I fucking hate how spreadout America is

>plus insurance
>plus gas
>plus repairs and maintenance for a beat up 15 year old car
it adds up

I know it's inconvenient, but OP looks neat as fuck. And it's not too bad, the entire stretch of road seems to be like 3 kilometers long, 5 tops. I walk that far to work.

It only looks nice from the sky.

In reality it's all roads with trees covering the side. It feels like you're going nowhere

yeah, we should all live in one state

These only exist in east Germany.
Quality of commieblocks rapidly degrades on German-Polish border.

Like 2500-3000 a year tops and that's calculated off of me doing exactly that driving a 97 mercury 40 miles round trip to shekelstein 5 days a week, so literally half of it is gas.
>old piece of shit car you bought for less than 1000
>big repairs
umm sweaty you balance between actually repairing it or selling it or salvage. there's a salvage yard i used that will buy any car for $275 so long as it wasn't in a wreck. did that for a few years out of uni, the amount of money ive saved doing that despite going through 3 old ass cars in 5 years was remarkable.
issue is this lad is likely a neet

All modern proper real estate is commieblocks

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bought a 93 ford taurus in my last year of HS
>800 for the car
>210/mo insurance
>60/mo in gas
>had to pay 700 bucks in repairs to pass pollution standards because it's old as fuck
>still shit itself 8 months later
that's about 3600 for a car to last me 6 months, and when you're in a situation that you can't even afford a car in the first place like OP, that's a lot of money
im not against the idea of getting a beater, but it's not exactly a sound investment for someone hanging around the poverty line

>210 a month insurance
JUST

>210/mo insurance
what the fuck

>he thinks he has it bad

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the insurance co. probably knew i was driving the car into the ground, but also it's because i was a young driver (under 5yrs experience behind the wheel)
i dont have a car now because i live in a city, but if i reapplied for new insurance (now with ~6yrs driving experience, clean record) it would probably be ~130-150/mo I'd say

i love driving so it's nice

Idk about the differences between USA and Canada regarding insurance rates but that is by far the highest I've ever heard of. I doubt this is the norm in canada. He likely has a few factors in play, maybe accidents or traffic tickets or maybe a higher rate vehicle like an SUV and by all likelihood being less than 23 years old (which would be a minor factor)
He pays almost double what I pay and I have had numerous speeding tickets

it's the norm for the youngest of drivers, yes

Chill, you're only settled good for the last 500 years, you'll get yurop tier aesthetics and development in another 500

That's shitty. Wasn't nearly as bad here

I use my parent's car and we pay like 300 a year

a lot of young drivers here get "secondary insurance," where your insured on the same car as a parent, and it's only like 60 or 70/mo extra, but i wasn't able to unfortunately

That's just a brutal insurance rate must have been brutal lad. Well either way even without knowing OPs situation it is likely he isn't going to pay 2500 a year on insurance alone.

I just got an 02 Hyundai Accent on the road for less than $700 CAD, probably about $550 USD, pic related
>Car
$300
>Insurance down payment PLPD (yanks call it liability)
$100
>title transfer with tax
$192
>Inspection
$60
>Registration for 3mos
$30

It's cheaper for everything in the states inclyding gas and many states don't require any inspection

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Wrong. I live in a modern, renovated commieblock and it's alright. Still have no idea why you'd prefer to live one over your own house

noice, insurance must just be mad in ontario, i hear BC has nationalized car insurance

At one point in Canada (early 2000s) the insurance price on new drivers got so bad that the government had to step in and legislate against it. When my oldest brother started driving it was $425+ per month just for liability on a shitty car.
Getting caught without insurance was a $1,600 fine and automatic loss of license for either 6mos or 1 year.

Why don't we have trains? Btw for you Euros, this is the only way for us to take trains across the country.
youtu.be/5KaCY6VcKCM

Also I hate how are cities are designed, they never put restuarants or stores near living areas.

Shitty neighbors and more privacy. But upkeeping a house is a lot of work, commuting can be a bitch, and it's bit more difficult/expensive to get FTTH. Matter of preference.
>t. got both

Insurance used to be a nightmare but I'm 25 now so that drops it a lot, I have a clean driver's abstract, plus I tell them I'm married but my wife has no license so they lower it a bit for that too. They never check if you're actually married to anyone unless they need to be on the insurance too, hence telling them she has no license.

>American without a car
How is that even possible? I know several people that live or have lived in the US, and they are unanimous in saying that you simply don't LIVE in the USA without a car. The first thing one has to do when arriving in your country is to buy a car, they said.

God damn. I couldn't even imagine an insurance company gutting and exploiting a population like that. That would never happen here. Thankfully if it did the government would surely intervene and stop the exploitation. Heh... heh.

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Lots of people in big cities like NY don't have cars.

Be glad you still got vast stretches of nature

One of the only undeniable positive aspects of the USA. Too bad it isn't anything we deserve credit for. We are destroying the environment more than Germany. We are just very BIG.

It's not real nature.

It's just a nest of roads woven inbeween trees. And when you drive you see no scenery. Only trees.

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because euros more often than not have nationalized and subsidized passenger rail service, whereas canada and the us don't
it costs like 1000 bucks for me (solo) to travel from halifax to vancouver on passenger rail

m8 you have bavaria, after a certain ratio of nature to civilization, the nature tends to be over-saturated and boring
>t. love comfy canadian nature

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I thought cars were almost free in america?

Dude are you retarded the USA has immense stretches of genuine nature. Your east coast bullshit has no nature? Oh my im astonished.

north american car ownership is plagued by the dreaded 0 down financing, the bane of the desparate working class
it's one of the big reasons why laffs and burgers have such high debt
we may not be shit on by tariffs as much but cars

I'm sorry, I don't live in Yosemite, cuckifornian

*but cars are still stupid expensive, especially new ones

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what's ironic is that you made fun of him for living in california, one of the most urbanized states in the union while also having one of the greatest nature parks in the world

the US has some of the world's greatest nature, get over it

sorry you can't afford a fucking car or buspass or public education. there's no nature here! look at this part of virginia that is the only world ive ever known!

The public land system is better out west but the eastern U.S. isn't devoid of nature. Maine, the easternmost state, is also the most forested and the most rural. The Great Smoky Mountain National Park in Tennesse and North Carolina is the most visited in the US. The Appalachian Trail is still the most famous North Ametican hike. Everglades NP is one of the most important in the world.

I am very aware. Tell the other guy family

>"your east coast bullshit has no nature?..I'm astonished."

That wasn't you?

He's a metropolisfag. That's 95% of the population of the east coast.
>It's just a nest of roads woven inbeween trees. And when you drive you see no scenery. Only trees.
Dude hasn't seen nature in his life even though there is plenty in the east, not exactly as much on the coast considering the dense populations.

You can take AMTRAK across the entire US. Our country is just so fucking big that it takes multiple days, where you could just fly and be there in a few hours.

I live next to the county I’m your picture. What is wrong it’s seeing trees? I’d rather see trees than buildings...

If you don’t like having green space, move to an urban city like downtown DC then. Retard

I hate how spreadout my city is too. But the Germans bombed the middle class out of the centre, so they had to build new homes in neighboring municipalities after the war since those around the centre were either too expensive or too small/poor to house a family.

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Isn’t it better being able to breathe instead of living ontop of each other in a small but extremely crowded space?

If America were all white I wouldn't mind high density urban planning and extensive public transit.

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Downtown DC is filled with mentally ill homeless black people that randomly bother you and sometimes attack you

If you want high density urban living and extensive public transit move to NYC, DC, or Chicago.

>he goes to SE
Lmao. retard.

If you don’t want that, you stay near the national mall or NW

It's worth the trip but only if you can get a sleeper car. I took one from Boston to the four corners area and loved it.

The houses back then were actually a lot bigger than the Dutch houses that are built today. They just look small because of the large windows. The number of residents in the centre has dropped from 80.000 in 1940 to 15.000 today and those 15.000 people even live in small apartments instead of proper houses, so I can't say their situation got better.

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Did you even read his post

>A black hobo dude literally yelled at me and a bunch of tourists incomprehensibly just a week ago Infront of the national mall

I can only imagine what it's like around anacostia

that shit exists in every capital city tho

youtu.be/EuEDuye-JmE

haha faggit you keep teeling this shit story for the next 70 years straight? German Luftwaffe trew like 5 bombs

It was only banter.

No I heard this before, even before Jow Forums, Dutch complaining about how bad Rotterdam was bombed but they demolished the city centre themselves ten times since 1940

I get anxious when I travel to a place that isn't surrounded by trees

until you ride a European public transportation vehicle with 200 disgusting filthy trash in the mornings and afternoons. Especially in the afternoons when people are fucking sweaty since a third had to run tot he stop to not miss it.

There are big stretches of forests in the midwest though. You don't know what you're talking about

That fairfax guy is the same type of guy who has never gone hiking, and when you take him to Old Rag or Dragon's Tooth he looks out at the trees for 20 seconds and thinks it's boring. News flash for you, if that's your mentality then you are ill or depressed and living next to Lake Tahoe or the Rockys won't change anything.

I meant the german bombs were only banter

Yes he’s retarded. Frederick County is better than Fairfax and Arlington

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Dude wtf. You all are misinterpreting what i'm saying. You in particular don't realize the greentext in my post was quoting another user in the chain of replies that thought there is no nature here. I live in an extremely remote area

yeah it was like "it's gg, pls resign"

Get a bike

>France thinking can post how had someone has it
You're from France you won the lottery so you cant complain.

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>sucks to be a poor fag
>blames america for that
As a well-to-do foreigner, I love your country and I love all that huge vast space and the suburbs and the car culture. I think poor fags should be deported to Mexico which will make America even greater.

why are trains more expensive than airplanes?

I live next to the Rocky Mountain National park. Yes we do have a shit ton of genuine nature here. Our cunt has a lot of problems but you cant shit on our lack of nature being one of them.

Example?

I mean as a means of traveling. In Germany short distance flights and train can be the same price. In the USA you don't even serious long distance railway connection for passengers.

Just check Amtrak prices from somewhere in the Midwest to, say, Florida. Much more expensive and will take much longer. No demand

well that’s because there is such a small demand to travel by train across the country. It’ll take like 3-4 days to travel from NYC to LA by train. Our country is huge man. The flight is only 4-5 hours

because it's just a fun ride which goes 80 km/h in between freight trains

Then you can take the train

There isn't enough density for passenger trains to be as viable. Because of this they become more expensive. They only get significant usage between nearby big cities where flying doesnt make sense, or you don't want to drive / don't have a car. Also people afraid of flying.
Going by bus long distances is more affordable usually.

i live in a modern commieblock and its kickass

trains can accelerate real quick. They could go up and down your densely populated coasts. Train stations can be the heart of city. Airports can't

I would love to have trains be more viable between cities and more public transport within cities but everything is so spread out and massively scaled the assumption is you have your own transit option. Either you use a car or a family member picks you up at the airport or you rent a car after landing etc. If the money was there somebody would make it happen but it's just very different

there is a very busy train route between DC and Boston that connects with Philadelphia and NYC. That is practical.

DC to LA is not

Why would I if 90% of the German population will be Muslim within 70 years? They have nothing to do with the Nazi past. The people who did this don't exist anymore.

>mfw the germuslims jihad the netherlands in 30 years

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