Why do Poles hate when Germans and Russians do business? Shame on you, Poland

>Szwecja
how the fuck do you even pronounce that

SH-VE-CI-JA i assume

We should be nice to russia and do much business

nordstream2 will make Russia more dependent on German money.

because we would be less US puppets then

SH-VE-TS-YA

Offer us a competitive price and we will

We have contract with you til 2040 which you bribed/extorted a Polish politician to get. Now you will cheat like you always do and create crisis situations where sudden unscheduled purchases will have to be made because mr putput is butthurt over something, even more so inland, like in Ukraine where you will attempt to freeze ukrops to death most likely. I'm not even sure if gas can be pumped back that far from Germ reserves, since their infrastructure is bad.

Your shitty pipe is also a potential disaster for the Baltic, you shit. You already have land pipes but opt to shit up a very isolated sea BP style solely for the leverage of blackmailing other countries. Oh, and it inhibits traffic on the Baltic since its not located low enough. Meaning if we want really big tankers this shit will have to be rebuild, which will never happen because your state is malicious.

we already have our own energy grid.

It is pretty obvious that Germany and Russia are encircling Poland. Europe has no army so Poles are very aware that in case of armed conflict Europe will do nothing and they'll only have Americans to rely on.

shame on you, Poland

>Europe has no army
spain, france, benelux, germany scandinavia, baltic states, swiss, austria

Both Britain and France have a significant amount of nukes.

>broomsticks

>We have contract with you til 2040 which you bribed/extorted a Polish politician to get. Now you will cheat like you always do and create crisis situations where sudden unscheduled purchases will have to be made because mr putput is butthurt
Empty butthurt rhetoric
>Ukraine where you will attempt to freeze ukrops
Ukrops have outstanding gas bills in the billions and like to syphon it off when nobody's looking.
>potential disaster
How so?
>REEE Russia is just going to blackmail everyone
Brainwashed paranoid schizoid. Mutual trade with the EU is beneficial to both. If Russia starts cutting off supplies (if all bills are paid) it loses business.

None of them of serious size or combat tested

Russia has many more and spans across a huge swathe of land.

are you drunk?

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no

EU mil. tech is 25 years ahead. size doesn't matter.

>25 years ahead
Ahead of whom? Russia? Doubt it

grow up.

Europe's military has been tested in Ukraine. It didn't even bother.

You already did cut off gas to countries in the region multiple times, you can play pretend all you want. Every time we did something Kremlin didn't like there was a shortage. You only stopped when diversification became an agenda, hoping the expenses and shilling would deter the consequent admins.

I'd say "dishonest russian" but that'd be redundant.

You're legit retarded if you think your "25 years ahead" heap of belly button lint can stop 15 000 tanks or whatever ruskies have at this point.

Europe can't defend itself (and wahts more countries like Italy or France will not lift a finger even if it theoretically could) which makes those anti-NATO sentiments Germans like to indulge in pretty embarrassing.

>You already did cut off gas to countries in the region multiple times
We only cut off gas for unpaid bills in Ukraine.
>you can play pretend all you want.
That's literally what you're doing. Fuck off from our pipeline and stfu you weird american cock-sucking and obsessed freaks. It doesn't concern you either way.

NATO is reduntant geopolitical tool that should have been disbanded a long time ago. History demonstrates that it only upsets the geopolitical balance in the region and causes conflict instead of preventing it.

>We only cut off gas for unpaid bills in Ukraine.

You cut off gas to Poland around dozen times over the last 20 years. Before the winter seasons.

You're weaker than USA and they can suppress you any way they like NATO or no NATO, the org is jsut a form of their advantage over you. Ofc you'd like to limit these interactions artificially to yourself and countries weaker than you but that will never happen even if NATO is dissolved. Would just get replaced by something else.

I like the "upset" balance in Europe very much. Unlike under the super balanced Russian "mir" people finally developing a decent standard of living.

Not sure what the USA being stronger or weaker has to do with Europes relationship to Russia, m8.
>You're weaker than USA and they can suppress you any way they like NATO or no NATO,
Ok, then it's an irrelevant imperialist tool thay was never meant to encroach on Warsaw pact space (as was guaranteed) and that currently unnecessarily destabilizes the region and the Wests relationship with Russia. All the current problems we have, we have because of NATO expansion.
>You cut off gas to Poland around dozen times over the last 20 years.
Source?
Also it's our prerogative who we sell gas to.
>I like the "upset" balance in Europe very much.
Then you're an idiot lol. You can be developed and not have a destabilized region with a boot up your ass.

What a babbling idiot. You guaranteed Ukraine peace after it disarmed from nukes. Now you "stabilize" the region by invading it. Your stability just means local regional hegemony, I dunno if you're so stupid you don't realize it or being a russian again: just because influence zones are more evenly spread doesn't make anything better. In fact Russia notoriously destroys everything it touches because you're garbage at economics, always overextend in military expenditure and like to siphon productivity from your satellites like in Warsaw Pact. On top of that your political culture is primitive and violent which leads to low trust and high corruption. Nobody wants your cancer.

>Also it's our prerogative who we sell gas to.

Can you be any more of a dishonest bitch if you tired? All it took for you to construct an escape strategy was me repeating myself with more conviction.

Gas contracts last for decades, you purposefully applied pressure by having "malfunctions" in the pipeline West of Ukraine and Belarus every time Polish govts did something your boss monkey didn't like. By contrast Ukrs had almost no problems as long as they kissed your ass. So no, you actually covertly broke legal agreements.

>2018
>using gas to cook, heat your house etc.

business (molotov ribbentrop)

What else do you use to heat your house? If you dont have an oven all thats left is electricity. And you might aswell burn money in that case.

>You guaranteed Ukraine peace after it disarmed from nuke
And then NATO expanded and CIA staged a revolution in Ukraine. Like I said all our problems are because the West didnt keep irs promises. Russia has tried its best to mend ties but the West simply refused.
>Your stability just means local regional hegemony
It just means having the NATO threat as far away from our borders as possible.
>just because influence zones are more evenly spread doesn't make anything better.
I don't understand if you're stupid or just being polish again. Clearly that's how geopolitics works.
>Russia notoriously destroys everything it touches
Here ypu are being a brainless Pole again with empty propagandist platitudes. How hard is it not to be brainwashed by your media?
>Can you be any more of a dishonest bitch if you tired? All it took for you to construct an escape strategy was me repeating myself with more conviction.
What are you even saying autismo? Where's your source?

And once again how is any of this Polands business?

We are the only one eastern European country which will benefit from this financially

God speed Germanbros

*arf arf*
good dogie

If you don't like us as a supplier just don't buy anything from us what germans have to do with that?

Better to be German whore than tukogreek

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xexexexe you said it albo

Don't tell me I don't know geopolitics when you try to pretend cuddly Wushia wants to be fwends with everyone and mean USA won't let it. Given a chance you'd bring most of the region under your domination and exploit it like you used to not long ago and put it in poverty because your imperialism has zero economic base beyond selling what you dig up. And then you'd go project power further outward and forget about muh lack of blanace.

>And once again how is any of this Polands business?

And what is your business invading Ukraine for making autonomous decisions? Oh but suddenly you're big on sovereignty when it suits you, scumbag.

Since before nordstream you had to eventually restart gas flow through Eastern Europe you weren't capable of completely fucking ukrops. After nordstream Poland's security will downgrade because Ukraine's position will fall further and they're our buffer. Germans ought to take that into account but they're snakes who are perfectly willing to sell the region out. I guess by Russian standard we'd be justified to attack you now, since you encroach on us with your sphere of influence.

>mean USA won't let it. Given a chance you'd bring most of the region under your domination and exploit it lik....
Empty platitudes again
>And what is your business
>whataboutism and diverting attention
Kek. Typical brainwashed polack.
>I guess by Russian standard we'd be justified to attack you now, since you encroach on us with your sphere of influence.
Trade deal is not the same as a military alliance lmao. Your entire post is just a strawman upon a strawman because you know full well that Poland is acting like a stupid US lackey in an energy rivalry between these countries and yet ypu pretend to have some moral reasons for it. Absolutely pathetic.

>Empty platitudes again

You don't know what that word even means, moron.

And its not whataboutism either when I explain exactly whats our stake in not having nordstream, you daft tundra nigger.

>Trade deal is not the same as a military alliance lmao.

Who cares? You make that distinction but it doesn't inherently matter as it all interlocks. Nobody will invade Russia anyway because of MAD. USA-sized powers (I guess China might become this as well) suppress local powers like Russia so they can't compete on a world stage because they didn't establish themselves in the region yet and can't command the resources thereof. Countries like Poland get to not be fucked up by unstable satrapies while US economic interest is too remote to infringe upon us, its a great setup.

All you do is operate with garbage slogans putput put into your soggy brain. "Poland is a lackey!". As if we'd even be in NATO if you weren't around to incentivise us.

> and yet ypu pretend to have some moral reasons for it. Absolutely pathetic.

Everything I argue comes from a position of pragmatism. YOU cry about not interfering while your shithole's being the most intrusive at the same time, routinely invading and destabilizing when others don't do what you want them to. Idiot.

>You don't know what that word even means, moron.
I know that you're just stating your own opinions from an imaginary duplicitous moral highground
>And its not whataboutism either when I explain exactly whats our stake in not having nordstream,
Yes it is. And you still haven't explained it.
>Who cares? You make that distinction but it doesn't inherently matter as it all interlocks.
Anyone that isnt a brainlet cares. Those things are incomparable.
>Nobody will invade Russia anyway because of MAD.
You've revealed your ignorance. First of all direct invasion isn't the only issue of concern. Second of all, MAD doesn't guarantee not being invaded, just provides a degree of safety against a nuclear attack. Those things are also completely different.
>All you do is operate with garbage slogans
That's literally all you've done with your >le russia is a malicious power
Regurgitated propaganda slogans.
>As if we'd even be in NATO if you weren't around to incentivise us.
Russia did nothing to incentivise you before the conflict in Georgia, and yet..
>YOU cry about not interfering while your shithole's being the most intrusive at the same time, routinely invading and destabilizing
Nope, I'm just trying to explain cause and effect to a literal retard.
You still haven't answered why Poland is interfering in German and Russian trade deals, pussy.

>I know that you're just stating your own opinions from an imaginary duplicitous moral highground
>Yes it is. And you still haven't explained it.

"Since before nordstream you had to eventually restart gas flow through Eastern Europe you weren't capable of completely fucking ukrops. After nordstream Poland's security will downgrade because Ukraine's position will fall further and they're our buffer"

This is me moralfagging and not explaining. lol the primary purpose of nordstream isn't economic, its strategic

>You've revealed your ignorance. First of all direct invasion isn't the only issue of concern.

Same goes both ways. You encroaching further West and recapturing Ukraine is undesirable to us.

>Those things are also completely different.

If you drag them into your Eurasian poverty zone and gain military access to our South-East border then its pretty much the same shit plus you'll also keep them poor forever, thus reducing trade.

>That's literally all you've done with your >le russia is a malicious power

Thats not a slogan its an observation, I dare you to find that formulation anywhere in mass media. You obstruct maritime commerce in Eastern coast of Poland at the mierzeja because you can, you staged gas shortages because you could, you invented bullshit pretexts to ban Polish transport companies and exports. You would never accommodate us, you'd obstruct to the end of the world if you could. A lot of countries leave room for some cooperation even if they overall have conflicting interests, Russia's too vulgar for that and wonders why everyone's antagonized.

>pussy

said the pussy that refuses to engage with what is already written and feigns ignornace 90% of his posts. Slimy maggot.

WTF I actually like Polen now?

The UK would help but Poles on here hate the UK because of Brexit lmao.

>History demonstrates that it only upsets the geopolitical balance in the region
I assume geopolitical balance means Russia?

>After nordstream Poland's security will downgrade because Ukraine's position will fall further and they're our buffer"
No logic there whatsoever.
>encroaching further West and recapturing Ukraine
We havent though
>If you drag them into your Eurasian poverty zone and gain military access to our South-East border then its pretty much the same shit plus you'll also keep them poor forever, thus reducing trade.
Jow is having a pipeline going to drag people into poverty? You're so full of shit that it's almost comical.
>Thats not a slogan its an observation, I dare you to find that formulation anywhere in mass media.
It's the opinion of a 9 year old that sees the world as black and white.
>find that formulation anywhere in the media
You just have to read between the lines.
>You obstruct maritime commerce in Eastern coast of Poland at the mierzeja because you can, you staged gas shortages because you could, you invented bullshit pretexts to ban Polish transport companies and exports.
Still waiting for those sources.
>You would never accommodate us, you'd obstruct to the end of the world if you could.
Complete bullshit. We welcome trade relations with Poland.
>lot of countries leave room for some cooperation even if they overall have conflicting interests, Russia's too vulgar for that and wonders why everyone's antagonized.
More butthurt opinionated bullshit.
>said the pussy that refuses to engage with what is already written and feigns ignornace 90% of his posts. Slimy maggot.
None of your posts actually carry any value or justify the way Poland is behaving. You're just pointing fingers in whataboutism and telling us your opinions about how evil Russia is. Strawman upon a strawman. It's like talking to a brick wall. I hope not all Poles are this brainwashed and antagonistic, despite their media propaganda and government trade lackey-ism.

To sabotage the EU.
Poland is the American agent in our midst.

>freeze ukrops to death
Ukraine buys Russian gas from Germany you dumbfuck lmao

Man it doesn't matter, at the end of the day Poland doesn't want stronger trade relations between Russia and Germany as it will undermine their current shugar-daddy's (USA) policy in Europe. Their every action is aimed at disrupting Nordstream-2 no matter what, the end justifies the means.
Chill bro, this polac is just a paid shill or a buthurt teenager with rudimentary knowledge of history and a lot of energy to spare, we have a lot of the same people here who jerk-off to Dugin and what-not.

>Poland is the American agent in our midst.
This. Remember, polacks were the first to send soldiers in favor of mutt-Iraqi war. I really dislike them, poles are like fucking vermin.

Alas, tis but a fate of small countries? look at Ukraine's shinanigans for example, or at the way Brits blakmailed EU for more that 2 yearswith their Brexit shit (thankfully, EU didn't give in yet and Britan will backpedal to EU 27 within next 6 months or so).

They did get a shitty deal for Russian gas especially when compared to the krauts. It's not surprising they're diversifying their sources.

only a fool heats with electricity, of course if you have money to waste, which is what you are clearly flaunting here

Good for them, but they should really stop shiting in our and Germany's proverbial porrige.

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