Remember when we used to be friends before you threw us in a military dictatorship you fat cunts

They're not, both were shit dick moves

brazil and mexico were both better off under fascist governments we created for them desu

they're not

Modern PRI was created by the guy who kicked your oil companies out of our nation, you really need to lay off the crack man

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They are not. But Latin America was fucked by USA and the USSR at the same time. USSR no longer exists, so that.

When did Mexico EVER have a fascist?

Our satellite states rarely had any of the pomp and circumstance Russia's satellite states did. As we did with Mexico in the 1920s, we simply had their leader killed and usually recognized a friend of the US ambassador as their leader. In Mexico's case, their leader was chosen based upon membership in a private club he met our ambassador in (the Klu Klux Klan) and he was also Mexico City's police chief so people already respected him, and he had control over Mexico's primary industrial site (Mexico City). We usually don't try much harder than that, in Cuba we were just going to kill all the communists then fly in a leader as soon as Fidel dropped dead.

Russia was different since Russia forced everyone to pretend there was an actual "revolution" so things like property had to be collectivized, ballots cast (and promptly burned) and free food given out while a leader was trained for 2-3 years in Moscow.

How was Latin America fucked by the USSR? Other than Cuba they had a pressence nowhere and the Cubans were legit better off during the cold war for their support.

Communist guerrillas. And Nicaragua.

we got border security in return, because back then your government would string up migrants rather than tolerate them

What the fuck are you talking about, dumb fucking cunt? Central American immigration didn't peak until years later. And you had so much of them jailed they ended up creating the MS13 in Los Angeles. MS13 is an American gang, unironically.

There's so much bullshit in a single post I don't even know where to start.

yeah and what did your government used to do to narcos? They were shot or strung up, until your country abolished the death penalty.

You see these 50 stars and 13 stripes? That's the price of freedom. My flag isn't a shit stained pizza box.

>ballots cast (and promptly burned)
They weren't burned lmao. They didn't have to. There was only ever 1 party to vote for.

How many coups d'etat have the Americans staged in LatAm since the commies went tits up?

That was American paranoia serving their interest in mantaining the banana republic regimes, the Soviets were not involved in that it was homegrown insurgents in Latin America.
youtube.com/watch?v=hl1uIcZfcIY

No, you got neutrality, Mexico was free to pursue pacifism in exchange of non alignemnt with american rivals. NAFTA was a foreign policy success precissely because you never got Mexico to be your ally during the cold war.

As for migrants Mexico took refugees in from every single one of the Lat Am nations you wrecked, we even gave harbor to some of their exiled leaders like Arbenz. Mexico hosted the Republican Spanish government and was the training ground for Castro's revolutionaries.

The migrant thing was simply we weren't a transit country back then, it was mostly Mexican migrants that you got and things didn't really get out of hand till you wrecked the world economy in the 70's

A grand total of 11 people were executed in Mexico under the death penalty during the first half of the XX century. The last one happened in 1961, and not to a drug dealer. Cartels became a problem in the late 80s, fuelled by the drug trade from Colombia, becoming the middle men, and rose to prominence in the 90s when Escobar was killed. And even then, they didn't become the behemoth they are today until our dumbfuck right wing president during the 2006-2012 period, decided to declare war on them, sending the army into the street. Carrying out themselves like death squads, and managing to triplicate our murder rate in the process. From 7 in 2007, to 21 in 2012.

Are you stupid or trolling?

Brazil needs Juche to succeed.

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It's a big list, they got started with Truman backing Somoza in Nicaragua and worked their way through the continent from there. The only two countries in Latin America which escaped unscathed were Mexico and Costa Rica. The worse of it was operation condor in South America.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor
I could literally name you a good ten dictators off the top of my head and that's nowhere near a complete list.

Absolutely based
I loved Pancho Pistolas as a kid, the based chad bvll of the group.

youtube.com/watch?v=EHIurv7AUnA

Nah, in the case of Mexico, the USSR wasn't involved, so Diaz Ordaz and Echeverria really were being paranoid fucks. But the USSR really was involved in the rest of Latin America. The cold war wasn't fought by a single country, you know? It required both sides to play the game, and unfortunately, the cold war was not cold at all in the region. Now, the US did manage to do hell of a lot more damage than the USSR simply because the US succeeded in installing their own dictatorships while the USSR couldn't in more places. And the thing about Cuba being better off during any time under Castro is arguable. Even Batista didn't manage to do so much damage (not because he didn't try, but because he wasn't in power for so long).

My bad, just re-read the question, thought that was total. Trump just fucked with Honduras abandoning a sort of truce we had in the region since the ouster of Pinochet but it's difficult to tell with strongmen like Bolsonaro. also Colombia was basically ran by them through much of the intervening period.

They were staging coups long before that. This is a very incomplete list of this mess, just to give you an idea.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Walker_(filibuster)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Wars
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala_syphilis_experiment
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere_Institute_for_Security_Cooperation#Graduates_of_the_School_of_the_Americas
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorship#North_and_Central_America
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvadoran_Civil_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemalan_Civil_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_American_crisis
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contras
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_drugs#U.S._operations_in_Honduras
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-13
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Honduran_coup_d'état

And this is only about Cental America

>Trump just fucked with Honduras
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Cuba had USSR support during the cold war, they were by no means wealthy or democratic but they became a highly educated society with full infrastructure/services from being worse off than Guatemala is today.

The Cubans got screwed by Russia abandoning them after its transition in the 90's and the regime going full retard dictatorship.

As for the Soviets elsewhere their official position was the continent should be allowed to develop an actual industrial base first (except for Mexico and Brazil it really hasn't yet) before the proletariat could attempt to seize the means of production, so basically they settled for funding some propaganda and keeping some base alive through Communist parties and that was it. Their closest to a pressence in the region was Mexico City as the KGB handled their operations inside the US from here. Che's Bolivian guerrilla was disowned by both Havana and Moscow as a fool's folly.

But hey, you're free to post proofs

Orlando Hernandez came to power in what was basically a US backed coup. In all fairness Latin America failed miserably to resolve the mess that was created with the Zelaya crisis when given the chance by Obama but that doesn't justify American shenanigans.

>this daily commie butthurt

I love it.

Oh yeah, I somehow forgot about this

theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/22/us-recognizes-re-election-of-honduras-president-despite-calls-for-a-new-vote

You love using proxies because you are a pussy

The USSR didn't have to completely support x or y in order to fund or train them.

cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/19820625.pdf

That was token support with no real impact on the region, you're reaching here.

As much token support as the US gives to rebels in the last years, which they usually don't fully support ideologically speaking, but do train and fund them. And I'm not justifying the right-wing dictatorships in any way shape or form, specially because they often used USSR activities in Latin America to execute everyone by accusing them of being communists, regardless if they were actual communists or not. But you can't deny their presence. G2 in Cuba had frictions with the KGB multiple times, but you wouldn't say Moscow wasn't involved in Cuba, now would you?

And G2 itself was involved in other places in Latin America as well.

If we're talking the cold war era that was real material, logistical, financial and diplomatic support with chile being the clearest cut and dry case but several other examples. It meant American field operatives such as the army rangers in Bolivia, what was the Soviet counterpart to any of that?

If you mean in the time since other than Vietnam tier "advisors" in Colombia they've been hands off except for Trump's likely unwitting intervention in Honduras (and the scary thing is who's behind that) they haven't intervened outside formal channels YET, there's certainly willingness and with idiots like Bolsonaro and Macri basically serving them their own countries in a silver platter it's not like the Americans need bother with intervention.