How is Low German different from high German? Do they not understand each other's language?

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their dialects have been completetly wiped out by Prussia

Is there little difference between the two languages now?

Yeah they just speak standard German which is a conglomeration of middle German dialects. so low German technically doesn't even exist anymore except in the netherlands

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Low German = Cringe
High German = Based

Standard German was implemented into schooling and so all the dialects got wiped out besides a few small rural areas.

Have you heard of the High Germans?

Kek

The wrong side won the Austro-Prussian War

Austro german peruvians i Pozuzo - Peru low german

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So Low German is basically a meme now?

I'm pretty sure Low German still exists in some form in Sudtirol.
We aren't great at preserving regional languages but for some reason we were much better at that than pretty much every other western country even after 20 years of fascism and 65 years of public TV.

The fuck not everything that isnt standard german is low german. Ops picture refers to plattdeutsch wich is almost extinct.

Wut? If anything they speak Bavarian, a High German dialect

Yeah I meant High German, I'm a retard that often forgets that High and Low in geography refer to the stream of the river and not to North/South.

I think it's more about elevation, north is flat, south has Alps

>austrian
>low german

Choose one.

Alright so first of all
Standard german = Hochdeutsch (literally: high german)
The local dialects of the yellow area on your map are refered to as "low german" dialects but NOT because they are somehow the opposite of standard german but because the land has a very low altitude, which is also how the Netherlands got their name. Other areas of Germany have their own dialects aswell that are different from standard german. Standard german is a conglomeration of different dialects and eventually the way people around the city of Hannover (within yellow area) spoke it became the most influential, pretty much the "standard" of standard german. The dialects of northern germany are almost extinct and the only thing that remains is a slight slang.

>Low German
There are maybe 2 Grannies speaking it.

The only low German langauge that survived is Dutch.
I understand maybe 60% of written Dutch or 0% of spoken one.

Low German used to be incredibly comparable to Dutch, to the point where they could speak with each other.

There is an incredibly common misconception about western-European countries in that people think we've always been unified by language or ethnicity, but western-Europe was made up many small ethnic groups that have simply been repressed to create larger countries because Europe didn't do well as fractured as it used to be.

In the Netherlands alone there were once 3 different groups, Germany of course had far more.
Kings simply forced the language by suppressing other language groups until they disappeared to assert total dominance over these regions.

At one point 1/3th of Europe was technically French according to modern French standards, later people were forced into German languages by several kingdoms, and eventually language distinctions started to form that could not be reversed and made further conquest difficult or impossible.

Low German is essentially reduced to dialects, we speak with a low German dialect near the German borders where I live, we speak Dutch but with somewhat of a German twist.
It used to be an entirely seperate language, but rich kingdoms within the Netherlands forced ethnic groups such as the Frisians and the Duchy of Limburg to speak what we call ABN, civilized Dutch.
That is something we deliberately named civilized Dutch. because it was a deliberate attack against other languages spoken within the Netherlands that didn't adhere to these standards, even today any other dialect or language that isn't ABN Dutch is frowned upon, and they do the same in Germany.

Not many people know about this, but in the Netherlands the standardized Dutch language is heavily guarded because Dutch is such an incredibly old language we lack basic rules, such as easily pronounceable vowels, gendered language to better contextualize, and even rules for designated words.

How old is Dutch exactly? As in, how much has it changed since the 1600s or whatever? For example people these days can read Shakespeare if they thin about it but Chaucer is very difficult

its called neder-saksisch
check your language opression privilege

The Dutch language is originally Old Franconian, better said, Dutch is Old Franconian to differentiate it from the New German Franconian, which was split into Upper-New Franconian and Lower-New Franconian.
We weren't affected by this New Franconian shift and thus kept speaking Old Franconian.

Old Franconian, or the Dutch distinction of Franconian is over 1500 years old, and has since barely been touched to the point where we can read ancient Dutch texts with little trouble, and we can even jokingly write Old Franconian in /nederdraad/ and understand each other.
We're talking maybe 10-20% differences today, most of them grammar rules, easier vowels, and shorter words.

Dutch became more 'gated' when what is now the Netherlands started writing texts which set sort of structured standards, but we did pretty late compared to other languages.
Almost all changes in Old Franconian language were political as several small duchies started fighting for influence, especially Holland which spoke Frisian, a separate Dutch language only mildly influenced by Old Franconian, started to expand its influence during the Dutch war for independence of the HRE and Spain, and the Dutch Golden Age, by propagating Hollandic Old Franconian (the Hollandic Frisians had abandoned Frisian) as an official Dutch language during the time of Dutch nationalism due to newfound independence.

Holland forced standardized Hollandic Dutch by only releasing the BIble in Hollandic Dutch, which made it impossible for the rest of the Netherlands who were poorly educated and wanted to be part of the Golden Age in Holland to be educated without learning Hollandic Dutch.

This is also why Dutch sounds so incredibly dated and archaic, and so gutteral, it's because Dutch is in fact the oldest surviving western-European language.

It is even said Dutch travellers already spoke Dutch to Jesus Christ which motivated him to write the bible.

icelandic is older tho

Very true

>*LOW* german
I find this name problematic

Netherlands is named low countries.

Wouldn't that be Icelandic? I read that they can read the sagas

>he conservatism of the Icelandic language and its resultant near-isomorphism to Old Norse (which is equivalently termed Old Icelandic by linguists) means that modern Icelanders can easily read the Eddas, sagas, and other classic Old Norse literary works created in the tenth through thirteenth centuries.

I know, I was just joking.
Netherlands in Portuguese is literally Países Baixos (Low countries) but we prefer to say Holanda

Plattdeutsch is a better word. Platt means flatt and refers to the geography.

In French it's Pays-Bas and in Dutch it's also simply lower lands.

In german its holland ; D

That's very interesting, must be interesting to look so far back without problems

Ummm sweaty you're not the only ones that are guttural, mkay?

It is also not western-European

Yeah, Dutch is pretty old
>Hebban olla uogala nestas hagunnan hinase hi(c) (a)nda thu uuat unbidan uue nu

My great grandma speaks Plautdietsch

Only low IQ retards with no knowledge of history calls it "Holanda". The average favela boy