elected member of parliament and so is her cabinet. No one in the european commission is elected in any way

Haha so you admit it was stolen german territory under p*lish occupation under the guise of the "League of Nations"

probably butthurt about not including crimea